Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama Fomenting A Constitutional Crisis: Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications
The Bulletin ^ | 12/1/08 | John Connolly

Posted on 12/01/2008 6:04:32 AM PST by pissant

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 421-440441-460461-480481-491 last
To: pissant

Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice - first in the primary elections and again in the general election. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party’s nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history. And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama’s birthplace were raised. The voters have made clear their view that Mr. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of President.

- Mel Martinez

and
That will be the official statement we will hear from everyone in Gobamint.

Now if Donald Young was indeed Obama’s lover and was murdered by someone working for obambi, now THAT will be a show stopper.

If the people who killed Young are now waiting for a chance to blackmale obambi and they don’t get paid, they might give Larry Sinclair some interesting info.


481 posted on 12/02/2008 8:55:59 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies]

To: reed13
... and then blessest thou thine holy hand grenade....
482 posted on 12/02/2008 9:34:15 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 462 | View Replies]

To: reed13

Thanks for the clarification. Yo are a Patriot!


483 posted on 12/02/2008 9:36:47 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 462 | View Replies]

To: Non-Sequitur

Sorry. Snot the law.


484 posted on 12/02/2008 9:37:41 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 444 | View Replies]

To: April Lexington
Sorry. Snot the law.

Snot the law??? Elaborate, please?

485 posted on 12/03/2008 3:55:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 484 | View Replies]

To: April Lexington

Hi Freepers,
I am just trying to spread the word about a fellow Freeper’s web site and the Freedom March Organization. Joe Thunder started the organization and the link is below. Perhaps you have heard the Joe Thunder program on Plains Radio Network. Please visit and read about the mission of the Freedom March Organization. Perhaps you might want to join and help in any way you can. I am helping by spreading the word about events that will take place. Right now we are focusing on showing support for Leo Donofrio, Cort Wrotnowski, and Alan Keyes in their efforts to bring the truth to light and save our Constitution.

Joe Thunder has organized a Freedom March for this coming Friday in Washington D.C. to bring attention to the important decision to by made by our honorable Supreme Court Justices. Please read about the details at the Freedom March link below. Perhaps you know folks who live in the D.C. area who would want to join other Freepers and Patriots to show support for Leo Donofrio and Cort Wrotnowski in hopes there cases will be heard.

Please spread the word to Freepers you know and anyone on your email list who you know would want to help.
Please post the link on your Free Republic state board to help spread the word. Thanks so much! seekthetruth

http://freedommarch.org/Home_Page.html


486 posted on 12/03/2008 7:21:24 AM PST by seekthetruth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 484 | View Replies]

To: April Lexington

I loooove that movie.

...five is right out...


487 posted on 12/03/2008 8:50:32 AM PST by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 482 | View Replies]

To: TomasUSMC
Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice - first in the primary elections and again in the general election. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party’s nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history. And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama’s birthplace were raised. The voters have made clear their view that Mr. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of President.

- Mel Martinez

He really said that?

You know, all along I have thought there's nothing to this birth certificate nonsense. But he said that? Why would he even need to make that statement, phrased that way, if a) there was no doubt about it, and b) the real documentation was made public for everyone to examine?

I know I am just restating what people here are saying already, but, wow.

488 posted on 12/03/2008 11:36:37 AM PST by mhx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 481 | View Replies]

To: TomasUSMC
Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice - first in the primary elections and again in the general election. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party’s nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history. And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama’s birthplace were raised. The voters have made clear their view that Mr. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of President.

O.K. WTH does this mean? Is he telling us that by voting for a candidate that means they are vetted because we believed enough in them to vote. So, we can vote for Hitler and he would then be vetted? I think this Martinez guy is foreign and thinks that vetted is voted! That is the only explanation!

grumble, grumble, getting so tired!
489 posted on 12/03/2008 3:51:53 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 481 | View Replies]

To: arrogantsob

Granted ... but if any of those mysterious campaign contributions were tracked back to a foreign nation, it would add a whole new perspective to things ...


490 posted on 12/04/2008 6:19:36 AM PST by so_real
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 343 | View Replies]

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:pivu_GB5bhQJ:www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm+Dr.+Edwin+Vieira+%2B+Obama&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN

By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
October 29, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship—or he must step down as the Democratic Party’s candidate for President of the United States—preferably before the election is held, and in any event before the Electoral College meets. Because, pursuant to the Constitution, only “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). And Obama clearly was not “a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution.”

Whether the evidence will show that Obama is, or is not, “a natural born Citizen” who has never renounced his American citizenship is an open question. The arguments on both sides are as yet speculative. But Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own” country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,” but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship. The vast majority of Americans could easily do so. Why will Obama not dispel the doubts about his eligibility—unless he can not?

Now that Obama’s citizenship has been seriously questioned, the burden of proof rests squarely on his shoulders. The “burden of establishing a delegation of power to the United States * * * is upon those making the claim.” Bute v. Illinois, 333 U.S. 640, 653 (1948). And if each of the General Government’s powers must be proven (not simply presumed) to exist, then every requirement that the Constitution sets for any individual’s exercise of those powers must also be proven (not simply presumed) to be fully satisfied before that individual may exercise any of those powers. The Constitution’s command that “[n]o Person except a natural born Citizen * * * shall be eligible to the Office of President” is an absolute prohibition against the exercise of each and every Presidential power by certain unqualified individuals. Actually (not simply presumptively or speculatively) being “a natural born Citizen” is the condition precedent sine qua non for avoiding this prohibition. Therefore, anyone who claims eligibility for “the Office of President” must, when credibly challenged, establish his qualifications in this regard with sufficient evidence.

In disposing of the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, which squarely presents the question of Obama’s true citizenship, the presiding judge complained that Berg “would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory.” This is exceptionally thin hogwash. A proper judicial inquiry into Obama’s eligibility for “the Office of President” will not deny his supporters a “right” to vote for him—rather, it will determine whether they have any such “right” at all. For, just as Obama’s “right” to stand for election to “the Office of President” is contingent upon his being “a natural born Citizen,” so too are the “rights” of his partisans to vote for him contingent upon whether he is even eligible for that “Office.” If Obama is ineligible, then no one can claim any “right” to vote for him. Indeed, in that case every American who does vote has a constitutional duty to vote against him.

The judge in Berg v. Obama dismissed the case, not because Obama has actually proven that he is eligible for “the Office of President,” but instead because, simply as a voter, Berg supposedly lacks “standing” to challenge Obama’s eligibility:


491 posted on 07/26/2009 1:02:41 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 421-440441-460461-480481-491 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson