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US Killing Its Own Constitution
Canada Free Press ^ | Monday, December 1, 2008 | Jayme Evans

Posted on 12/01/2008 6:31:33 AM PST by ckilmer

Of course, all of these constitutional issues pale in comparison with the controversy that continues to simmer around Barack Obama’s place of birth. Contrary to what his supporters claim, Obama has never produced his original birth certificate. What he has offered is a “Certificate of live Birth” which does not name the doctor or hospital who delivered him, only registers his birth. There are now lawsuits in over a half dozen states calling on election officials not to certify Obama’s electoral votes until the questions are resolved. Rather than produce the document and silence his critics for good, Obama continues to stonewall, refusing to unseal his birth certificate.

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1 posted on 12/01/2008 6:31:33 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Not to mention the fact that his sister, Maya Soetero-Ng also has a Hawaiian COLB (Certificate of Live Birth); yet they admit that she was in fact, born in Indonesia.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 6:34:44 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: ckilmer

If it is proven that Obama was not born in this country and thus is obliged to relinquish his claim on being elected President, expect there to be massive race riots rivaling of 1968.

The press, the media elites and the Demagogues have anointed the Chosen One and that’s that. Obama has already said explicitly that he regards the Constitution as an impediment more than anything else.

Now we know why.


3 posted on 12/01/2008 6:34:44 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: ckilmer
US Killing Its Own Constitution

My nomination for "Truest Headline of the Day"!

4 posted on 12/01/2008 6:35:47 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: walford

And, we’ve already shared massive amounts of high-level intelligence with him and his entourage.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 6:36:27 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: ckilmer

Kentucky is a red state with no shortage of conspiracy theorists and unusual politics, so it’s no surprise that what might be the first post-election court challenge to Barack Obama’s qualifications to be president comes from a Whitley County truck driver...

http://www.kentucky.com/181/story/611448.html


6 posted on 12/01/2008 6:36:52 AM PST by BlackjackPershing ("Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.")
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To: walford
If it is proven that Obama was not born in this country and thus is obliged to relinquish his claim on being elected President, expect there to be massive race riots rivaling of 1968.

I would venture to guess that they would surpass that by a mile. This Constitutional crisis wrought by Obama and the economic downturn could give this Civil War scope.

It's not like Obambi would be blameless - he WAS a Constitutional Law professor, and knows full well what his lying actions will wreak. Ignorance will not be an excuse.

He seems to know very well what he has done, his legal firm is trying to overturn this, his people are looking to change the Constitution... but it's too late.

He is going to make this a national crisis.

7 posted on 12/01/2008 6:38:17 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: walford
I don´t understand how he has gotten this far without the person who´s job it is to check this having checked it yet.

If it is proven that Obama was not born in this country and thus is obliged to relinquish his claim on being elected President, expect there to be massive race riots rivaling of 1968.

I am inclined to believe it´s too late. This should have been done before. We voted. This has the same feel to me as when people tried to claim Bush didn´t win after he did. Should have been done long ago. I don´t see the positive outweighing the negative at this point. Is the social unrest really worth it? Will McCain be worth it? Let´s rebuild our party, and let Obama have his run.

8 posted on 12/01/2008 6:39:48 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: ckilmer

9 posted on 12/01/2008 6:39:57 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: BlackjackPershing
Kentucky is a red state with no shortage of conspiracy theorists and unusual politics, so it’s no surprise that what might be the first post-election court challenge to Barack Obama’s qualifications to be president comes from a Whitley County truck driver...

So what?

If he's ineligible, he's ineligible. It doesn't matter who files the lawsuit. They're right.

What's the point of disparaging the person just because of how they earn a living?

10 posted on 12/01/2008 6:42:44 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ckilmer
In 1955 I had to produce a birth certificate for a security clearance from the US Govt. and have an FBI background check.

I was born in Boston, Mass. Both my parents were born here and were US citizens.

Nowhere on my birth certificate is a doctor, hospital or religion mentioned; or a line provided for that info.

I was surprised to see that the occupation of the parents was required on the birth certificate-also the race.

Birth certificates will vary from location and the period of time involved.- tom

11 posted on 12/01/2008 6:43:30 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: ckilmer

It’s almost like zero has left a cigarette butt at the scene of a crime and nobody is willing to test it for the DNA.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 6:44:02 AM PST by Walmartian
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To: Bon mots

You have to remember that “Constitutional Law” has very little to do with the actual Constitution,

and everything to do with “case law” (ie, distortions) concerning the Constitution.


13 posted on 12/01/2008 6:45:24 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: villagerjoel
I don´t see the positive outweighing the negative at this point. Is the social unrest really worth it? Will McCain be worth it? Let´s rebuild our party, and let Obama have his run.
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You don't see saving constitutional law as worth it at this late date???? Wow. Why do you think you will have a chance to “rebuild OUR party” if we have no constitution?

Nobody in America understands what it is like to life in a society ruled by men, rather than by law. Unbelievable!

14 posted on 12/01/2008 6:45:32 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ckilmer

BTTT


15 posted on 12/01/2008 6:45:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (I'm keeping CHRIST in Christmas--- heck, I'm even keeping the MASS in Christmas.)
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To: villagerjoel

You may be willing to put it to rest but even if there is one person that doesn’t agree with you (and there are many) this will be a huge issue later on. You think it would be bad now just wait. Every action that Obama takes will be challenged, not only by Americans but by other countries as well. It really is a constitutional crisis that needs to be resolved!


16 posted on 12/01/2008 6:47:37 AM PST by koraz
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To: ckilmer; All

Anybody else notice how the majority real reporting comes from out of the US these days?

Hmmm. . .

tehDeetz


17 posted on 12/01/2008 6:48:51 AM PST by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: Capt. Tom
1947 California
My parents names, race, origin of birth, religion, occupation also the hospital, attending physician as well as the time of birth and my weight.
18 posted on 12/01/2008 6:49:05 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: walford

I am not intimidated with threats of mass riots. Once we give in to that, we are no better than a country without law or order. We should expect our police force to use FORCE on any rioting crowds like that, post haste.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 6:50:16 AM PST by buffyt (FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt's New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression- It takes a village to pillage)
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To: ckilmer

I for one am immensely impressed by many/most of the articles I see from the CFP. I reco subscribing to the article feed.


20 posted on 12/01/2008 6:50:35 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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To: ckilmer; All
"US Killing Its Own Constitution"


21 posted on 12/01/2008 6:50:43 AM PST by musicman
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To: ckilmer

Constitution constitsmooshin. The media and the ‘Rats in charge will figure out a way to make this go away.


22 posted on 12/01/2008 6:52:11 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: Capt. Tom

That is very surprising, are you sure you got the original certificate? Many states do not give those out, they are usually on microfilm or some such medium, the “new” type that many states have gone to is a generic looking thing that gives little infomation other than name, DOB and a fancy looking seal. Personally, as a person interested in genealogy, I just hate them.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 6:52:15 AM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: ckilmer

I believe that Obama has copied a CertifiCATION of Live Birth on to his website, not a CertifiCATE of Live Birth. There’s a difference in Hawaii.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 6:52:33 AM PST by Need4Truth
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To: walford
Obama has already said explicitly that he regards the Constitution as an impediment more than anything else.

And how right he is. The Constitution was written to limit the powers of the federal government and Obama wants to change that.

25 posted on 12/01/2008 6:52:36 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: metmom

i agree


26 posted on 12/01/2008 6:57:26 AM PST by BlackjackPershing ("Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.")
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To: ckilmer
Obama should be held to the **same** standard as every other president. Every other president has had witnesses from family, friends, neighbors, cousins, doctors, ministers, etc. that could testify to their natural born status. These are the people who attended christenings, visited the baby and mother in the hospital, send meals over to the new family, saw the mom bring the baby home from the hospital, or were present at the actual birth.

So?...Where are Obama’s friends, neighbors, relatives, cousins, aunts, uncles, minister, doctor, nurses, etc?

Okay...So it is WEIRD that Obama has so little personal history, but being weird is not a disqualification from the presidency. If he cannot meet the same standard of other presidents then he should produce a valid birth certificate and other needed documents.

27 posted on 12/01/2008 6:58:53 AM PST by wintertime
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To: walford

I want the Constitution to be defended at all cost. Civil war, riots, whatever. If this question is not resolved clearly, the rule of law is ended in this nation.

That is probably what Obama and company is precipitating.


28 posted on 12/01/2008 6:59:31 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: buffyt

“I am not intimidated with threats of mass riots. Once we give in to that, we are no better than a country without law or order. We should expect our police force to use FORCE on any rioting crowds like that, post haste.”

I agree, but we must be candid about what to expect if an ‘inconvenient truth’ is revealed.

Also, don’t expect punishment for the perpetrators of racially motivated assaults upon white people. Remember the Rodney King riots. They had video of the guys who pulled [and beat half-dead] the white driver from a truck get away with it because they were deemed not responsible for their ‘justifiable’ rage at the White Devil.

I really wish the Democrats had vetted Obama more thoroughly during the nomination process. That’s when this should have been done, not now.


29 posted on 12/01/2008 7:00:33 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: svcw

My little footprint is on the back of mine.


30 posted on 12/01/2008 7:00:46 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: ckilmer

bump


31 posted on 12/01/2008 7:02:03 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Bon mots

“It’s not like Obambi would be blameless - he WAS a Constitutional Law professor....”

Please stop spreading this myth. Obama was NOT a Constitutional Law professor: He was a law LECTURER. There is a world of difference between a professor and a lecturer.


32 posted on 12/01/2008 7:02:50 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: walford

Bring on the riots.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 7:03:15 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: villagerjoel
I don´t understand how he has gotten this far without the person who´s job it is to check this having checked it yet.
Hmmm....

Seems to me, on an issue this big, that person would be President Bush.

He did take an oath to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States", didn't he? Twice, in fact.

But that oath seems to have been superseded by the oath he takes daily in the mirror while shaving: "I promise to do everything I can to make sure liberals all like me after I retire."

How else can you explain his dereliction of duty?

The evidence is not clear, you say. How can he jump the gun and get Justice involved in this, you say.

Well, what about the issue of massive amounts of "internet" donations coming to the Obama campaign from overseas?

Where was the Protector and Defender of the US Constitution on that issue?

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who will liberals love best of all?

34 posted on 12/01/2008 7:03:37 AM PST by samtheman
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To: walford
"If it is proven that Obama was not born in this country and thus is obliged to relinquish his claim on being elected President, expect there to be massive race riots rivaling of 1968."

I need a portable generator and ammunition just in case. But I wonder, should that happen, who would be liable? Who would be responsible for paying for the property damage and possible loss of life?

35 posted on 12/01/2008 7:03:39 AM PST by GBA
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To: anniegetyourgun
And, we’ve already shared massive amounts of high-level intelligence with him and his entourage.

If he is not qualified to serve, I would think he is guilty of treason, among other things, and could be incarcerated.

36 posted on 12/01/2008 7:06:51 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: villagerjoel

“Is the social unrest really worth it?”

You ARE kidding, right?


37 posted on 12/01/2008 7:07:49 AM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: GBA

God help us.


38 posted on 12/01/2008 7:08:06 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: ckilmer

RE “There are now lawsuits in over a half dozen states calling on election officials not to certify Obama’s electoral votes until the questions are resolved”

These are probably states that we lost governorships in 2006 thanks to GWB. Since 2000 democrats have been working on picking up state’s attorney generals for the purpose of election decisions. So like the Supreme court this is another dead end.


39 posted on 12/01/2008 7:08:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA, wait til 09")
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To: WayneS
My nomination for "Truest Headline of the Day"!

Trouble is, the Constitution was dead long before Obammy ever hit the scene. Politicians and Judges regularly ignore the Constitution when it suits them and have for nearly 160 years......

40 posted on 12/01/2008 7:09:47 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: walford

“I agree, but we must be candid about what to expect if an ‘inconvenient truth’ is revealed.”

You ARE kidding, right?


41 posted on 12/01/2008 7:10:29 AM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: villagerjoel
"I don´t understand how he has gotten this far without the person who´s job it is to check this having checked it yet."

Uh...yeah. That's what all this is about villagejoe, obviously nobody checked. Where have you been?


"If it is proven that Obama was not born in this country and thus is obliged to relinquish his claim on being elected President, expect there to be massive race riots rivaling of 1968."

Again, you rival the powers of Captian Obvious. Which law would someone have to break, and how serious would it be before you would think it is justifiable to stand up for the United States Constitutional...are or we all just going to do a "Bernard Shaw" and hide under a table?


"I am inclined to believe it´s too late. This should have been done before. We voted. This has the same feel to me as when people tried to claim Bush didn´t win after he did."

You're right, it's the "same feel". Democrats broke the law in 2000 trying to cheat on the elections, and democrats are breaking the law if they let obama assume the Presidency without getting proof he is a natural born citizen. It's all about democrats breaking laws...even the 2008 election is in question because of that same reason.


"Should have been done long ago."

Duhh...yes. Again, that is the point of the inquiries and lawsuits that are emerging daily.


"I don´t see the positive outweighing the negative at this point."

So, the total violation to the Constitution of possibly having a foreign born, marxist becoming our President is not negative to you? If we excuse him, we've got to let Chavez or Putin run next time. Don't you get it?


"Is the social unrest really worth it?"

Yes, it will, and I'll tell you why. If we back down and let obama break the law because we're afriad of "social unrest", then we have just become the great american chickens. I'm starting to suspect that you are already one.


"Will McCain be worth it?"

McCain will not take over if they find obama inelligible...find a new scare tactic.


"Let´s rebuild our party, and let Obama have his run."

I knew the last one would make be totally puke, and it did. "Let Obama have his run."? Are you one of those libs who thinks it's "his turn"? BArf again.

It's very obvious from your post that you stand to the center left; roll over and give in...what kind of talk is that? Let widdle obammy have his widdle wun?
42 posted on 12/01/2008 7:11:05 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of 0bamanation.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
If he is not qualified to serve, I would think he is guilty of treason, among other things, and could be incarcerated.

Incapacitated, even.

43 posted on 12/01/2008 7:12:35 AM PST by Misterioso ( "Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.")
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To: Thermalseeker

My own “starting point” for the death of the Constitution was John Adams’ signing of the “Alien and Sedition Acts” (June/July 1798).

However, I think what Mr. Obeyme has in mind for us will make us yearn for those days.


44 posted on 12/01/2008 7:14:35 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS
It should say.”U.S. government elitists killing the Constitution”.
45 posted on 12/01/2008 7:15:43 AM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: jessduntno

No, I’m not kidding. If Obama is proven to have been ineligible to be President, expect race riots — perhaps even a civil war.

We were close to degenerating into mob rule in 2000, remember?

The Courts will be more than reluctant to take this up and will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to make a Constitutional determination on this.

But if the evidence is clear, they will have no choice and we will have to be prepared for what comes next.


46 posted on 12/01/2008 7:15:49 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: P8riot

I agree. Help us to get to the truth, have that truth revealed and then help us survive the aftermath and rebuild. In the mean time: pray, stock up, repeat as necessary.


47 posted on 12/01/2008 7:15:55 AM PST by GBA
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To: FrankR
McCain will not take over if they find obama inelligible...

He might. It certainly wouldn't automatically go to Biden or anything crazy like that.

48 posted on 12/01/2008 7:17:20 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: BlackjackPershing

A Kentucky truck driver?? Oh please! He obviously has no STANDING whatever, being just a simple American citizen. I mean, who does he think he is...a community organizer??!!


49 posted on 12/01/2008 7:18:21 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: walford

“No, I’m not kidding. If Obama is proven to have been ineligible to be President, expect race riots — perhaps even a civil war...But if the evidence is clear, they will have no choice and we will have to be prepared for what comes next.”

Americans are always ready to take on this kind of threat, regardless of what the media might have us believe. And it IS a threat...and we WILL prevail...and the cost be damned.


50 posted on 12/01/2008 7:19:31 AM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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