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Smoke Bomb Goes Off in Phoenix Hotel - Weapons Found
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/11/30/smoke-bomb-goes-off-in-hilton-hotel-weapons-found-phoenix/ ^ | 11/30/08

Posted on 12/01/2008 7:49:39 AM PST by Sammy67

This is an incident report and there is no information indicating that it is terrorism related. Additional details will be provided as they become available.

Guests were evacuated Sunday night when a smoke bomb went off on the fourth floor of the Hilton Garden Inn, 1940 W. Pinnacle Peak Road in northwest Phoenix.

Officials found other weapons in the room where

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crime; hilton; homelandsecurity; hotel; phoenixarizonia; police; weapons; wot
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1 posted on 12/01/2008 7:49:40 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

OTHER weapons?

Are smoke-bombs considered weapons?


2 posted on 12/01/2008 7:53:11 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Sammy67
Guests were evacuated Sunday night when a smoke bomb went off

This could have been me as a kid. I was a lab assistant for a chemistry class and had access to all the chemicals. Of course, I liked to experiment.....

It's amazing I am still alive.

3 posted on 12/01/2008 7:54:31 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Fourth floor room in an upscale business hotel, is an odd place to be doing chemistry experiments.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 7:57:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Sammy67

Could be test...Maybe...or just Y2Kapocalypticnukewinter people wanting to stay someplace with hot water and room service.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 7:58:01 AM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: mlocher

The article said guns and bullets were also found in the room.. seems officials are quick to say that it was not terror related...this always is the case..


6 posted on 12/01/2008 7:58:46 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: mlocher

I once caused my High School to be evacuated. VERY hot sulfur in the heating/ventilation system causes unpleasant fumes.

I was also once responsible for the evacuation of an entire dormitory at Virginia Tech. The lighting/detonation of a single string of 1000 lady-finger fire crackers in a dorm room makes an ENORMOUS amount of smoke... certainly MORE than enough to set off smoke detectors.

This was in the days before “blind panic” became the emotion of the day, though.


7 posted on 12/01/2008 8:00:34 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: JoanneSD

Well, “they” would find “guns and bullets” in ANY hotel/motel room I am staying in, IF they searched it.

That DOESN’T make me a terrorist.

PS - I’m not so much in to smoke bombs now; but back in the day...


8 posted on 12/01/2008 8:02:50 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

You and I could have been best friends!


9 posted on 12/01/2008 8:07:03 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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D sized rocket engines down a dorm hallway have the same effect.

*Note that the fire doors at the end do not make a very good backstop.

10 posted on 12/01/2008 8:07:58 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: JoanneSD
The article said guns and bullets were also found in the room.. seems officials are quick to say that it was not terror related...this always is the case..

I hear you!Not enough info in the article to draw any conclusions. People have a legitimate right to have guns and ammo in their hotel rooms. But we also know that our officials will say just about anything to keep the peace and faith in our system.

11 posted on 12/01/2008 8:09:17 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: WayneS
I once caused my High School to be evacuated.

LOL...I set off the fire sprinklers, flooded the whole bottom floor ;^)

12 posted on 12/01/2008 8:12:15 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (When homo's can procreate - then they can get married)
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To: Sammy67

This hotel is not far from where those Muslims were caught a week or two ago firing guns.


13 posted on 12/01/2008 8:13:47 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: mlocher

It sounds like it.

Even though my “exlosion-making” is less frequent than it used to be, I still succumb to the “old ways” now and again.

On Thanksgiving day I amazed and impressed my 7-year old son when, in less than five minutes, I constructed a fully operational “cannon” using only a few empty green bean cans, a can opener and some duct tape. With a little naptha-based lighter fluid and one of his foam rubber balls, we were able to make quite a racket.

Repeated loud “booms” echoing through the trees next to our house provided fine entertainment as we waited for the turkey to finish cooking.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 8:13:54 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: mlocher
This could have been me as a kid. I was a lab assistant for a chemistry class and had access to all the chemicals. Of course, I liked to experiment.....

It's amazing I am still alive.


We are kindred spirits.

60% confectioners sugar, 40% salt peter. Blend well with Vaseline until sticky. A loosely filled Campbell's soup can with several 1/8" holes will make enough smoke to hide a battle ship.

But the principle knew it was me. ;-)
15 posted on 12/01/2008 8:14:43 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: WayneS
On Thanksgiving day I amazed and impressed my 7-year old son when, in less than five minutes, I constructed a fully operational “cannon” using only a few empty green bean cans, a can opener and some duct tape. With a little naptha-based lighter fluid and one of his foam rubber balls, we were able to make quite a racket.

You are bring tears to my eyes! My brother and I used to make these cannons and shoot tennis balls at each other. Smashing up model cars was pretty fun too!

16 posted on 12/01/2008 8:17:06 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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This is always the case?

Prior to 9/11 there was a very active violent criminal element here.....They didn’t go away....

The bulk of crime isn’t terrorist activity.....

That stated, the authorities (especially right after 9/11) were way to quick to state (even before facts were in) that the cause was not terrorist related.

But to make a blanket statement like yours or to see a terrorist under every bed is just as irresponsible as the authorities after 9/11.


17 posted on 12/01/2008 8:18:04 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Islander7
But the principle knew it was me. ;-)

Those of us with a reputation!

I occasionally made what we called contact explosives that were similar to large caps. If I recall, we would put solid iodine in a filter paper and then pour amonia in it. The wet iodine on the filter paper would be torn up into small pieces and left to dry. The next day we would litter them in the halls at school. They went off each time someone stepped on them.

Earlier I said it was amazing I was still alive. No, I never came that close to killing myself with chemicals. However, the class bullies and football players did not always like my tricks.

18 posted on 12/01/2008 8:21:12 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Deaf Smith

I actually used to glued small balsa-wood fins directly to the engine to try to get some modicum of stability... with mixed results.

And I probably shouldn’t even tell about the “war-head” I once launched from Mom and Dad’s back-yard around dusk. With a hollow plastic nose cone filled with home-made gunpowder and glued to the rocket body, the “parachute ejection” charge on the rocket engine served as the ignition system. It didn’t go very high because of the weight of the powder but golly-gee what a BOOM and what a FLASH. That one brought out about 8 police cars and a helicopter. They even went door-to-door asking people about it. Fortunately, Mom’s response was: “What explosion?”.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 8:21:49 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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I once caused my High School to be evacuated. VERY hot sulfur in the heating/ventilation system causes unpleasant fumes.

I once caused my High School to be evacuated. Dead coyote placed under a trash barrel next to the air conditioning intake causes unpleasant fumes.

AND, I once made a remark in a HS chemistry class which the self-proclaimed school genius took seriously. He blew up the lab and we both had to write a 5,000 word essay of fire prevention.

Those were the days.

20 posted on 12/01/2008 8:25:52 AM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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