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Pentagon to Detail Troops to Bolster Domestic Security
Washington Post ^ | Monday, December 1, 2008 | Spencer S. Hsu and Ann Scott Tyson

Posted on 12/01/2008 7:52:18 AM PST by Historix

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1 posted on 12/01/2008 7:52:18 AM PST by Historix
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“But the Bush administration and some in Congress have pushed for a heightened homeland military role since the middle of this decade, saying the greatest domestic threat is terrorists exploiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.”

-It’s a good thing Bush sealed the border so we don’t have to worry about it as much.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 7:53:54 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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The Posse Commitatus Act needs revising, but it does give me pause having thousands of military assuming national law enforcement duties under the next President.


3 posted on 12/01/2008 7:56:06 AM PST by AU72
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Ya, rediculous, let’s don’t seal the border or profile airline passengers, instead, let’s gear up from the eventual attack that we are going to just let happen. The USA doesn’t deserve to exist any longer frankly, it has forfeighted it’s inheritance ...


4 posted on 12/01/2008 7:56:07 AM PST by Scythian
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
I am waiting for the leftist who bitched about the Patriot act to start complaining about this!
5 posted on 12/01/2008 7:56:38 AM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013 Obama's last day - If we make it)
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Will these troops soon be tranferred and issued new uniforms with National Civilian Security Force markings...something like a pair of lightning bolts, perhaps?


6 posted on 12/01/2008 7:57:08 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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They’re preparing for the coming revolution. They’ll send southern rural troops against the inner cities, and urban troops against the southern suburbs and rural areas.

< /tin foil hat >


7 posted on 12/01/2008 7:57:23 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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I am waiting for the leftist who bitched about the Patriot act to start complaining about this!

Are those the same ones who complained that President Bush allowed (or caused) New Orleans to flood because he didn't send in troops within minutes of Katrina's landfall?

8 posted on 12/01/2008 7:59:10 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Historix

This is but one more example of how government puts bandaids on a problem instead of fixing the problem.

Oh well, I guess it will make the illegal Mexicans feel right at home. For decades the Mexicans have had their Federales set up roadblocks to check out papers held by drivers.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 8:00:15 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

This is very bad and runs contrary to our American traditiosns of civilian control. This is another dangerous Bush legacy for Obama.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 8:08:08 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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"...but it does give me pause having thousands of military assuming national law enforcement duties..."

Precisely. Combat and law enforcement are two entirely different undertakings. Anyone who equates the two as being even remotely similar has no business being involved in either one. Mixing the two has proven a disaster everywhere it's been tried. Who's going to call the shots, and under what conditions? What's the tripwire for suspension of the Constitution's 10th amendment, and by what mechanism will it be restored?
11 posted on 12/01/2008 8:08:43 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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The “leftists” won’t complain about this because they now control the troops! It is the conservatives who supported this kind of thing that will have reason to complain. Unfortunately, many of them won’t have a leg to stand on in terms of principle.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 8:09:41 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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I believe under Posse Comitatus, the military is allowed to be used for training civilian law enforcement and they are allowed to ‘loan’ their equipment, etc. But, the military is not supposed to take an active role in LE unless LE is unable to do so. And we are clearly not in that situation.

This whole thing concerns me because I see it starting off as a training session, then tip toe’ing over the line, then revising laws to ignore the purpose of Posse Comitatus.

It sounds like this is where BO’s Domestic Civilian Security Force starts.


13 posted on 12/01/2008 8:12:55 AM PST by HollyB
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I do not agree with this at all..

Despite the call to reform the Act. Military troops are not the right way to go within the borders. Basically the troops are trained to defend the country though combat power.. not domestic duties outside of the gates of the installations.

But.. this is not the only thing happening in the military that seems crazy since I went and retired.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 8:13:17 AM PST by Kitanis
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To: Historix

Best way to start a fight is to get right up in someones face.
My Government is getting in my face.


15 posted on 12/01/2008 8:14:42 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Kitanis

It would seem President Bush gave Obama all of the tools he will need, it hardly seems by chance.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 8:15:39 AM PST by Scythian
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Yes, BO has Bush and other Republicans to thank for it! Maybe, conservatives will start being suspicious of the federal police state again, as they were under Clinton. We can only hope they will continue to remain so even if a Republican comes back to power.


17 posted on 12/01/2008 8:17:00 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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I find it very strange too that Bush would do this. I would have expected BO to have implemented this allowing him to train his civlian force. This is getting stranger by the day. Where’s my tinfoil?


18 posted on 12/01/2008 8:17:48 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Historix

We have the national guard for that - I don’t buy the premise for this “need”.

We get all this security, now I wonder how much liberty its going to cast us.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 8:20:30 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
-It’s a good thing Bush sealed the border so we don’t have to worry about it as much.

Thank God for that! If Bush hadn't worked so hard to secure the border since 9/11, I'd be really worried about terrorists sneaking something across! After all, before Bush sealed the border, the druggies were pushing ton after ton after ton of drugs across the border. Imagine what dedicated terrorists could smuggle across! Since then, they haven't been able to get any inside the country, right??

It's also a good thing that Bush and the other Republicans pushed the PATRIOT ACT through, etc., because after all, Democrats would never get control of the White House and Congress, and then abuse those powers....
20 posted on 12/01/2008 8:22:51 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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