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It's official: U.S. in a recession since December 2007
CNNMoney.com ^
| December 1, 2008
Posted on 12/01/2008 9:41:46 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) is a private, nonprofit research organization dedicated to studying the science and empirics of economics, especially the American economy. It is "committed to undertaking and disseminating unbiased economic research among public policymakers, business professionals, and the academic community." It publishes NBER Working Papers and books. The NBER is located in Cambridge, Massachusetts with branch offices in Palo Alto, California, and New York City."
California, Massachusetts, New York City...all blue states.
And it's "official"?
Now, a blue, liberal state company wouldn't have any vested interest in making it look like a recession started a year ago, just to make Bush the scapegoat for obama...would they?
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:54:48 AM PST
by
FrankR
(“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of 0bamanation.)
To: 1rudeboy
Actually, we've been in a recession since 1961.1961 B.C.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:54:58 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
To: syl799
It will probably end when Obama becomes president in JanuaryDo not think for a second that the UberRich, who are largely Democrats, will not ensure this.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:56:08 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
To: Perdogg
Yes that’s right. I was posting something else first, but was going to call attention to that next. You are correct.
What we have here is the typical “setup” typical of Democrats to lay the groundwork for the upcoming Miracle.
This time though I believe the “miracle” is going to be if they can successfully pull off their scam.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:56:41 AM PST
by
rockinqsranch
(Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
To: madison10
I knew that, actually think it started November 2007.I postulate that our current recession started in February of 2016, and will finally be over in 1998.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:57:13 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:58:10 AM PST
by
Deo volente
(On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Let the Obama Recovery begin. LOL
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:58:46 AM PST
by
Mase
(Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Will Hussein save us...or sauce us?
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:59:07 AM PST
by
Dallas59
(Not My President)
To: Deo volente
I heard it was gonna cost $1 quadrillion. We should sell all those derivatives to raise the money.
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:00:03 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Somehow people must be free I hope the day comes soon won't you please come to Chicago)
To: Lazamataz
I knew that, actually think it started November 2007.I postulate that our current recession started in February of 2016, and will finally be over in 1998.
Okayyyy. So you believe in time travel? ;)
To: Toddsterpatriot
The NBER is a private group of leading economists charged with dating the start and end of economic downturns Exactly who "charged" them with this task and why did they choose to use an unconventional definition?
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The Kidd Institute is a rival private group of leading experts, also charged with dating the start and end of economic downturns.
Mr. Kidd, the founder of the Institute, disputes the arbitrary choice of the benchmark used by NBER and believes that it is politically motivated. "NBER clearly believes that Obama is not going to pull the economy out of its doldrums and that he will need reasons to blame the current president," said Mr. Kidd. "Establishing a date that was deep within the Bush presidency adds credibility to the blame game. However, the most commonly accepted definition of a recession, that is one that has two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, shows that the recession will begin during the pending Obama administration."
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:04:40 AM PST
by
kidd
(Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
To: madison10
Okayyyy. So you believe in time travel? ;) Dude. Since 2027, I've been travelling in time.
I was with the 132nd under Perry, from '21 to '27.
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:05:29 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
To: hugorand
Exactly. That’s why over the last several months despite gloom and doom media at least some pundits were saying it has not met the criteria for recession. I firmly believe this is specifically designed to help Obama by saying how bad things are and for how long they have been bad.
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:09:15 AM PST
by
visualops
(portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
To: Lazamataz
Dad?
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:09:54 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Somehow people must be free I hope the day comes soon won't you please come to Chicago)
To: Toddsterpatriot
For a recession there has been few layoffs other than the obvious financial sector, some prices have increased but others have dropped, and spending still seems to be as heavy as any year. This seems like a fairly light recession.
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:11:35 AM PST
by
CodeToad
To: madison10
More of a crisis of confidence in the ‘New Direction’ starting Jan 2007.
The crisis of confidence really started when Charlie Rangel promoted his Mother of All Tax Hikes in August 2007. You knew this economy was going down the tubes when ‘Progressives’ promoted punishing the producers.
Investors played amongst the margins but when the ‘Enronization’ of the financial system was exposed and the culprits in DC colaborated in this disaster to leverage power, the real confidence evaporated. As in the last Great Depression, it’ll take about a generation before investors have faith in the system.
Capital is engaged in flight to safety.
To: Toddsterpatriot
LOL!
As if CNN would know.
To: Toddsterpatriot
This group has no official position and so this announcement carries no weight... show me two consecutive quarters of negative growth and I will agree. We are likely into a recession now, but we cannot let tried and true measurements be replaced by “feelings”.
LLS
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:16:38 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims! I am an UMA-unity my a$$)
To: Toddsterpatriot
U.S. GDP grew every year of President George W. Bush's Presidency including 2001 when he had to deal with an inherited recession and 911. When 2008 is complete it will also show a growth in annual GDP yet the Propaganda Wing of the DNC (mainstream media) will never acknowledge an inconvenient truth.
To: Toddsterpatriot
Who is Willie Green? Can he predict 24 of the last 3 recessions like the MSM?
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posted on
12/01/2008 10:19:41 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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