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Scientists Discuss Replicating Volcano’s Effect to Cool Climate
CNS News ^ | December 1, 2008 | Sara Burrows

Posted on 12/01/2008 1:49:00 PM PST by Zakeet

Scientists discussed the merits and demerits of pumping sulfur into the Earth’s atmosphere as a temporary “fix” to global warming at a forum hosted in Washington, D.C., on Nov. 21 by the American Meteorological Society (AMS).

The idea is to artificially re-create the effects of volcanic eruptions to temporarily cool the planet.

In 2006, Nobel Prize-winning chemist Paul Crutzen and National Center for Atmospheric Research Senior Scientist Tom Wigley suggested that “geo-engineering” might be used as a quick, but temporary, remedy for global warming. This idea was one of the issues discussed at the AMS forum.

“In particular, Crutzen and Wigley focused on blocking incoming solar radiation, an idea that has generated much interest in the press and the scientific community,” the AMS explained in a posting on the forum on its Web site. “Nature offers an example of how to do this. Volcanic eruptions cool the climate for up to a couple of years by injecting precursors to sulfate aerosol particles into the stratosphere, which has the effect of temporarily blocking incoming sunlight.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ecology; environment; fud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; scaretactics; volcano
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Triggering an Ice Age in order to halt Global Warming ... another low from the incredibly stupid Looney Left.

1 posted on 12/01/2008 1:49:01 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I heard that a couple of scientists actually want to drill through the earth’s mantle..............


2 posted on 12/01/2008 1:50:43 PM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Zakeet

May I suggest a series of hydrogen bombs buried deeper and deeper under Yellowstone, to help get sulfur in a hurry? :)


3 posted on 12/01/2008 1:50:46 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Zakeet; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 12/01/2008 1:51:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Zakeet
The idea is to artificially re-create the effects of volcanic eruptions to temporarily cool the planet.

Great idea! What country should we start with?


5 posted on 12/01/2008 1:52:11 PM PST by Loud Mime (We're not hateful. We respect traditional marriage - which our opponents HATE)
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To: Zakeet

They just need a giant spaceship full of water...go up to the sun and douse part of it. If it’s too hot to get close enough, wait until night.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 1:52:15 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Tax Government
May I also suggest viewing the movie "Total Recall"?

The final scenes should be a big help.

7 posted on 12/01/2008 1:52:44 PM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: Zakeet

My co-worker told me earlier that snow had been reported in a nearby town. This is upstate SC. It never snows this time of year. You might see some in January or February, but usually rain or ice, as we are south of the snow line.
And these fracking morons want to block out the sun.
Lord, help us.


8 posted on 12/01/2008 1:53:37 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Will do; thank you.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 1:53:51 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Zakeet

I wonder if these morons thought through to what would occur on the earth if they DID get it to cool off...

mass starvation, etc.

But, then again, most of these folks are simply anti-human anyway.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:35 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Zakeet

There are numerous technical fixes to alleged causes of global warming, but such speculators miss the point.

Environmentalists are not really concerned with the environment, they are concerned with controlling the lives of others.

Simple solutions simply complicate their plans to control the global economy and enrich themselves in the process.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:46 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Zakeet

It’s snowing in Georgia right now. The Earth doesn’t need someone trying to turn the thermostat lower.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:47 PM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: Zakeet
The earth has been cooling for a decade now. What do they want? Ice Age Now!?

Actually I know the answere here. The "scientists" want billions of dollars of grants and the politicians want unlimited power and unlmited opportunities for corruption.

13 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:51 PM PST by arthurus (Old Age beat itself with its ownguile and lack of enthusiasm.)
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To: Zakeet

If these scientists are the best and brightest we can offer, we’re in deep, deep doo-doo.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:54 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: Zakeet
In 2006, Nobel Prize-winning chemist Paul Crutzen and National Center for Atmospheric Research Senior Scientist Tom Wigley suggested that “geo-engineering” might be used as a quick, but temporary, remedy for global warming

The Nobel prize, didn't they give that to Al Gore for a slide show presentation.....

Apparently, science is not what it used to be.....

15 posted on 12/01/2008 1:55:01 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Red Badger

If they weren’t so frighteningly serious it would be very funny.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 1:55:25 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Loud Mime

How about Germany?

He [Crutzen] currently works at the Department of Atmospheric Chemistry at the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry,[2] in Mainz, Germany


17 posted on 12/01/2008 1:55:43 PM PST by DManA
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To: Zakeet
The AMS, however, indicated that it is worried that geo-engineering of this type has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

No, really? Blocking the sun for a few years has the potential to create problems? Science!

18 posted on 12/01/2008 1:56:24 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Tax Government
How about we gather up all the enviro-nuts, dump them in the volcano, followed by some hydrogen bombs?
It's been done before, so I know it works.
19 posted on 12/01/2008 1:57:20 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Zakeet
generated much interest in the press

Yeah, that's who I always turn to for the best ideas in science //rolls eyes//
20 posted on 12/01/2008 1:57:24 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: arthurus
The midwest has just been pounded with another early snowstorm, and it's been colder than normal for two freaking years.

These people need to look out the window before they say such stoopid things about "warming".

21 posted on 12/01/2008 1:57:50 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: arthurus
The midwest has just been pounded with another early snowstorm, and it's been colder than normal for two freaking years.

These people need to look out the window before they say such stoopid things about "warming".

22 posted on 12/01/2008 1:57:51 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Zakeet

Leave the climate alone. These ideas to “fix” global warming by putting particulates into the atmosphere will cause an ice age.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 1:59:44 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Zakeet
Volcanism produces enough g-d damn civilization-destroying ice ages in earth's history.

Sick, sick demented liberals.

The world 20,000 years ago, which is what this lunatics seek to recreate:


24 posted on 12/01/2008 2:00:19 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Zakeet
In other news, arctic ice coverage Nov 30, 1980 compared to Nov 30, 2008.....


25 posted on 12/01/2008 2:00:23 PM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Zakeet

These people will not stop until they actually kill off humanity.

12/1/2008 You read it here first.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 2:05:53 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: gorush

“...They just need a giant spaceship full of water...go up to the sun and douse part of it. If it’s too hot to get close enough, wait until night...”

FReepers are such brilliant thinkers! I’m proud to be part of this community.

You know, I big umbrella in orbit would do the same thing. You could open it or close it a little to control sunlight. Heck, why not make it thermostatically controlled?!


27 posted on 12/01/2008 2:06:46 PM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Zakeet

Acid rain will cool the weather


28 posted on 12/01/2008 2:08:06 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Conan the Librarian

OMG, the mad scientists are still at it.......


29 posted on 12/01/2008 2:09:58 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Zakeet

So they want to spew a *real* pollutant into the air to counteract the imaginary effects of a pretend pollutant. Great.


30 posted on 12/01/2008 2:10:06 PM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: Zakeet

Repealing the Clean Air Act and waiting 30 years would do the trick, but it would be bad for human lungs. So d@mned if we do, d@mned if we don’t.


31 posted on 12/01/2008 2:10:15 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Zakeet

But...but...that’s...POLLUTING!


32 posted on 12/01/2008 2:10:28 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: Zakeet

How about they just let us go back to high-sulfur coal for powerplants and high-sulfur diesel for trucks and dozers?

What the hell is up jackasses? We spent billions “cleaning up” sulfur so we don’t have acid rain (It went away with the Clinton Administration after being a total nightmare during Reagan). Now they want to bring that back?

What the HELL?


33 posted on 12/01/2008 2:10:40 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: ScreamingFist

No, Gore won the Peace Prize, the most politicized of them all.


34 posted on 12/01/2008 2:11:40 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Zakeet
This is what totally and completely scares me about GW.

Screwing in new light bulbs, or driving around in the "right" kind of car, is hunky-dory, so far as I'm concerned. Also, IMHO, all of those efforts don't amount to a spit in the ocean.

I get scared when people really try to "fix" the "problem". They might really screw things up in a big way.

If American politicians screw this country up enough, I can always leave. Hard to leave the planet, though.

35 posted on 12/01/2008 2:12:12 PM PST by wbill
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To: Zakeet

I think scientists should have to prove they actually have brains before they’re turned loose on society.


36 posted on 12/01/2008 2:16:57 PM PST by mtg
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To: Islander7

If you built the umbrella out of solar cells, you could generate electricity and beam it down to the earth via microwave.

Wait, that would actually work.

(Might not be cost-effective, but it would work.)


37 posted on 12/01/2008 2:19:49 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Damn! NASA beat us to it. I thought we had a winning idea. We could have charged off some the expense to the EU to pay for all these bailouts!

Apparently the system works pretty well.


38 posted on 12/01/2008 2:28:10 PM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I remember “acid rain” when I was in elementary school (1980s).

I read about it, watched a couple of videos about it, and suddenly nobody was talking about it anymore. The next world ending crisis was Global Warming. I suspect the next crisis will be the health and mental side effects of mega-urbanization, requiring the government to spend billions on ensuring that urban dwellers have decent living standards, achieved no less through a liberal use of imminent domain and the confiscation of private property within the urban limits. Meanwhile, the results of socialization of our industries will be an increase in pollution, a decrease in productivity and innovation, and we’ll be right back where we started... with acid rain.


39 posted on 12/01/2008 2:28:52 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Zakeet

“Scientists discussed the merits and demerits of pumping sulfur into the Earth’s atmosphere as a temporary “fix” to global warming “

While restricting the use of Coal plants, of course! These guys are nuts!


40 posted on 12/01/2008 2:31:22 PM PST by flyfree
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To: Sherman Logan

Why FAKE it?
“Visitor Alert - Kilauea is currently emitting elevated levels of sulphur dioxide gas and an ash-laden fume cloud from a new vent within Halema`uma`u crater.”
http://www.nps.gov/havo/closed_areas.htm#CP_JUMP_197197


41 posted on 12/01/2008 2:31:46 PM PST by BigIsleGal (Don't Make Me Call Out My Flying Monkeys!)
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To: Zakeet
Wouldn't dumping sulfur into the atmosphere create acid rain?
42 posted on 12/01/2008 2:39:25 PM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: ctdonath2

I’m located between Nashville and Memphis.
Some Winters pass without our having any snowfall here.

There was an inch on the ground when I left for work today.
Yep, on December 1. This never happens.

I keep wondering when the adults will show up and common sense returns. I’m constantly amazed at the nuttiness that my children’s friends (ages 27, 25, 18, 12) say they ‘know’ to be true. It’s frightening.


43 posted on 12/01/2008 2:40:17 PM PST by cheee (It's better to be careful 100 times than to be killed once. - Mark Twain)
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To: wbill
I get scared when people really try to "fix" the "problem". They might really screw things up in a big way.

Someone made a proposal back in the 70's (and reported in Popular Science) that carbon black be scattered on the glaciers and ice fields to fend off the coming ice age.

If anything like this actually reached a point of serious action, I think someone with some sense had better start asking the grant recipients some serious questions.

Inmates, asylum running?

44 posted on 12/01/2008 2:40:20 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Zakeet
Using 'organic' Sulfur?

Cer-Ti-Fi-able!

45 posted on 12/01/2008 2:48:22 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Zakeet

There is a term for this sort of thinking. It’s generally referred to as Mental Masturbation. Ain’t no way anyone is firing any sulfur into any atmosphere. On the other hand they can talk about it all day long.


46 posted on 12/01/2008 2:53:56 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Zakeet
Bummer about that H2SO4 rain, though. Dude!
47 posted on 12/01/2008 3:04:07 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: Lakeshark

Fixing imagined golobal warming is not their goal. Control is. These people are of two types, scientists who are exhibiting classic “rent-seeking” behavious i.e. looking for grants and prestige, and totalitarian socialists desiring total control of the economy and thus everything else. The actual state of the climate and its causes is irrelevant. What is relevant is what they can make the voters believe.


48 posted on 12/01/2008 3:30:08 PM PST by arthurus (Old Age beat itself with its ownguile and lack of enthusiasm.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
"How about they just let us go back to high-sulfur coal for powerplants and high-sulfur diesel for trucks and dozers?"

Wouldn't do any good. The sulfur oxides need to be in the stratosphere. The correct (and easy) answer is called "high-sulfur jet fuel". Use low-sulfur stuff for takeoffs and landing, and high sulfur for cruising at altitude.

49 posted on 12/01/2008 4:11:30 PM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Islander7

I think you may be on to something there! :{)


50 posted on 12/01/2008 4:17:06 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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