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"Time for Leagues to Do Something About Players With Guns" (Abolish 2nd amendment)
Wash Post ^ | 12/1/2008 | John Feinstein

Posted on 12/01/2008 4:47:31 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

Now, let's not start screaming about the Second Amendment. To begin with, the amendment should be abolished -- a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection and to hunt for food. Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days, and those who hunt for a living can be licensed to do so.

It would be nice if President-elect Obama had the time to focus his energies on repeal of the Second Amendment, but he first has to deal with a broken economy and the incredibly wrong-headed war started by his predecessor. What's more, the issue of gun rights causes almost as much screaming from the right as abortion rights, the irony being that those yelling the loudest about the right to life are usually those yelling almost as loud about their right to carry weapons that kill.

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1 posted on 12/01/2008 4:47:32 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: demoskowitz

Nine complete false premises in 2 paragraphs... It must be some kind of record.


3 posted on 12/01/2008 4:49:42 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: demoskowitz

Spoken like a true slave of the poverty pimps.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 4:49:45 PM PST by BillT (Socialism = Equal Poverty for ALL)
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To: demoskowitz

bump


5 posted on 12/01/2008 4:49:48 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: demoskowitz

Let WaPo know what you think

Main Phone: 703.469.2500


6 posted on 12/01/2008 4:50:57 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: demoskowitz

Does this liberal moron, who makes Franken seems like a mental giant, get paid for this anti-American, Obama-pandering swill ???


7 posted on 12/01/2008 4:51:42 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: demoskowitz

I say abolish the 1st amendment that gives them the freedom to publish this nonsense. /s


8 posted on 12/01/2008 4:52:44 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: demoskowitz

translation: please be good lil slaves ad turn in your guns so that the government slave masters don’t need to get hurt taking all that is rightfully yours.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 4:53:37 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: demoskowitz

This idiot sportswriter Feinstein sounds like he’s trying to outdo idiot Olberman.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 4:53:52 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: demoskowitz

Yo! Feinstein. Who’s going to disarm me? You?


11 posted on 12/01/2008 4:54:34 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: demoskowitz

I canceled my subscription to the Washington Post last week. I’m so happy.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 4:55:07 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: demoskowitz
"a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection and to hunt for food."

I must have missed the "hunt for food" part?

"Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days,"

Oh really? Says who?


"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The 
strongest reason for the people to retain their right to 
keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect 
themselves against tyranny in government." 

--Thomas Jefferson, Draft Virginia Constitution (1776) 

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -
unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments 
are afraid to trust the people with arms."

--James Madison, The Federalist Papers No. 46 

13 posted on 12/01/2008 4:56:27 PM PST by avacado
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To: demoskowitz

After the last election, the need for a militia has become very real.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 4:57:20 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: demoskowitz

Leagues have NO business meddling in the laws of a state. Leagues also have NO business violating the constitutional rights of people within their organizations, imho.

The league should expel that idiot because he broke the law of the state he was in and **had been briefed on** previously. IOW, he had no excuse.


15 posted on 12/01/2008 4:57:41 PM PST by Khepri (NEO-STALIN FASCIST DEFEATS NEO-LIBERAL MAOIST!! How's that working for yah?)
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To: demoskowitz

How about we rid the NFL of thugs? I realize that would be about half the league but it is past time we quit pretending. Then take all those thugs and place Mr Fienstein among them in their home turf without a weapon.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 4:57:52 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: demoskowitz
Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days...

It is just this sort of thinking that clearly demonstrates that we may need to raise a militia very soon. Not just ot protect us form the foreign aggressor, but also from the enemy within that tyrannize us by taking away our guns and then...?

17 posted on 12/01/2008 4:57:54 PM PST by DaveyB (Those who are merciful to the cruel will be cruel to the merciful.)
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To: demoskowitz

The irony of a writer railing against one of the 10 amendments that make up the Bill of Rights is delicious.


18 posted on 12/01/2008 4:58:52 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: demoskowitz

...what about the VERY LAX procedures on licensing the operations of vehicles that can [and do] kill more citizens more frequently than guns?


19 posted on 12/01/2008 4:59:11 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: demoskowitz

Bump for later.


20 posted on 12/01/2008 4:59:26 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: demoskowitz
To begin with, the amendment should be abolished -- a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection and to hunt for food.

Moron. Public school product, no doubt.

21 posted on 12/01/2008 5:00:33 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: demoskowitz
What a bunch of juvenile, ignorant, misguided, and loaded words.

Feinstein, who is overweight because he eats too much, beats the crap out of his wife every night, sexually molest his kids and the kids of his friends, would have fought with the British against those radical people fighting for self reliance and liberty.
22 posted on 12/01/2008 5:02:00 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: jazusamo

Why are so many sports “journalists” such complete brain-dead moonbats? Besides the notorious Olberman, so extreme even other moonbats mock him, there is the truly despicable Bryant Gumbel. The latter put in the single most disgraceful performance in the history of broadcast journalism on the morning of 9-11-01, continuing to insist that the attack was not not deliberate even after the second plane hit, and browbeating traumatized eyewitnesses who dared to suggest otherwise. Fortunately, even the networks could not stomach his arrogance forever and he was eventually reduced to narrating UFO propaganda on the Sci-Fi Channel before a pathetic attempt at a comeback in sports, which he naturally ruined with his big mouth.
There is a bad sickness loose in this country and the journalism/advertising/entertainment continuum, the media-industrial complex, is the focus of most of it.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 5:02:07 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: demoskowitz

If the majority of today’s public hadn’t been fed a steady diet of this trip in school, with virtually no counter, this idiot wouldn’t be able to get away with publishing such outright lies.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 5:02:07 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: demoskowitz

I’m just going to guess that Feinstein didn’t suggest that the NFL stop allowing hoodrats into the league or preventing players from going to strip clubs and night clubs during the season.

And I’m guessing that he isn’t going to suggest that there be instituted some kind of One Strike policy for criminals in the NFL (would might otherwise be in jail already if not for their physical gifts and NFL security bailing them out of criminal situations).


25 posted on 12/01/2008 5:02:14 PM PST by bpjam (Any people wonder how so many German stood by while Hitler did what he did?)
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To: demoskowitz
Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days...

Actually, there's never been a better time to raise a militia.

26 posted on 12/01/2008 5:02:58 PM PST by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: demoskowitz

“What’s more, the issue of gun rights causes almost as much screaming from the right as abortion rights, the irony being that those yelling the loudest about the right to life are usually those yelling almost as loud about their right to carry weapons that kill.”

I’ve heard this argument, in several variations (death penalty, etc.), from lefties over the years. The fundamental (no pun intended) flaw is always the same: they create the false argument that an unborn child is morally equivalent to whatever it is they are criticizing.

It is patently absurd to say that wanting legal protections for an unborn innocent is somehow equivalent with owning and (if necessary) using a firearm to protect oneself against harm to life and limb.


27 posted on 12/01/2008 5:03:58 PM PST by DemforBush (Millions of conservatives have got your back, Sarah!)
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To: demoskowitz
"it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection"

It was also needed for citizens to be able to protect themselves, their families, their homes, and their property from those who would take what is not theirs or cause them harm. (Most of those who would do so are known today as Obama's voterbase).

Suggesting that the gun grab is a needed effort, this fool doesn't walk the streets of New York or Washington D.C. at night, I'm sure.

28 posted on 12/01/2008 5:05:51 PM PST by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: demoskowitz

To his credit, at least he attacks the 2nd Amendement openly, instead of trying to give a different interpretation that is opposite of the intent. Other liberals usually take the latter route.


29 posted on 12/01/2008 5:06:23 PM PST by paudio (Conservatism is a word with various meanings. To win, we need unified issue and message.)
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To: DemforBush

Whoops - truncated my last post - here’s what I meant to post:

It is patently absurd to say that wanting legal protections for an unborn innocent is somehow equivalent with a convicted 1st degree murderer facing execution. And it’s just beyond the pale to suggest owning and (if necessary) using a firearm to protect oneself against harm to life and limb is somehow in contradiction with being pro-life.

sorry for the goof, folks.


30 posted on 12/01/2008 5:09:05 PM PST by DemforBush (Millions of conservatives have got your back, Sarah!)
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To: demoskowitz

To begin with, the amendment should be abolished — a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection and to hunt for food. Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days, and those who hunt for a living can be licensed to do so.”

*******

Clearly, Feinstein is an idiot and a wuss. Sensibilities such as his will lead to tyranny.

George Washington: “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people’s liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them [guns] by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference [crime]. When firearms go, all goes,
we need them every hour.” (Address to 1st session of Congress)


31 posted on 12/01/2008 5:09:43 PM PST by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: demoskowitz

to post a piece of crap like this w/o a major hurl alert borders on criminal.


32 posted on 12/01/2008 5:09:52 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: avacado

“”No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The
strongest reason for the people to retain their right to
keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect
themselves against tyranny in government.””

If he said this today, Jefferson would be placed on an FBI watchlist and probably get a visit from the ATF.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 5:12:03 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: bereanway
Sensibilities such as his will lead to tyranny

Beginning January 20, 2009 you will get a bellyfull of it, my FRiend.

34 posted on 12/01/2008 5:13:06 PM PST by sport
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To: demoskowitz
Good luck trying to see it repealed. The Dems don't have a two-thirds majority in Congress.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 12/01/2008 5:14:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: atomic conspiracy

That’s a good question and I haven’t the slightest idea. You’d think sports “jounalists” would stick to the thing they at least claim to know something about. A good number of them aren’t even proficient at that but when they write on other subjects they expose their stupidity.


36 posted on 12/01/2008 5:15:51 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: demoskowitz
...a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection...

The sheer stupidity of that statement is beyond belief.

And, the fact that it was written in regards to a damned football player...a football player, people, is equally astounding.

We are surrounded by idiots, from the damned fool that wrote the above pap, to the breathtakingly witless fools that actually think the actions of a damned football player actually rise to the level of argument about the viability of the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

We ain't going to hell in a hand basket...we are already there.

America, I weep for your future.

37 posted on 12/01/2008 5:17:56 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. No to Hussein. BO stinks.)
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To: demoskowitz

One thing that President Obama will probably succeed in doing is officially end the Cuban embargo, and, in return, Cuba will allow its athletes to become professionals on the worldwide stage. Tons of Cuban boxers and Cuban baseball players would go professional.


38 posted on 12/01/2008 5:18:03 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: jazusamo

Funny thing is, for a “sports journalist” he misses the point that outdoor sports like Deer Hunting or Duck Hunting are on the major cable networks, and target shooting is a Olympic Sport.

Leftists run sports media, make no mistake about it, when ESPN is running Obama stories, you know the gig is up.

Furthermore, when a “journalist” strays afield into a political topic, they should at least have the barest minimum of knowledge as to the subject matter they are writing articles about, alas, he does not even pass that low bar.


39 posted on 12/01/2008 5:25:15 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: demoskowitz
It would be nice if President-elect Obama had the time to focus his energies on repeal of the Second Amendment, ...

I wish he had the time to do that, too. It would take up his time on an impossible task and take away time that he could be screwing up something else.

40 posted on 12/01/2008 5:31:57 PM PST by weaponeer
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Clearly no one needs to raise a militia these days...

Why, has the threat of tyranny grown more remote in the last 219 years? I hadn't noticed.

41 posted on 12/01/2008 5:33:31 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: demoskowitz

No words can describe all that’s wrong with this man and his thought processes.

Thank G_d he’s nothing more than a simple sports commentator and has no power to enforce his will on us lesser beings.


42 posted on 12/01/2008 5:33:35 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (There are 1510 days until marxist occupation ends. What are you doing to shorten the war?)
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To: demoskowitz

a sensible interpretation of the amendment is that it was written to allow the people to raise a militia for protection and to hunt for food

Why are all “journalist” MORONS?
If the 2nd Adment was about hunting the very intelligent and common sense writers of the Constitutuon would have used the term hunter in it. They did not. They did not because unlike what the idiot write suggests it was not about hunting food. The entire Constitution was written to PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT. There for the founders wanted the CITIZENS, not the Government’s National Guard or Army or Navy to have the RIGHT to bear arms.


43 posted on 12/01/2008 5:33:44 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: padre35

You make a great point about sports that entail the use of firearms, he probably doesn’t consider those sports to be legimate ones.


44 posted on 12/01/2008 5:33:45 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Sheesh, legitimate


45 posted on 12/01/2008 5:36:01 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: paudio

He tries to give the 2nd amendment a different interpretation too.


46 posted on 12/01/2008 5:36:47 PM PST by javachip
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To: demoskowitz

Who is John Feinstein and why is he so stoopid??????

mrs


47 posted on 12/01/2008 5:37:28 PM PST by proudmilitarymrs (Obama wants to spread the wealth around. My wealth.)
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To: demoskowitz

Better get used to it, y’all. Childish thinkers like this feel they have a mandate following zero’s election. It’s just going to get worse.


48 posted on 12/01/2008 5:39:09 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (I personally believe...)
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To: demoskowitz
So the NFL is responsible for the criminal miss use of hand guns, and not Plaxico Burres.

Agenda driven drivel.

49 posted on 12/01/2008 5:40:27 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: demoskowitz

Mega Barf-o-rama Alert!!!


50 posted on 12/01/2008 5:45:16 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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