Posted on 12/02/2008 12:10:12 AM PST by plsjr
On October 31, 2006, I released a column titled When 51-49 becomes 49-51 in which I stated, “Nearly every American senses a horrific problem on the horizon. But due to massive amounts of disinformation, few know the cause or can see what, if anything, to do about it.”
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* The unalienable right to life - Gone with Roe vs. Wade!
* The unalienable right to individual liberty - Replaced with a greater common good!
* The unalienable right to pursue happiness - Gone with the XVI Amendment and oppressive punitive taxation.
* Free speech - Gone with political correctness, replaced with socially acceptable speech.
* Free religious expression - Gone with a new freedom from public religious expression.
* States rights - Gone with the XVII Amendment.
(Excerpt) Read more at skewz.com ...
CIVIL WAR? I’m up for it. Let the good times roll mama.
bump for later
We know how it can very easily start...
the Birth Certificate.
He’s hiding something.
Nobody spends $1 million to fight being forced to produce a document which would cost just $12.00.
This will come to a head, cities will explode...
Do we have any patriotic, warrior types among the Joint Chiefs with the coglioni to carry this out, or are they all Wesley Clark effeminate fops?
In the infamous last words of Gary Gilmore..."Let's do it!"
There will be no Civil War II because in a historical context we should have been one by now, our differences are striking between Left and Right, so much so that compared to the reasons for the first Civil War, that war could have been settled peacefully.
Please give a reference (to the Constitution) where either the word or the concept of "tickets" is used.
Fascinating. I will bookmark for a later read. This reminds me of the very old article written by Walter E. Williams talking about how a couple of states should be populated by freedom-lovers and could possibly secede. (I don’t have the link right now.)
CW II ping?
I'll put my money on rednecks with four wheel drives and shotguns over anything that comes out of the 'hood....
Hint: they grew up during the Clinton years. The four-stars are, if nothing else, political.
The Military itself will be torn apart. This will be the first Civil war. It will not a War Between the States.
“cities will explode”,
That’s ok with me, I don’t like the nasty places anyway.
Just remember, there are plenty of Freeper types in Liberal occupied territory. Don’t carpet bomb New Jersey until we have a chance to get out!
Obama’s election could bring about the next Civil War - Rural Red vs. the Big Blue urban areas
I think many people have had this thought but never elucidated it in public
While I agree we are heading towards a dark hole that only SCOTUS can stop I think the war will be about:
Working taxpaying Americans vs our elite ruling class from both parties.
It isn’t the fault of poor people or blacks that we are where we are.
The fault is clearly in the hands of our ruling elite. This means most in the democrat party and a very large group of republican socialists.
This group of thugs include George W. Bush, Juan McCain, and many other republican socilaists.
In order to return our country to it’s constitutional roots a complete purge is required.
This includes the press. If conservatives had any balls and real conceens we would all boycott all leftist media. This includes movies. We’d demand end of funding to PBS, NPR, ACORN and other left wing groups.
The finance market needs to be returned to the private sector and our bank decentralized.
The US Government is bankrupt right now, they have no money and they are borrowing TRILLIONS so they can spend more.
The question is will our soldiers fire on US citizens?
If they do we have a revolution on our hands.
We are in the midst of a coup, our country has just been overthrown by ACORN, members of the democrat ruling elite, members of the republican ruling elite and interests from outside the US.
Why do people think O collected by some estimates, $300 million in campaign money from OUTSIDE the US.
it’s a coup, O is not a US citizen.
Hitler came to power by taking advantage in several of the defects in the Weimar Constitution [1]. But his road to power could have been stopped had the opposition been sufficiently resolute. We call limp Republicans RINOs for a good reason, and the Republican party must hope there are enough Democrats who still have a conscience so they have the votes to stop where the US is sliding.
There have been moments in our history when the Constitution, as exiled as it is, was protected by the actions of just a handful of patriots. We may be headed for one of those moments in just a very few days.
[1]
http://mars.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/germany/lectures/23weimar_collapse.html
Obama was simply chosen to lead the party of urban liberals. He's not worth all the attention of the right. He's just a big city socialist. The focus needs to be on Republican Socialists and those Democrats that bring the government into every aspect of life crashing the economy and gaining even more power for it. Bush is probably more responsible than Obama right now.
There has never been a wealth transfer program as large as what was accomplished with the CRA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over the last decade. And the US has actually given more control to varmits getting rich buying votes.
Your post has no basis in law or the US Constitution.
If SCOTUS rules he can’t take office before the EC vote on Dec 15, then they just vote for whoever they want, could be they elect Hillery Clinton.
If after the EC vote but before being sworn then we have a different can of worms. My guess is VP becomes president elect, he picks a VP. Same thing after taking oath.
But at that point he would be a lame duck.
A much better solution is to call for a constitutional convention to work out an amicable divorce from the leftists and their useful idiots.
Don’t know if it can be done, but I do know we can never enjoy even a modicum of freedom as long as leftists and collectivists live among us.
I pretty much agree with you on all points.
Bump.
CW2? Total nonsense.
Creeping socialism has already got us all so interdependent, we are all hostages. What are you going to do when the cop at your door, who has come to take your guns or arrest you for sedition, is your neighbor or your boss’ brother? And he says “Come on, don’t make trouble. I could lose my job.”
What are you going to do when your employer has to let you go because you have a criminal record because you didn’t report your gun sale, or you homeschooled your kid, or you protested against gay marriage and committed a hate crime?
Are you going to meet secretly on Tuesday nights with the other Sons of Liberty and talk about how you lost your job, pension, friends, spouse, health benefits, credit rating, license to practice, license to carry, tenure, internet connection, and/or your mortgaged house?
Bolshoi.
You will submit. You have been submitting all this time, and you have been hogtied with countless micro strands of socialist bondage.
Like the man said, mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves.
Keep waiting for that insufferable evil. You are already frog-boiled beyond any hope of recovery.
CW2 is just a keyboarder’s fantasy game.
http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn05-2
You hit the nail squarely on the head.
Correct. Unlike our liberal radical counterparts, conservatives in defeat, simply kick the dirt and go back to their jobs.
I agree. We have accepted far too much creeping socialism already.
Can anyone help me locate the article about the 22,000 troops being dispatched to the US ,for “Civil Unrest” duty? This post brought it to mind.It was on the news yesterday and since ,has been buried .
The big difference between the left and the right, as far as secession goes,
is that we (on the right) all pretty much agree that we’d let them go with a handshake and a “good luck with that”.
They, however, cannot stand the idea of someone living outside of their control, and would attempt a forced re-integration of those of us who just want to be left alone.
More likely compared to the 2nd revolutionary war. But a lot more complex.
Lets hope it happens peacefully; I do not want war-though it may come (lead) to that..!
And loose..how does “red dawn” sound to you?
It can’t happen peacefully for the reasons I’ve already stated -
the leftist mentality of control would not let people go peacefully to live outside of their control.
On another note, say the secession was successful. I say we implement strict immigration tests. People have to be of the right “mind” in order to live freely.
Basically, a “constrained” vs “unconstrained” worldview test.
This would test whether they believed the individual was better equipped to decide his own life’s choices, or if someone smarter should make them for him.
Sad place for our country to be. But the weight of our childrens future falls now at our feet.
Do we continue to allow the socialists spend more and nationalize ever enlarging segments of our economy?
I say it is past the time to draw the line in the sand.
I envision a Second Revolution or a Counter Revolution if you will, should the birth certificate issue not be satisfactorily resolved.
I pesonally would like to see a restoration of the original republic where the concepts of limited government, limited taxation authority, individual freedom, property rights, and free market capitalism trumps democracy or the “will of the people”
That is how our Founding Fathers originally set up the Republic. Only property owning males could cast ballots in federal elections. Presidents were elected by the Electoral College. Senators were elected by state legislatures. We were a true Republic back then with real checks and balances. There was no such thing as “activist judges.”
Of course we could never really go back to such a political culture completely with only property owning males permitted to vote. However, we could and we should dramatically increase voting standards. The voting age should be raised. Voters should be able to prove citizenship along with the Deity-elect. Voters should have attained a certain educational level and should either be taxpayers or property owners.
This whole notion of direct democracy was completely alien to our Founders whose main concern was to protect the citzenry from unbridled government power and authority and taxation. Unfortunately, after years of indoctrination by neo-Stalinist teachers unions, tenured radical left college professors, along with a thoroughly disgusting and contemptible media and entertainment culture, most people in this country are completely and totally unaware of what a true republican government is all about.
Years ago, I saw a bumper sticker put out by the John Birch Society stating that this is a republic, not a democracy. At the time, I dismissed it as a trivial point. Now I get it. Now that it is too late. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America—the USSA—and Chicagograd is now the de facto capital.
Viva La Counterrevolucion!
If the economic crash doesn’t get us first. The Federal Beast takes so much money to run that I think it’ll be pretty toothless to do much if we go into a spiral.
We may just end up being on our own.
That’s a sure bet!
If it comes to CW, there is a danger that the Neo-Soviets will try grabbing Alaska, and our southern borders will come under a lesser degree of assault from Castro, Chavez, and their ch*ngaderos. there are perilous times ahead..
We have strayed far from the principles of constitutionality and while I feel that there should be some corrections I am not willing to abandon constitutional principle altogether.
I would like to see the 2nd amendment made clear so that there could be no further debate. I would like the definition of treason changed to include unconstitutional legislation and/or usurpation of powers. I would like states to have representation again. I think a fair tax system should be incorporated into the constitution so it only be changed (in rate and/or structure) by constitutional amendment.
I don't think that a majority people actually want the government described in the constitution and I think less even knows what it would be like. A government actually run by the principles of the constitution would be a miraculous thing. Making some small changes to slow the steady usurpation we have seen historically would secure a true constitutionally mandated government for our decendents.
While this is an interesting intellectual exercise I think that concerned patriots have a better chance of victory by passing constitutional amendments and electing leaders that take the constitution seriously, then trying more overt action.
We started going down hill in 1913. In that year the Federal Reserve System was created, the federal income tax was imposed, and an amendment to the constitution calling for the direct election of U.S. Senators was passed. It is no coincidence that Woodrow Wilson was president. The first liberal Democrat to occupy the White House. Later he tried to drag us into the League of Nations, the precursor to the U.N.
“While this is an interesting intellectual exercise I think that concerned patriots have a better chance of victory by passing constitutional amendments and electing leaders that take the constitution seriously, then trying more overt action.”
Good comment. Walter E. Williams has been writing think-pieces on this subject for years. Here is one in which he talks about Oklahoma. This gives us an idea how each state can begin “pushing back” at the feds.
http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2008/07/16/oklahoma_rebellion
Cecession or Nullification
By Walter E. Williams
http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2002/04/10/secession_or_nullification
I prefer the famous quote of Todd Beamer...""Are you guys ready? Let's roll."
Or CA either!
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