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Franken campaign claims first lead in recount
minnesota independent ^ | By 12/3/08 1:17 PM | Paul Demko

Posted on 12/03/2008 12:39:11 PM PST by jessduntno

Al Franken’s campaign claims it now holds a 22-vote lead in the U.S. Senate race with just 138,000 votes left to be recounted. This figure contrasts with other tabulations, based on numbers from the Minnesota Secretary of State’s Office, that show Coleman maintaining a 303-vote lead.

The Franken numbers differ in a couple of respects from the SOS data. Most importantly the Democratic camp’s vote tally relies on the call made by local election officials in determining which candidate an individual intended to support. By contrast the other tallies don’t take into consideration the roughly 6,000 ballots that have been challenged by both campaigns. In addition, the Franken campaign’s figures include recount data that came in after the SOS’s 8 p.m. daily deadline for posting information.

Marc Elias, the Franken campaign’s lead recount attorney, stated at a press conference today that he believes an overwhelming majority of the challenges will ultimately be ruled to be without merit. “Thus when we set out internally to decide how we track the results thus far, we assume that all of the challenges, on both sides, will be overruled by the canvassing board,” he noted, “and that the judgment of the neutral, non-partisan election official at the counting table will be upheld.”

Elias also announced that the Franken campaign intends to rescind 633 challenges that it has determined are without merit. Unless the Coleman campaigns takes similar action, this means that Coleman’s lead as tabulated using the SOS figures will likely grow when the new figures are released this evening. As of last night the Republican’s campaign had challenged 183 more ballots than its Democratic counterpart.

The final four counties — Winona, Rock, Redwood and Wright — began their recounts today. The entire process is expected to conclude by Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at minnesotaindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electioncongress; electionussenate; stealingelections; votefraud; voting
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Imbeciles....total morons...who could POSSIBLY think Stewart Smalley should be anywhere near a Government office...Cripes...
1 posted on 12/03/2008 12:39:11 PM PST by jessduntno
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To: jessduntno

He is so full of crap. He has no lead. Al Franken makes Obama look like a saint


2 posted on 12/03/2008 12:39:47 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: jessduntno

This is just rich. Classic “repeat a lie until it becomes reality”.

Unreal.


3 posted on 12/03/2008 12:40:58 PM PST by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: jessduntno

And the RINO govenor? He lay low.


4 posted on 12/03/2008 12:41:13 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: jessduntno

If as first you don’t succeed, recount and recount again till you do.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 12:41:46 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: mattdono

Franken WILL steal this election.....


6 posted on 12/03/2008 12:41:57 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: jessduntno

It’s amazing to watch the Dems do this every election cycle. Statistically one would think that one of these recounts would at some point favor the Republican.

Strangely they all favor the Democrats — especially when missing ballots turn up. Hilarious.


7 posted on 12/03/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by rom (Voted for Ron Paul in the primary. Voted against Obama in the general and FOR Palin.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The only one who thinks he has a lead is Franken, and that is by 22 votes. Everyone else agrees Coleman’s lead has actually increased since the recount started. I guess maybe Coleman should concede so Al can take his Senate seat.


8 posted on 12/03/2008 12:42:35 PM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: jessduntno

Lovely. Now the Dems take MN.

Every close race has somehow ended up as Dem victory: OR, AK, now MN.

Only a revote in GA saved Chambliss.


9 posted on 12/03/2008 12:43:04 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: mattdono
This is just rich. Classic “repeat a lie until it becomes reality”.

I always ask people who say Bush was not legal elected, just when Gore was ahead in the Florida vote count? They all swear that he was, but of course, that never happened.

10 posted on 12/03/2008 12:43:19 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: milwguy

They wouldn’t know. Franken is the one that knows the fix is in. I’m sure they’re scheduled to find more “votes” for Franken in the refrigerator, just enough to put him over the top.


11 posted on 12/03/2008 12:44:02 PM PST by couchpotatoxxx12
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To: jessduntno

That state should be embarrassed not only because their process seems to be very bad...but also that Franken was even close enough for a recount.


12 posted on 12/03/2008 12:44:19 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: jessduntno
Al Franken’s campaign claims it now holds a 22-vote lead in the U.S. Senate race

It's sort of like a "shadow government." A "shadow election"—a replica of the real one, but arranged the way you'd like it to be. He can dream, can't he?

At least the Brits don't claim the "shadow" is the real thing.

13 posted on 12/03/2008 12:45:28 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: jessduntno

Recount, recount, recount until your guy magically has a lead then “STOP!! WE WON”

Right out of the Dem’s playbook.


14 posted on 12/03/2008 12:45:44 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“He is so full of crap. He has no lead”

This is all about throwing up enough doubt so as to offer cover for the Senate to seat him rather than Coleman.


15 posted on 12/03/2008 12:45:46 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Elpasser

“Every close race has somehow ended up as Dem victory: OR, AK, now MN.”

Odds are on their side...even if they have to cheat to put them there...remember their rally cry is “the ends justify the means”......


16 posted on 12/03/2008 12:45:57 PM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: jessduntno

It appears that all the psychotherapy for co-dependency, etc has paid off.


17 posted on 12/03/2008 12:47:05 PM PST by Augustinian monk ("Can't we try bombing them with kindness?")
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To: Elpasser
Every close race has somehow ended up as Dem victory:

Bush 2000?

18 posted on 12/03/2008 12:47:38 PM PST by E=MC2
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To: jessduntno

Franken creates his own vote count showing him ahead so he can get the U.S. Senate to decide the election. I don’t think he’ll get away with this.


19 posted on 12/03/2008 12:47:53 PM PST by hugorand
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Won’t be long and He’ll have won by a landslide, an He’ll claim a mandate to run the Senate


20 posted on 12/03/2008 12:49:37 PM PST by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

Not going to happen....93% of vote counted and Coleman has increased his lead to over 300. Even the 171 ‘found’ ballots only netted Frnaken 37 more votes. Coleman will win and the US Senate will not intervene because Chambliss shattered their dream of 60 votes. franken can cry all he wants, but there is no way he can put enough of a fix in to steal the election now. By Friday all he will have left is a lawasuit.


21 posted on 12/03/2008 12:49:49 PM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: MrLee
They're not going through this to make sure that the right man wins. This is classic Democrat strategy to steal an election. Get it close and then recount until you get the desired results.

THIEVES!!!

22 posted on 12/03/2008 12:50:32 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: milwguy

I can’t help being pessimistic...nothing stopped any of the other dem candidates from “finding” enough votes to put them over the top, why would this be any different? It’s almost funny, I was WAITING for the “Franken finds uncounted ballots” story.


23 posted on 12/03/2008 12:52:04 PM PST by couchpotatoxxx12
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To: jessduntno

24 posted on 12/03/2008 12:52:16 PM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: jessduntno

So does that mean we stop counting? Or keep counting to see if he can maintain his lead? How many other missing ballots are there?


25 posted on 12/03/2008 12:53:45 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

At 1% margin with multiple candidates in the race, it should trigger an automatic RUNOFF rather than “recount”. Recount when there are only 2 people.


26 posted on 12/03/2008 12:54:59 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Red Badger

Looks like not THAT many people like him...as for good enough and smart enough, well, bwaaaaaahhhhhahahahahahahawwwwwwwwwwwwwhawwwwwwwwwwww...


27 posted on 12/03/2008 12:55:16 PM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: jessduntno

This is the first funny thing Franken has said in a long time.

This is just like Pravda telling us Stalin is alive and well.


28 posted on 12/03/2008 12:55:32 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: jessduntno

Maybe MN should just have a do-over. Given that ‘rats are lazy (documented by the hugh Saxby win in GA), Franken would be sent packing (and I don’t mean with heat).


29 posted on 12/03/2008 12:56:39 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: jessduntno
Senator Frankenberry


30 posted on 12/03/2008 12:57:01 PM PST by Archytekt
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To: jessduntno

Quick!!!!!!!! Someone PLEEEEASE, manufacture some ballots for Coleman... Anyone have leftover Coleman ballots in the trunk of their car, child’s backpack, attic next to Christmas decorations??? If so, PLEASE forward to the Coleman campaign because they need so extra ammo.


31 posted on 12/03/2008 1:02:44 PM PST by montesquiue
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To: jessduntno

Well, that means its finally time to stop counting, right Al?


32 posted on 12/03/2008 1:05:57 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: E=MC2

Nice try. But Bush was in the lead in all counts save for when the dems decided to recount only selected heavily democrat counties.

The US Supreme Court put a stop to that selective bias. If it had proceeded the dems would have ‘found’ votes as they always do in close elections, and Gore would have been President.

The dems in 2000 tried to steal the election but were stopped. That is why to this day they say ‘Bush was Selected’ which is a lie. Bush was saved from dem voter fraud.

So your analogy is without merit.


33 posted on 12/03/2008 1:06:21 PM PST by Hostage
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To: jessduntno
Most importantly the Democratic camp’s vote tally relies on the call made by local election officials in determining which candidate an individual intended to support.
"Intended to support"

They're counting, "intended supporters" as votes?!? Are they goofy - don't answer that. Sheesh, I once "intended" to buy a Lamborghini, but I didn't. So I can't go around saying I actually "owned" one. Or maybe I could in Frankenworld.

The whole dam Franken camp needs to be committed to an insane asylum asap, starting with the lawyers.

34 posted on 12/03/2008 1:09:01 PM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Karl Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu.)
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To: E=MC2

“Every close race has somehow ended up as Dem victory:”

“Bush 2000?”
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Yep, I still chuckle about Bush 2000. The Dems cheated in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida and they still lost. Ole GW outsmarted them and they have never forgiven him for it.


35 posted on 12/03/2008 1:09:24 PM PST by this is my country
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Are you serious???!!! What was the year 2000 then? Wow that is one really big assumption you have there.


36 posted on 12/03/2008 1:12:05 PM PST by Iceduck1
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To: Hostage; E=MC2
Nice try. But Bush was in the lead in all counts save for when the dems decided to recount only selected heavily democrat counties.

The US Supreme Court put a stop to that selective bias. If it had proceeded the dems would have ‘found’ votes as they always do in close elections, and Gore would have been President.

The dems in 2000 tried to steal the election but were stopped. That is why to this day they say ‘Bush was Selected’ which is a lie. Bush was saved from dem voter fraud.

So your analogy is without merit.

Sorry but while your analysis of the 2000 election in Florida is pretty accurate, the point E-MC2 was making, the way I read it, is that the Republicans have won close elections, which is true. In fact we won the most important race, for president, in a close race.

I don't believe he commented on how, just that we won a close election. And he is correct.

37 posted on 12/03/2008 1:13:07 PM PST by billva
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To: jessduntno

He is saying this to establish the “inevitability” of socialism in MN.


38 posted on 12/03/2008 1:13:11 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: jessduntno
the call made by local election officials in determining which candidate an individual intended to support.

This should certainly be illegal. Only the voter can determine which candidate the intended to support. The way they do that is to properly fill out their ballot. There should never be anyone else trying to decipher their intent.

39 posted on 12/03/2008 1:15:53 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; mattdono; TexasCajun

Recount, recount, recount, until a single tally results in a lead for your candidate. Then shout loudly that the “people’s will has finally been known!”

A well-known and well-used Democratic strategy.


40 posted on 12/03/2008 1:18:40 PM PST by tom h
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To: Elpasser
Only a revote in GA saved Chambliss.

It was not a revote, it was a runoff and Chabliss had substantial margins in both.

41 posted on 12/03/2008 1:19:24 PM PST by E=MC2
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To: jessduntno

“Are we looking at the Franken or at the Beans???”

There’s something about Al...


42 posted on 12/03/2008 1:19:57 PM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: screaminsunshine

Isnn’t this the same RINO governor that was under consideration for VP for McCain?


43 posted on 12/03/2008 1:20:59 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: screaminsunshine

Isn’t this the same RINO governor that was under consideration for VP for McCain?


44 posted on 12/03/2008 1:21:09 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: brytlea

I agree. Counting intentions would be so incredibly presumptuous and moronic it would eliminate any future possibility for fair and free elections. I intended to move to Minnesota and vote for Coleman. Does my vote count or am I going to be “disenfranchised”?


45 posted on 12/03/2008 1:21:40 PM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: jessduntno

Imbeciles....total morons...who could POSSIBLY think Stewart Smalley should be anywhere near a Government office...Cripes...
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Yeah, they may as well elect a professional wrestler to head their state government.


46 posted on 12/03/2008 1:26:15 PM PST by soupcon
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To: soupcon

Yeah, or a carpet-bagger from Arkansas...


47 posted on 12/03/2008 1:32:27 PM PST by astyanax (If you need to wear a mask while speaking your mind, it is probably best you remain silent...)
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To: jessduntno

Do not believe a single word they say. Ever.


48 posted on 12/03/2008 1:40:11 PM PST by Skid Marx
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Theiving liars and frauds,the modern DNC


49 posted on 12/03/2008 1:45:41 PM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean !! Hello Jorge??)
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To: jessduntno

I am soooooo glad I am no longer a member of the party of Al Franken. From Al Gore to the Al Franken, the utter losers of elections, however close, are such babies.

They relish power so much they refuse to lose gracefully and try again.

Honestly, they nauseate me. Adults acting like 2 year old children.


50 posted on 12/03/2008 1:49:37 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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