Skip to comments.Men Shot To Death At Toy Store Had Troubled Pasts
Posted on 12/03/2008 1:28:06 PM PST by BenLurkin
Juan Mesa, 28, and Alejandro Moreno, 39, Both Had Criminal Records PALM DESERT Both men who died on "Black Friday" in a shootout inside the Toys "R" Us store on Highway 111 at Fred Waring Drive had criminal records, and one of them is believed to have been a gang member, authorities said Wednesday.
Juan Meza, 28, of Cathedral City, had a tattoo that read "VMV," which indicates that he was a member an Indio-area gang called Varrio Mecca Vineyards, Riverside County District Attorney's Office spokesman Michael Jeandron said.
Alejandro Moreno, 39, of Desert Hot Springs, was also killed in the shooting.
Meza pleaded guilty in March and in November 2007 to being a felon in possession of a firearm. In September 2005, he pleaded guilty to assault with a weapon, and in 2002, he pleaded guilty to possessing a controlled substance for sale while armed, according to court records.
Records show that Moreno had a criminal record spanning back to 1998, when he pleaded guilty to inflicting corporal injury on a spouse. Charges of assault with a deadly weapon, criminal threats and willfully harming a child were dismissed as part of a plea deal.
Moreno and Meza shot each other to death as parents and children were shopping for holiday gifts, Riverside County sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez said. Two guns were recovered near the men's bodies.
Witnesses said the men were with two women who got into a fight that escalated into the fatal shootings, which sent terrified shoppers and their children scrambling for cover.
Sounds like it couldn’t have happened to a better pair.
“Troubled Pasts” ?
He must be a really BAD A$$!
I only have one Past......This guy has pasts...........
does being killed in a toy store kinda hurt the street cred?
Dumb R Us.
Well, I for one AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell ya!
It’s a good thing that they were both legally barred from owning a firearm. I feel so much safer.
They’ll still get to vote for 0bama in 2012.
And the world doesn’t miss either one.
No downside to this story. What’s not to like? Probably saved at least $2 MM taxpayer dollars.
MEN not MAN, man............
Now if only these two could start a trend! Illegal alien thugs kill each other...news at 6:00!
Good plan if we can get it going... :)
“Hey man, let’s meet and settle this thing once and for all”
“OK how about a toy store?”
“A toy store?”
“Yeah, homes. I got a gift card”.
Ya think? And what gave THAT away?
“Now if only these two could start a trend! Illegal alien thugs kill each other...news at 6:00!”
Sounds like a good idea for a reality show.
Dumb R Us.
I liked your response and your tagline...
And why is it "troubled" pasts, rather than "criminal" pasts (not to mention presents, but fortunately not futures)?
I hope that's the start of a trend.
Gee, no kidding....
“Now if only these two could start a trend! Illegal alien thugs kill each other...news at 6:00!
Sounds like a good idea for a reality show.”
Best thing? They both shot straight. Two malefactors DRT! No innocent bystanders hit! That is a trend worth working for!
A Mexican Stand-off with a happy ending...
Good riddance. They would have ended up in prison or dead by violence eventually. Those kind of guys always come to bad ends.
to infinity and beyond!
But they ain't gonna get no pie.
“And why is it “troubled” pasts, rather than “criminal” pasts”
Well, lefties say that they’re victims of their environment-being victimized by nasty gringos, jackbooted policemen, eeevil big business, and cruel Republicans;)
These two latino gentlemen are going to have a very troubled future.
I’ve heard reporters opining along the lines of “That’s the problem with having all these guns on the streets. See how this escalated because they had guns?”. As usual, they miss the point. These were bad people. As felons, they clearly were not carrying legally anyway. A new gun law would not have prevented this.
Same reason that Simon and Garfunkle didn't sing Bridge over Criminal Waters ... it doesn't sound as psycho-spiffy. And we all know that psycho-spiffy is what all good J-school students want to achieve.
And trashy girlfriends. “Let’s go to the toy store, honey, and bring your gun in case we meet Ana and that creep she goes out with.”
Oh, that explains it.
Might have trouble future also.
You mean you don’t pack at Toys ‘R Us? I pack everywhere I go except Gub’mint buildings and work. (It disturbs the peeps)
I haven’t been to Toys R Us in years. The only one near us closed.
(Good for you, btw. Getting a pistol and a license is on my list of things to do when I’m not having a baby.)
Men Shot To Death At Toy Store Had Troubled Pasts
(There, fixed it).
Taurus Millenium Pro. Comes in .32 through .45 caliber. Small, lightweight and affordable.
Pretty! Can you FReepmail me order information? OldTax-lady will be sending us Contributions for Christmas, and Anoreth wants a pistol. She won’t be 21 for a while, but she can go to gun range in Monroe on her own after she’s 18 in March.
still Walmart’s fault.
“Men” is plural.
One or both might just maybe have been illegal aliens.
For the same reason that, in many reports, some female has "found herself pregnant" after just sleeping with a boyfriend, with seemingly no sexual activity involved. Just sleeping.
Other times, just walking down the the street, they 'fell pregnant', but no mention of what they tripped over.
Were any innocent bystanders struck by errant fire?
Story noted, move on please
With criminal records like that, and in Southern California, I’m really surprised they were able to get concealed carry permits.
And that one looks small enough that it'll be easy to use. The one I was looking at in the gun store was too big.
He sent me the info, and we can print it out.
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