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'PONZI SCHEME' AT CITI; SUIT SLAMS RUBIN (insiders reaped millions on toxic investments)
NY POST ^ | 12/4/08 | PAUL THARP

Posted on 12/04/2008 8:30:53 AM PST by Liz

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To: Blood of Tyrants

Rubin will tie this up in litigation forever.


21 posted on 12/04/2008 8:48:58 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Chance to join a stock holders suit?


22 posted on 12/04/2008 8:49:06 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Hey Zero you are a Marxist!)
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To: Liz

Robert Rubin - the prince of the amazing “Clintonomics” that brought us prosperity in the 1990’s, the poster boy for why you should trust the Democrats to run the economy. Hopefully the Republicans will wake up and start hammering the Dem’s on this.


23 posted on 12/04/2008 8:49:20 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: Liz

Just another cute little bankster prank that’ll be repackaged, and then we can bail them out of it. Nice. Dems will cry “politics”, airwaves will be flooded with American Idol reruns, and it will all be forgotten about in two weeks.

I think Bill Ayers created the prototype slogan for the money center banks. “America: What a country, guilty as sin, free as a bird”.


24 posted on 12/04/2008 8:51:28 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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To: WayneS

Maybe with a big black boy friend.


25 posted on 12/04/2008 8:51:50 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Boiling Pots

.....Damn Bush and Paulson straight to Hell.....

Apparently you are not paying attention and especially did not read this article.

W acted to expose the bad guys and force their hands. He merely showed the world the problem. He did not create it. History will show that the expose’ just before the election was shrewd political foresight

Clinton et al.....Robert Rubin, Jamie Gorelick etc are the unjustly enriched bad guys. If W did not expose the crimes Obama got elected it would never be exposed. The calamity would have happened in some form any way.

Your reflexive Bushbash is totally without merit


26 posted on 12/04/2008 8:53:48 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: Liz

First Obama scandal to reach courts. Is this a record?


27 posted on 12/04/2008 8:56:56 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Sarah Palin - High ideals on high heels)
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To: bert

One correction. Gorelick is actually two words.


28 posted on 12/04/2008 8:57:03 AM PST by nufsed
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To: WayneS

Which one has the most gangs? I want the least “posh” lol


29 posted on 12/04/2008 9:05:17 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: Major Matt Mason

I remember Rush mentioning during the Clinton years some risky manuever related to bonds (I think) that Rubin was doing to make the economy seem better than it was (or something like that).
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That was the bonds indexed to inflation ... like a variable rate note... you got the inflation rate plus x % ,, as long as inflation stayed low the gov’t made out... of course it helps that the gov’t has the ability to fudge inflation numbers by excluding inflationary items like food and energy..


30 posted on 12/04/2008 9:09:48 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Boiling Pots
>>I cannot believe there isn’t more outrage over this bailout.
 
The sheeple understand what they've been edumacated to understand.
 
 
 
"Must Consuuuuume"
 
 
 
Most are unable comprehend the simple, supply and demand, relationship between Oil, the Petrodollar, and the Dollar.
 
 
So the "bailout" fleecing is way over their heads; and that state, IMHO, has been achieved by design.
 
 
 

31 posted on 12/04/2008 9:18:44 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Liz; TigerLikesRooster; Travis McGee; M. Espinola; All
I say, ‘Line the bad guys up and shoot them down.’ Kind of like the French Revolution. Far worse things are coming down the pike. Like rioting and gun fights in the streets. It will look like South Central LA after cops were acquitted of beating Rodney King. I was working in Los Angeles and saw the riots happen live. Everybody had guns. People in the suburbs hid on roofs armed to the teeth to ambush looters . . .

I really tried and tried to warn people about Wall Street. But nobody listened. Now everybody will just to deal with the consequences. We were all raped by greedy bankers. Then they turned us over and did it again. And again. And they are still raping us. It seems most people are as stupid as shoes. Or rocks.

Don't quite understand what I mean about LA ____? Watch this "Dark Blue" DVD and learn something.

32 posted on 12/04/2008 9:32:26 AM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: bert; Boiling Pots
>>Your reflexive Bushbash is totally without merit
 
Unfortunately not true.
 
Google The Godfather of Subprime, and Bush Ambassador to the Netherlands - Roland Arnall.
 
Bush got conned by Arnall & Co. just like many other folks did.
 
Quack quack, waddle waddle....
 

33 posted on 12/04/2008 9:36:04 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Boiling Pots
Trillions to bail out people who personally earned hundreds of millions. Damn Bush and Paulson straight to Hell..........Even Pres Bush was willing to give the USofA away to Paulson and Bernanke.

G/S insiders are bailing out the very crooks who contributed to the economy's meltdown. G/S Paulson put his G/S henchman Neel Kashkari, to oversee the $700B bailout. Conflict of interest anybody?

........POS Paulson also wanted to exempt the bailout from any judicial, legislative, and regulatory review.......can you guess why?

GOLDMAN SACHS SCREWS US AGAIN Secy Pavelson told Congress bailout billions would be used for one purpose then the foxy, wily Pavelson changes horses in midstream and decides to use the billions for something else. Typical Wall Street chicanery. The heck with Congress enacting the bailout law for one use. Pavelson personally decides he and the G/S guys will use it for "something else."

As US citizens line up at soup kitchens and sell apples on street corners, Pavelson, Kashkari, and the G/S frat boys are cashing in bigtime......numbered offshore bank accounts, "parking" money at Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street entities; the wire-transfers must be burning up.

The late economist John Kenneth Galbraith blamed Goldman Sachs for policies causing the Great Depression of '29. In his book, The Great Crash, 1929, Galbraith, a key figure in JFK's admin, an entire chapter titled “In Goldman, Sachs, We Trust,” details the “large-scale corporate thimblerigging” that Goldman and other Wall Streeters practiced in the 1920s.

G/S frat boys at the highest levels of govt are now pulling the levers of power. Watching them operate, we know Goldman types promote their own interests relentlessly...........the rest of us be damned.

Heaven help us.

34 posted on 12/04/2008 9:48:03 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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" Golly Ben, bailing out hedges and other greedsters is hard work."

"Keep bailing, Paulson."

35 posted on 12/04/2008 9:51:42 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: bert
"W acted to expose the bad guys and force their hands. He merely showed the world the problem. He did not create it. History will show that the expose’ just before the election was shrewd political foresight."

ROFLOL!

36 posted on 12/04/2008 9:53:34 AM PST by penowa
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To: Liz
>>Shades of Enron.
>>Same scam used as Enron's CFO---Andy Fastow.
 
No surprise at all.
 
Some of the folks that facilitated Enron's systemic corruption ended up in the Sub-Prime industry;   and they facilitated those thieves with technology - just the same as they enabled Enron with it.
 
Without Software and Technology, Argent/Ameriquest Mortgage never would have been able to "Revolutionize" the mortgage industry.
 
 
 
BTW,  Citigroup acquired the rotting carcass of ACCH  (Aka Ameriquest, Aka Argent Mortgage) - specifically interested in ACCH's loan origination systems.
 
So Bon appetite, Crown Prince Abdula.  Choke on it.
 
 
 

37 posted on 12/04/2008 9:54:30 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: jersey117

Rubin is most infamous as a Clinton suckup.

When he left the admin he actually called the US Treasury (as a paid Enron factotum) to ask for a bailout——like the US Treasury was his personal piggy bank.


38 posted on 12/04/2008 9:58:48 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: Realism
Greenspan, 82, acknowledged under questioning that he had made a “mistake” in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest, would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and institutions.

Here's Greenspan's crucial error: BANKS DO NOT MAKE OPERATING DECISIONS.

Individual executives make decisions, and the decisions they made were for their own personal self interest, NOT for the long term interest of the company. The mistake was in assuming that executives care about what happens to the institution after they have taken the money and left. The banks had executives that were willing to make decisions that would cost OTHERS billions, as long as THEY got their bonus packages.

39 posted on 12/04/2008 10:00:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: bert
W acted to expose the bad guys and force their hands. He merely showed the world the problem. He did not create it. History will show that the expose’ just before the election was shrewd political foresight

W had 8 years to notice what was happening, and scream about what was coming. He could have devoted 15 minutes to it in every State of the Union address, and every White House press briefing. He didn't. The mess is HIS fault. It became HIS fault within a year of taking office and taking no effective action to head it off.

40 posted on 12/04/2008 10:04:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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