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Israel "Prepared To Attack" Iran Nuclear Plants
The Times ^ | December 4, 2008

Posted on 12/04/2008 8:44:54 AM PST by Strategy

Israel is drawing up plans to attack Iran's nuclear facilities and is prepared to launch a strike without backing from the US, it has been reported.

Officials in the Israeli Defence Ministry told the Jerusalem Post that while they prefer to act in consultation with the US, they were preparing plans that would allow them to act in isolation.

"It is always better to coordinate," a senior Defence Ministry official told the newspaper. "But we are also preparing options that do not include coordination."

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; geopolitics; iran; iraniannukes; israel; proliferation

1 posted on 12/04/2008 8:44:54 AM PST by Strategy
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To: Strategy

surprise


2 posted on 12/04/2008 8:46:08 AM PST by Rosemont
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To: Strategy

For the last few years, I’ve felt the target date for the strike would be this summer.


3 posted on 12/04/2008 8:48:35 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Strategy

Overdue.

Let’s light this candle before Iran decides to help AQ “mumbai” us somewhere here, with a nuclear signature.


4 posted on 12/04/2008 8:50:51 AM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Strategy

It is logical to assume that the strike will occur within the next two months or it will not happen until a critical point is reached where Israel has no other options.

Our current administration would be more likely to quietly cooperate than the next administration.


5 posted on 12/04/2008 8:50:53 AM PST by boxer21
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To: Strategy

“....is prepared to launch a strike without backing from the US, it has been reported.”.....

after our election....they just said: “To heck with US”.


6 posted on 12/04/2008 8:51:14 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: txflake; nuconvert; Dr.Zoidberg

Ping.


7 posted on 12/04/2008 8:51:35 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: rjp2005
I thought if OB was elected, they would strike before Jan 20. If McCain, anytime after Nov 4 with McCain and Bush giving the nod.

Before Jan 20, would let Bush be the bad guy, as in "It's Bush's fault."

If they don't do it soon, OB will do what he can to stop them and we'll have an apocalyptic maniac in control of nuclear weapons.

8 posted on 12/04/2008 8:53:16 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Strategy

Nothing is going to happen. Just wishful thinking, is all.


9 posted on 12/04/2008 8:58:26 AM PST by rahbert
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To: nufsed

When “preparing to attack” gets leaked in the press, to me that means 5-6 months.

If they were truly preparing to attack, it would have already happened this morning.

I believe Iran is planning something for Saudi Arabia this summer, which is why I think Israel wants to time their intervention right before that.


10 posted on 12/04/2008 9:03:44 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: rjp2005

I think OB will try to pressure them out of it.


11 posted on 12/04/2008 9:07:11 AM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed
Precisely.

As if a Hitlerian narcissist like Obama is going to give a rat's ear about what happens to Israel. Obama's best buddies Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright hate Jewish people, so why would Obama back Israel?

A hostile black racist and pathological liar like Barack Hussein Obama would let the Israelis die in a gigantic fireball before he would do something to defeat our enemies.

12 posted on 12/04/2008 9:07:43 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Strategy

Godspeed.


13 posted on 12/04/2008 9:11:39 AM PST by 444Flyer (Hellfighter-John 3:1-36)
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To: Rosemont

This article is probably iron-clad PROOF that they are NOT going to attack.

Barking dogs never bite.


14 posted on 12/04/2008 9:13:25 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: boxer21

I agree. Israel either acts preemptively in the next two months or reactively when a nuclear device is detonated on there soil.


15 posted on 12/04/2008 9:38:57 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: Strategy

16 posted on 12/04/2008 9:42:32 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

“There’s no such thing as global warming — but in Iran today...”


17 posted on 12/04/2008 9:52:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: iThinkBig

A reactive strike would be really ugly.

I suspect Israel would say “Let’s flatten ‘em all” and decide to nuke Damascus, Amman, Riyadh, Cairo, etc...and let the chips fall where they may.


18 posted on 12/04/2008 10:03:11 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: nufsed

Israel can strike with more than conventional weapons and likely will.


19 posted on 12/04/2008 10:09:04 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Camel Joe

I’m all for it.


20 posted on 12/04/2008 10:12:17 AM PST by nufsed
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To: RobRoy

I wouldn’t suggest you enter my house, my dog HAS done both. He only barks because he prefers cats to humans, they taste just like chicken...


21 posted on 12/04/2008 10:16:59 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: nufsed

I always get the image of Slim Pickens riding that nuke down from the B-52 in that movie.


22 posted on 12/04/2008 10:25:07 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: nufsed

Assuming he takes office, and/or continues in it...


23 posted on 12/04/2008 10:45:41 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: boxer21
Our current administration would be more likely to quietly cooperate than the next administration.

No, and no, sounds about the same whether from GW or BoB.

24 posted on 12/04/2008 10:56:55 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot

You are aware of course that the U.S. has sold jets capable of reaching Iran and return as well as recently selling bunker buster bombs to Israel.


25 posted on 12/04/2008 11:18:18 AM PST by boxer21
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To: rjp2005

we can hope it will change! LOL!


26 posted on 12/04/2008 11:23:42 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Camel Joe

a real guided missile.


27 posted on 12/04/2008 11:24:15 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Strategy

Must be for real since it got multiple threads


28 posted on 12/04/2008 11:26:16 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: MplsSteve

You are correct, VERY ugly as Israel would certainly use the Sampson Option. Israel is damned if they do and really damned if they don’t. The Democrats sweeping power here in the elections must be very stressful to the Israeli’s (minus the liberals over there of course).


29 posted on 12/04/2008 11:28:07 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: Rosemont

“Israel is drawing up plans to attack”

More horse S*%T entertainment

If that was truly the case ya wouln’t be hearing about it in any fassionable way. Much the same as Bush lied about Sadaams WMD’s. Which by the way, final shipment finally found it’s way to Canada in July.

I find find it more entertaining discussing The Truth myself. Now back to the Obamanation.............


30 posted on 12/04/2008 11:28:39 AM PST by CheezyChesster
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To: boxer21
well as recently selling bunker buster bombs to Israel.

Only the small ones that would require multiple hits in the same exact location to penetrate deep enough.

Planes I didn't know about, do you have a model?

31 posted on 12/04/2008 2:57:04 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot

This is the one I was referring to; I will defer to your likely more informed knowledge since I have been on the shelf for quite a spell.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/f15i.html


32 posted on 12/04/2008 3:11:48 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21
Check out our new F 22 Raptor.

From what I have read, the US refuses to give Israel the codes necessary to fly over Iraq, and since the instillation of new radar, I don't think they can fly over Turkey either.

33 posted on 12/05/2008 10:35:05 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot

The issue you raise I believe to be true. Yet the article indicates that while the Israelis prefer to coordinate their attack (radar codes) but that they could still launch an attack so they must have alternate plans.


34 posted on 12/05/2008 10:59:25 AM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21
so they must have alternate plans.

Israel would be foolish not to have alternate plans. When the six day war broke out, we had an agreement to defend Israel, but seemed to have lost the paperwork. We will never no the truth of what happened to our spy ship that Israel attacked several times.

35 posted on 12/05/2008 2:56:13 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot

The Israelis have an apparent rule to shoot first and ask questions later; that incident has always destressed me being an old sailor.

The Israelis’ adage may be to shoot first and explain or deny later; otherwise there may be no later.


36 posted on 12/05/2008 3:02:41 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21
The Israelis’ adage may be to shoot first and explain or deny later; otherwise there may be no later.

Despite all the stories regarding the USS Liberty, I doubt all the official lines. I have to believe the Liberty was supplying intel to someone, probably not friendly to Israel. There is no other logical reason for the attack, they could clearly identify the ship as American.

Don't forget we lied to Israel about providing support if they were attacked as a result of giving land for peace.

37 posted on 12/06/2008 12:54:59 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot

“Don’t forget we lied to Israel about providing support if they were attacked as a result of giving land for peace. “

I wasn’t aware of that.

The story surounding the sinking of that ship is murky. The ship was identified as American and was deliberately sunk, we know that. The why may never be known and may be as you say.


38 posted on 12/06/2008 1:03:54 PM PST by boxer21
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To: RobRoy
This article is probably iron-clad PROOF that they are NOT going to attack. Barking dogs never bite.

I beg to differ. A barking dog bit the sh** out of my leg once when I was about 15. Barking dogs do bite, rattling snakes do strike and hissing cats do scratch!

39 posted on 12/06/2008 1:47:34 PM PST by calex59
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To: boxer21
The story surounding the sinking of that ship is murky.

Wasn't sunk, but severely damaged. It was attacked more than once. I find it hard to believe Israel made a mistake, so there had to be another reason, for them to risk it.

Who said conspiracies will always out?

40 posted on 12/06/2008 3:35:14 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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