Posted on 12/04/2008 8:58:09 AM PST by Pyro7480
Dan Barker of the Freedom from Religion Foundation on December 1, 2008's Fox & Friends stated that the nativity scene represented 'hate speech' and 'a direct attack on good human values.'
What happened to live and let live?
It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion, dickwad.
“For GOD so loved the World.” Hey Dude is there any love in your doctrine?
Hate Speech and good human values?
Hate Speech comes from himself and Good values do not exist without GOD.
Catholic ping!
I saw this over my first cup of coffee this morning. Nobody will take his rantings seriously.
When I read this it occurred to me that liberals may be truly confusing “speech which is hateful” with “speech I hate”.
This is an example of how “hate speech” or “thought crimes” are riduclous and up to man’s own interpretation. They are simply un-Constitutinal by both violating privacy and free speech an of this concept also violates freedom of religion as well.
I am sure this same athiest group is willing to defend aspects of free speech in regards to sexual expression (even if perverse) among other types of expression as well but they specifically dis-like religion and want to label it as hateful.
So based upon his hatred of religion we are supposed to believe his law is based upon love?
You know, the media are responsible for the bitching, whining and crying of the malcontents in this country. Why even give these jerks a platform to vent their poison? It’s not newsworthy......except to the other malcontents and freaks
Dan Barker. Yeah. This guy proves my maxim that to be an atheist is to be morally, emotionally, and intellectually stunted.
This character is way beyond humbug! A nativity scene is “hate speech?!?!??!?!?!?!?” Every year at this time, all the nuts come out of the woodwork, having a cow about nativity scenes, Hannukah menorahs, etc. Some folks just plain don’t have a life.
Freedom from religion...sounds like Paul (Saul) on the road to Damascus doesn’t it? :) I wonder if zealots like this ever really think about why they despise Christianity so much.
Sounds good. Demons always react like this in viewing of Christ (whether just an image or words).
Honestly, some people really do nothing but waste valuable resources such as oxygen, food, and water that generally good and productive people could be utilizing...
If the nativity scene is “hate speech”, then the atheist sign which directly and clearly communicates that christians believe in slavery is “Terrorism”.
This was published very shortly after 9-11, before final death tolls were known.
Meanwhile, where are all the do-good Atheist hospitals? Atheist food banks?
The Lunatic Fringe
Raymond Rooney
How God brings good out of the midst of evil is one of the greatest testimonies of both His greatness and His goodness. No thing, event, or person is outside the capabilities of God to use in a way that will bring honor and glory to Himself and reaffirm to His people in particular, and the people of the world in general, His sovereignty and providence. Out of the rubble, horror, and calamity of the World Trade Center attack has come the reemergence of awareness by the American people of the reality and necessity of the God of our ancestors.
Since the attack, everywhere you look are storefront signs calling Americans to prayer, citing passages of Scripture, and appealing to God to bless our nation. From convenience stores, to fast food shops, to malls, and even larger industries and manufacturers, all are calling on Americans to pray and God to bless. The Friday after the attack I attended a local high school football game and before the contest began the school choir sang “God Bless America” and “Jesus Loves Me.” After that a local minister offered a prayer over the public address system and then the national anthem was played. No protests were heard. No complaints were turned in to the ACLU. Our President called the nation to a day of prayer and remembrance and while promising justice to the perpetrators of the attack continues to call on Americans to pray. The “7th inning stretch” on every televised professional baseball game I have seen of late has featured the singing of “God Bless America.” The Pledge of Allegiance has returned to the American public school and “one nation under God” has been recited by American schoolchildren with hands over hearts with pride and without fear or reservation. It took the deaths of nearly 6,000 people at the hands of evil men but Americans have remembered the God of our forefathers and are calling upon Him nearly in unison.
Perhaps the most interesting thing about all this is the rather deafening silence from all the civil libertarians and groups who have for so many years raised loud objections to the mixing of God and education and God and politics. Prayers led by students at graduation ceremonies or ball games are insidious violations of the separation of Church and State, they railed. The Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional because it contains the word “God.” Religion has no place in the realm of politics and new terminology was created to ostensibly brand people who brought their faith in God to the table of political discussion and ideology: “right wing fundamentalists.” We were told how dangerous they were. People like Gary Bauer and Pat Robertson headed up this evil group and were trying to enslave America through the implementation of religious belief and practice. We were told how powerful and clever these people were when Hillary Clinton told the world that all her husband’s sexual and political problems were caused by a “vast right wing conspiracy.” Liberal pundits on talk shows on television and radio warned America daily of the dangers of right wing fundamentalists who wanted to have creationism taught alongside Darwinism, voluntary prayer put back into schools, and voting guides passed out at election time informing people of candidates’ stances on these and other issues.
It is precisely organizations like the ACLU, People for the American Way, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and the Freedom from Religion Foundation who took the lead in bashing politically active and community oriented Christians calling us “the lunatic fringe” that are so amazingly quiet right now in the midst of a national resurgence of public expressions of both patriotism and religion. Why is this? The answer is obvious. Painfully so, to the aforementioned organizations. My understanding of a “lunatic fringe” is a group of people who constitute a small segment of the population who propose ideas that the vast majority of the populace finds not only untenable but ludicrous and dangerous. I think that since September 11th advocates of humanism and Church/State separation have found themselves to be in the rather uncomfortable position of being a tiny minority of people whose views have been revealed to be not only unscholarly but absurd and even dangerous. In effect, those who for years have made it their goal in life to rant and rave about the “right wing fundamentalists” have suddenly found out that it is they who are being judged by their fellow citizens to be a part of some wacko lunatic fringe. It is unfortunate that it took a national crisis to reveal what the true American way is but there is no doubt now that the vast majority of American citizens want and shall exercise the freedom we have to proclaim ourselves “one nation under God.” Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State fame has found out when push comes to shove Americans are united in their will to express their faith anywhere and anytime. School is not off limits to religious expression and neither is politics. And apparently, the Freedom from Religion Foundation has decided that the only freedom from religion the vast majority of Americans want is of the humanist kind.
These groups are silent now for two reasons. First, they all know it is in their best interests to lay low. Any shred of respectability and legitimacy they still cling to would evaporate instantly if they were to come forward propagating their anti-God, anti-religious agenda now. It would demonstrate just how far afield from the average American they truly are. They have been able to survive as long as they have because of apathy. As long as our boat wasn’t being rocked Americans were willing to listen to anything. Now that we have been attacked and thousands of lives have been lost the gravity of the situation has finally registered and our nation seems to be coming out of her religious slumber. We need God and are appealing to Him and are refusing to be restrained by “civil libertarians.”
However, a second and more telling reason for the silence from these groups is this. They have nothing to offer America in her time of crisis and need. They are morally and spiritually bankrupt. Their beliefs are such that they believe America’s political leadership should not call upon every citizen to pray to God for the families of those who lost loved ones on September 11. According to them our educators have no business leading America’s children in the Pledge of Allegiance. If the ideology they have been propounding for years is correct then more than 6,000 people died like animals, have been consigned to oblivion, and there is no hope of being reunited with them ever again. The only hope they can offer our children are statistical probabilities concerning the chance of being murdered by a terrorist. The circumstances in America have torn the shroud of legitimacy from their faces to reveal that they are morally and spiritually repugnant.
I wonder what it must be like to be on the way to work at the national office of People for the American Way or Americans United for Separation of Church and State? All the signs urging people to pray for our nation, reminding people of our national motto “In God We Trust,” newspaper articles and e-mails reminding all the schools and businesses across America to pause and recite the Pledge of Allegiance on a particular day and at a particular hour must really be bothersome. Do you suppose they instructed their children to protest or refuse to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance? Do they stop at all those businesses along the way to work to register their complaints about putting religious quips and quotes on their business signs? Are they calling up all the talk shows demanding an opportunity to excoriate Major League Baseball for playing “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch? No. They are hunkering down counting on the age-old saying, “this too shall pass.” They know better. After all...they would not like it at all if it were revealed and they were called what they always have been: “the lunatic fringe.”
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Atheist signs are hate speech.
I think it is time insane asylums were brought back into existence. They are SO desperately needed these days!
.....the nativity scene represented ‘hate speech’ and ‘a direct attack on good human values.’....
Good grief!....get a grip!
Nativity Scene “Hate Speech”?????? How is a scene of a mother and father awaiting the birth of their child or celebrating the birth of their child hateful?
The Truth causes their consciences to bother them. The “hate speech” is INTERNAL.
Romans 2:14-15
14 Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. 15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right
The man who’s “non-religious” antitheist bigoted signs said that “religion hardens hearts and enslaves minds”.
Projection. He’s ducking his OWN charges of hate speech.
Gee, these people fight God as if He actually existed. /sarc
It’s hate when someone steals that Christ child from the Nativity scene. But that’s not how the presstitutes report it.
and we all know the hypocicy of that, as a true believer in Darwinism, would despise homosexuality, and the other deviant behaviors, to a much greater degree, than the “hate” that these so called “humanists” and atheists, accuse “Christians” and other people of faith, of having.
They are all hypocrites with conflicting, if convenient, lies/arguments, trying to justify their headlong rush back into the muck of the primordial gene swamp...Less and less *human*, more and more animalistic, with every passing day.
Another thread was talking about a study that showed that liberals were clinically mad (insane),
and consistently engaged in victimology and projection.
The Christ Child was stolen from our church a few years ago. Our then Pastor was pissed. The word went around the neighborhood that Father Quinn was NOT AMUSED. The Baby Jesus was left on the church steps the next day.
You DO know why Christianity is the target of all this hate and opposition, don’t you?
Because, beign the truth, it’s the only REAL threat to the father of lies.
Strange title. Do they honestly believe Americans are not free to choose the religion of their choice? ....or to choose no religion at all? Delusional in the extreme.
Not to mention,mentally bankrupt.
Most insightful comment, and worth modifying for my tagline. The problem is that since liberals have no moral grounding outside themselves, they personalize everything. So "hate speech" laws become laws against "speech I hate", "freedom of religion" becomes "freedom for me to silence religions I don't like", and "free scholarly inquiry" becomes "freedom to push my agenda in schools". Once that happens, what happens to law? It is worthless. We need to kill the idea of subjective morals more than anything to make this country work.
Life’s tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.
Another thread was talking about a study that showed that liberals were clinically mad (insane),....
They are!....liberalism is a mental disorder.
You're missing the fine print. It may be called "Freedom from Religion Foundation", but that's a shortened form of "Freedom from Being Exposed to Christianity in the Slightest Foundation".
In 2004 I wrote a column on the desecration of a statue of the Virgin Mary at St. John’s the Evangelist in Cambridge MA by abortion supporters. (Fake blood, coat hangers, you get the idea)I also brought up the morbid parody of Christmas that Planned Parenthood launches with their “Choice on Earth” cards. This was called a “pseudo Christian attack on Planned Parenthood. This is the world turned upside down.
Yep. I’m quite sure these fanatics wouldn’t raise such a stink about a public display from any religion other than Christianity.
Freedom of Religion. How can some continue to attempt to block others right to practice religion in the name of Free Speech ? How can an atheist interfere in others affairs when you have a right to privacy?
Atheist's need to STFU. Just like most liberal (or hell ... opposing view points) they feel their way is the only way, and that everyone should follow it and there is no other alternative.
Why do I care? Being spiritual puts me in the cross hairs of Atheist's .. I still believe in a higher power ... And my Christian and Jewish background hates Atheists too ;-)
What happened to “Onward Christian Soldiers”? How come some of the FR religious fanatics who always tell everybody else how to live aren’t taking some action against this? Is it just easier to sit behind a keyboard and act sanctimonious?
It is hard to believe that anyone could actually say that with a straight face.
My hope is that one day pecker-heads like this hemorrhoid will no longer get anyone’s attention, no matter how hard they try. If they actually believed there was no GOD, they would have no cause. It’s just an attention-getter; disregard these maggots.
Atheists don't like adhering to contracts, they like to deal without liability, which gives them leverage when negotiating with Christians who they see as stupid sheep.
Agnostics hedge, pretending to be shepherds with the same concerns as sheep.
“Atheist Labels Nativity Scene ‘Hate Speech’’
Nope. “Hate the sin NOT the sinner” this gets Christianity off the hook.
this guy is just trying to get his 15 minutes when in reality he ain’t worth a second.
There is no freedom from religion in this country. That would infringe on the rights of the religious to practice their beliefs. That is prohibited.
Yep, that was my point.
Sooooo if someone puts up any display that DOESN’T portray religion does that constitute hate of religion?
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