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Italy: Plot to blow up Milan Cathedral
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Posted on 12/04/2008 1:04:23 PM PST by Frankusa

Two Moroccans arrested in Italy yesterday wanted to blow up the Milan Cathedral on Christmas.

They hoped an attack during the busy holiday would cost dozens of lives. This according to tapped phone calls, reports La Repubblica.

The two belonged to an Islamic terror cell which had been followed by the Italian police already for months...

Rachid Ilhami (31) and Abdelkader Ghafir (43) were arrested in Giussano, a city 25km away from Milan. The detectives gathered from tapped phone calls and confiscated computer files that the two also prepared attacks on a supermarket and a police bureau. They are arrested on suspicion of terrorism and eventual cooperation with al-Qaeda.

Ilhami had been living since he was ten in Italy. He is married and has two children. He worked as a blacksmith and in his free time worked in a center for PEACE ACTIVITIES, in the area of prime minister Silvio Berlusconi's villa, according to Corriere della Sera.


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1 posted on 12/04/2008 1:04:23 PM PST by Frankusa
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To: Frankusa

Tapped phone calls? Where is the ICLU looking out for the rights of these poor unfortunates?


2 posted on 12/04/2008 1:06:30 PM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Frankusa

Wanting to is one thing, I am curious if they had the means to do it or if it was just a plan.


3 posted on 12/04/2008 1:06:35 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Frankusa

Well well... islamothugs, peace activists... what’s the difference.


4 posted on 12/04/2008 1:06:46 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


5 posted on 12/04/2008 1:07:20 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Frankusa

Between Islmofascists and millitant gays no churches are safe. What a world we live in.


6 posted on 12/04/2008 1:07:58 PM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: Frankusa
The two belonged to an Islamic terror cell

I'm shocked!
7 posted on 12/04/2008 1:08:44 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: Frankusa

‘kay.

If even ONE western Cathedral is touched, take out that shoebox they worship in Mecca.


8 posted on 12/04/2008 1:09:35 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Frankusa
They hoped an attack during the busy holiday would cost dozens of lives.

Well, it's a Church in Europe, and it seats about 40,000, so they're probably about right when they say dozens. Maybe they should have found a bar with a soccer game on instead.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

9 posted on 12/04/2008 1:10:34 PM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Frankusa

10 posted on 12/04/2008 1:11:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Frankusa

Duomo di Milano (Milan Cathedral), Milan

"What a wonder it is! So grand, so solemn, so vast! And yet so delicate, so airy, so graceful!" --Mark Twain


The Duomo and an equestrian statue at sunset. Photo by Gianni D.


The Duomo in all its pointy, Gothic glory by night. Photo by waldopepper.

Milan Duomo
Il Duomo at Christmas 2001, before renovations. Photo © Angelo Cesare.

Milan Duomo in HDR
East side of the Duomo, with choir windows. Photo by Ben Zibble.

Milan Duomo under renovations  
Facade in September 2004 and facade as of July 2006. Left photo by the
disappointed author; right photo by Ben Zibble.


Roof of Milan Cathedral
Strolling on the roof of the second-largest Catholic cathedral in the world.
Photo by Dirk Huijssoon.


Milan Duomo interior
A view down Duomo's huge nave. Photo by Ben Zibble.


Great pillars, side aisle and side altar. Photo by Ben Zibble.


View of the choir. Photo by Dave Chiu.

Milan Duomo stained glass window
Choir window. Photo by Dysanovic.


The Duomo di Milano is one of the most famous buildings in Europe. It is a particularly large and elaborate Gothic cathedral on the main square in the city center of Milan, Italy. It is also the second largest Roman Catholic cathedral in the world.

History of the Duomo

The street plan of Milan, with streets either radiating from the Duomo or circling it, indicates that the Duomo occupied the most important site in Roman Mediolanum.

Saint Ambrose's "New Basilica" was built on this site at the beginning of the 5th century, with an adjoining basilica added in 836. When fire damaged both buildings in 1075, they were rebuilt as the Duomo.

In 1386 the archbishop, Antonio da Saluzzo, began the new project in a rayonnant Late Gothic style that is more characteristic of France than Italy. Work proceeded for generations.

The main spire was topped off in 1762 with a polychrome statue of the Madonna, to whom the Duomo and its predecessor have always been consecrated.

Even now, some uncarved blocks remain to be completed as statuary. Gothic construction on the rest of the Duomo was largely complete in the 1880s.

The Duomo has been under major renovations and cleaning for several years, obscuring the glorious facade with scaffolding. Works should be completed sometime in 2007.

Exploring Milan's Duomo

Milan's Duomo is the second largest Catholic cathedral in the world: only the cathedral of Seville is larger (St. Peter's Basilica in Rome doesn't count because it's not a cathedral). It is 157 meters long— 40,000 people can fit comfortably within.

The Duomo of Milan blurs the normal distinctions between Gothic and neo-Gothic, for the Gothic west front was begun in 1616 and completed 200 years later. Only in its details does it reveal its Baroque and Neo-Classical date. From 1900 some of the least Gothic details of the facade were replaced in a more Gothic style to designs of Giuseppe Brentano.

The roofline dissolves into openwork pinnacles that are punctuated by a grove of spires, topped with statues that overlook the city. The main spire is 109 meters high. These can all be investigated up close on a breathtaking walk on the roof.

The huge building is made of brick faced with marble from the quarries that Gian Galeazzo Visconti donated in perpetuity to the cathedral chapter. Its maintenance and repairs are complex.

The cathedral's five wide naves are reflected in the hierarchic openings of the facade. Even the transepts have aisles. The great windows of the choir are reputed to be the largest in the world.

The Duomo also contians many treasures that can be viewed by visitors, including ivories, sacred vases in gold and silver, vestments and tapestries, most of which have been denoted by noblemen and princes over the centuries.

Mark Twain, a greast fan of the Duomo, can take over the description (from Innocents Abroad) from here:

What a wonder it is! So grand, so solemn, so vast! And yet so delicate, so airy, so graceful! A very world of solid weight, and yet it seems ...a delusion of frostwork that might vanish with a breath!...

The central one of its five great doors is bordered with a bas-relief of birds and fruits and beasts and insects, which have been so ingeniously carved out of the marble that they seem like living creatures-- and the figures are so numerous and the design so complex, that one might study it a week without exhausting its interest...everywhere that a niche or a perch can be found about the enormous building, from summit to base, there is a marble statue, and every statue is a study in itself...

Away above, on the lofty roof, rank on rank of carved and fretted spires spring high in the air, and through their rich tracery one sees the sky beyond. ...(Up on) the roof...springing from its broad marble flagstones, were the long files of spires, looking very tall close at hand, but diminishing in the distance...We could see, now, that the statue on the top of each was the size of a large man, though they all looked like dolls from the street...

They say that the Cathedral of Milan is second only to St. Peter's at Rome. I cannot understand how it can be second to anything made by human hands.


Courtesy of zouhengfu.blog.sohu.com
11 posted on 12/04/2008 1:13:26 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Frankusa

Don’t they know Obama won.

All terrorism can cease now....


12 posted on 12/04/2008 1:13:40 PM PST by NeoCaveman (posting from the office of the bitter clingers)
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To: Frankusa
The guy has "lived in Italy since he was 10."

I guess he's just another "peaceful" Muslim wishing to share his own version of "Merry Christmas" with the faithful in Italy.

13 posted on 12/04/2008 1:14:21 PM PST by zerosix
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To: Owl_Eagle
Well, it's a Church in Europe, and it seats about 40,000, so they're probably about right when they saydozens.>

Off the top of my head, I'll guess you should drop one of those zeroes.

14 posted on 12/04/2008 1:16:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Pyro7480
Beautiful building! Is it as lovely inside?
15 posted on 12/04/2008 1:23:30 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: All
ARTICLE SNIPPET:

"Two Moroccans arrested in Italy yesterday wanted to blow up the Milan Cathedral on Christmas."

16 posted on 12/04/2008 1:26:02 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Churchillspirit

17 posted on 12/04/2008 1:32:55 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: All
Previously...

LIFE IN ITALY.com (ANSA): Milan - "TERROR SUSPECTS 'TARGETING ITALY'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The men are believed to have watched instructional films on terrorist attacks and researched methods on the Internet."ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police also seized the Peace Cultural Centre in the Lombardy village of Macherio, where Ilhami worked as a preacher, during Tuesday's operation. According to investigators, small groups of fundamentalists met at the centre in the evenings after the day's official sermons were finished.") (December 2, 2008)
Link

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18 posted on 12/04/2008 1:33:07 PM PST by Cindy
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To: annalex
I was at the Duomo two years ago and it was amazing, but St. Pete's was even more amazing. I am not Catholic, and not much of an art guru, but both churches were worth the time and money to visit. I especially liked walking up on the roof of the Duomo and looking at all the marble gargoyles and statues.

Living in the US (a country only being a little over two centuries old) it baffles the mind to think this structure took over five centuries to complete.

19 posted on 12/04/2008 1:36:23 PM PST by mickey finn
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To: Pyro7480
Thank you.

I love these old classic cathedrals.

20 posted on 12/04/2008 1:39:03 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Frankusa

Islamic

Why does this word keep coming up when terror cells are mentioned?


21 posted on 12/04/2008 1:40:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (NEVER FORGET TREASON!)
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To: Churchillspirit

I’ve been in il Duomo di Milano a few times. Yes, it is downright amazing both inside and out. I spent a good 8 hours there with my now wife (was girlfriend at the time).
I wish I knew all of the proper terminology, but the basement area has various treasures & Christian artifacts dating back to God knows when....there are also caskets (again, wrong term) of various Popes, priests, etc.

Just curious for those more familiar with Milan....wasn’t Mussolini “hung out to dry” near il Duomo? I could swear he was, but I forget all of the details.

So help me if those bastards harm so much as a brick in the road near this place let alone an innocent person....


22 posted on 12/04/2008 1:41:08 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Frankusa

Why are there never any plots to blow up the Al Asqa mosque which sits like a hemorrhoid on the Temple Mount?


23 posted on 12/04/2008 1:42:02 PM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: edh
I think Mussolini was hung in Rome from a lamp post. I did not spend eight hours at the Duomo, but I could have.
24 posted on 12/04/2008 1:46:47 PM PST by mickey finn
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To: edh

Ugh....sorry, not Popes....Archbishops...and the word I was looking for was sarcophagus, not casket :-P! Man am I dumb.


25 posted on 12/04/2008 1:47:41 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: 1rudeboy

I rudeboy, the cathedral was designed to accommodate 40,000 worshipers.[http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/milancath/duomo.html]
Owl_Eagle is correct: They probably would killed a lot more than dozens - had they been successful.


26 posted on 12/04/2008 1:51:42 PM PST by Frankusa
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To: Frankusa

I stand corrected. I’ve been in that cathedral a number of times, and there’s no way I can be convinced that it’ll fit 40,000—but that’s just my opinion.


27 posted on 12/04/2008 1:53:24 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Owl_Eagle

So true. . .


28 posted on 12/04/2008 1:56:07 PM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: edh

You were correct.

“Following his rescue, Mussolini headed the Italian Social Republic in parts of Italy that were not occupied by Allied forces. In late April, 1945, with total defeat looming, Mussolini attempted to escape to Switzerland, only to be captured and summarily executed near Lake Como by Communist Italian partisans. His body was taken to Milan where it was hung upside down at a petrol station for public viewing and to provide confirmation of his demise.”


29 posted on 12/04/2008 1:56:53 PM PST by mickey finn
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To: montag813
Why are there never any plots to blow up the Al Asqa mosque which sits like a hemorrhoid on the Temple Mount?

You may be thinking of the Dome of the Rock which is the more noticeable gold-domed building on the Temple Mount. A man named Yoel Lerner was sentenced to prison in 1982 for attempting to blow it up.

30 posted on 12/04/2008 2:00:58 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Pyro7480

Thank G-d they caught the guys before they did it!


31 posted on 12/04/2008 2:23:27 PM PST by tommix2
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To: Frankusa

But, it’s the Religion of Peace, donchaknow.


32 posted on 12/04/2008 2:34:36 PM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve been there and I can see where it would seat 4000. The experience of going there was marred by being constantly followed by pickpockets in the piazza and sidestreets.


33 posted on 12/04/2008 2:44:04 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: mickey finn

Mussolini was hanged at a gas station - Fina station to be exact - by his heels from a beam.


34 posted on 12/04/2008 2:48:21 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Frankusa
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"That's the second largest cathedral I've ever seen!"

35 posted on 12/04/2008 3:02:18 PM PST by john in springfield
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To: Frankusa

All humor on the cathedral’s size aside, it shows how thoroughly evil these people are. They’d like to blow up a cathedral AT CHRISTMASTIME, and murder hundreds of church-goers.

How pathetic and sick.


36 posted on 12/04/2008 3:04:07 PM PST by john in springfield
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To: annalex

My goodness, that is spectacularly gorgeous!


37 posted on 12/04/2008 3:12:39 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Frankusa
This according to tapped phone calls

Oh, no! They've invaded the privacy of these poor men!

38 posted on 12/04/2008 3:28:48 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: EyeGuy

39 posted on 12/04/2008 3:30:39 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: 1rudeboy
there’s no way I can be convinced that it’ll fit 40,000

Its main area is 14,000 square yards. You can fit three people standing in a square yard.

40 posted on 12/04/2008 3:41:57 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault
You can fit three people standing in a square yard.

Three? How about 15 in front of a Long Island Church of Wal Mart on Black Friday Holiday morning!

41 posted on 12/04/2008 3:44:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: Kirkwood
constantly followed by pickpockets

Ah, the quaint old customs of Europe!

I can see where it would seat 4000

They didn't sit, they stood. 40,000 would be no problem in that area.

42 posted on 12/04/2008 3:45:13 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Frankusa
Muslims are behind this, but Italy has a long tradition of native-born anti-clerical violence, especially in the 18th and 19th century.

Remember, everyone in Italy follows the Church, one half with a candle, the other half with a club!

43 posted on 12/04/2008 3:49:20 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Frankusa

Probably my favorite building in the world. The terrorists hate it, among other reasons, because its external facade is made up of 3000 statues of Catholic saints, so the building could never be converted to a mosque. I’m sure the logic was, well, we’re going to have to blow it up sooner or later.


44 posted on 12/04/2008 3:51:47 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.."-Daniel Henninger)
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To: edh
Just curious for those more familiar with Milan....wasn’t Mussolini “hung out to dry” near il Duomo? I could swear he was, but I forget all of the details.

It was at the Piazzale Loreto, which was then occupied by a large gas station and it today a large traffic circle in downtown Milan. It's about six stops north on the main Metropolitana subway line from the Duomo.

45 posted on 12/04/2008 3:56:45 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.."-Daniel Henninger)
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To: Revolting cat!
Three? How about 15 in front of a Long Island Church of Wal Mart on Black Friday Holiday morning!

Very true. They looked like such nice church-going folks, too. Full of Christmas spirit. I mean spirits.

46 posted on 12/04/2008 4:02:02 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’m just tellin’ ya’, I’ve been there . . . no way in the world to fit 40,000 people in there. Just no way.


47 posted on 12/04/2008 4:02:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Clemenza
Muslims are behind this, but Italy has a long tradition of native-born anti-clerical violence, especially in the 18th and 19th century. Remember, everyone in Italy follows the Church, one half with a candle, the other half with a club!

I think landmarks like the Duomos of Milan and Florence, Saint Peter's Basilica, St. Mark's in Venice, etc. etc., are universally recognized in Italy as a prime cultural heritage. My old boss in Italy (God rest his soul) was a longtime Trotskyite who told me that if he ever retired, he'd spend his days sitting atop the Duomo with a machine gun, waiting for the first grafitti writer to approach it with a spray paint can.

48 posted on 12/04/2008 4:02:50 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.."-Daniel Henninger)
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To: Frankusa

Islam is a scourge on humanity.


49 posted on 12/04/2008 4:44:13 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Our home unapologetically celebrates the birth of Jesus.)
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To: Frankusa

Heck if religious buildings aren’t sacrosanct to these wackos... why don’t we just get it over with and nuke that black stone they seem so fond of?


50 posted on 12/04/2008 5:02:32 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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