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Bobby Jindal and the GOP Donít Believe in Evolution
US NEWS ^ | 12-4-08 | Farell

Posted on 12/04/2008 7:05:01 PM PST by Wegotsarah.com

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's recent trip to Iowa, where they hold those presidential caucuses every four years, leads me to suspect he may share the media speculation that he could be the Next Great Thing in the Republican Party.

It also reminded me how Jindal signed a dumb and devious bit of legislation last summer, allowing local school districts to promote alternative (i.e., religious) doctrines in their science curriculums when it comes to evolution.

Jindal is obviously one bright guy. How can he equate ancient creation myths with the hard facts of physics and biology?

One might think that the Republicans learned something from the drubbing they took in the 2006 and 2008 elections. But like Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee (and John McCain in 2008), Jindal is apparently happy to cater to the religious right, even if it means teaching superstition in the classroom


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I've posted a series of articles on this effort to unfairly demonize conservatives as "bible tumbers"- because I saw absolutely no evidence of it in this election.

One of the Obama/Dem/socialist storm troopers, who obviously lurks on FR, wrote this on my Sarah Palin message board:

"This site is brilliant satire. I applaud you, sir! You have those poor, deluded saps over at freeperville fooled, but I can tell...What they fail to recognize is that time is on our side. The younger generations overwhelmingly support gay marriage, abortion rights, stem cell research, universal healthcare, etc. All we have to do is wait. The republican base is dying off. Every day, more old, white christians die while younger brown people, athiests, women, etc get to vote. Are they going to vote Republican, the so-called party of God? Hell no! Republicans only have themselves to thank for systematically alienating every single person in this country who is not white, rich and Christian (evangelical preferred). That base is dying..."

Obviously, the propaganda message is orchestrated from on high-as I see this same theme in the comment sections of many websites. To you lurking storm troopers, so much for reasoned debate. GOD save us from your America.

1 posted on 12/04/2008 7:05:01 PM PST by Wegotsarah.com
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To: Wegotsarah.com

They hate GOd.

They hate America.

Hate is the creed of the left.


2 posted on 12/04/2008 7:07:57 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Nothing wrong with discussing the other perspectives so kids know what’s out there.


3 posted on 12/04/2008 7:09:43 PM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

That poster is a moron.

The only thing he may be right about vis a vis younger generations is gay marriage. Polls have shown younger voters more pro-life than their parents. The baby boomer generation is by far the pro-choice generation out there.


4 posted on 12/04/2008 7:09:47 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Looking at Democrats, I see no evidence of evolution. De-evolution? Absolutely.

5 posted on 12/04/2008 7:10:18 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Hey WGTS! Be of good cheer!

Always remember...

The greatest of all weapons of the Dark Lord is despair.

6 posted on 12/04/2008 7:10:23 PM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Wegotsarah.com

I believe in God and evolution.


7 posted on 12/04/2008 7:11:12 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Wegotsarah.com
How can he equate ancient creation myths with the hard facts of physics and biology?

The same way our founders did when they wrote that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. BTW, molecules to man evolution doesn't even come close to qualifying as "the hard facts of physics and biology".

8 posted on 12/04/2008 7:11:30 PM PST by DrewsDad
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To: Wegotsarah.com
One might think that the Republicans learned something from the drubbing they took in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Could it be that Republicans find that the quest for power is not as important as the quest for truth?

9 posted on 12/04/2008 7:11:39 PM PST by Liberal Bob (looneyleft.com)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

A lot of us believe in evolution, it doesn’t negate belief in God. As C.S. Lewis said, Science teaches us how God created the world, the bible teaches us why.


10 posted on 12/04/2008 7:12:26 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Jindal is obviously one bright guy. How can he equate ancient creation myths with the hard facts of physics and biology?

exorcism to Voodoo maybe????

11 posted on 12/04/2008 7:12:33 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Bobby Jindal and the GOP Don’t Believe in Evolution

NOBODY with any brains or talent believes in evolution.

12 posted on 12/04/2008 7:13:07 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Wegotsarah.com

He hasn’t yet dealt with who it was that defeated prop 8 in California.


13 posted on 12/04/2008 7:14:59 PM PST by marron
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To: Wegotsarah.com

“Following high school, Jindal attended Brown University, graduating with honors in biology and public policy.[7] Although he had thought of a career in medicine or law and was accepted by Harvard Medical School and Yale Law School, he chose to pursue a political career. He received a master’s degree in political science from New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar.”

I’m about, hmmm, 100% certain Bobby Jindal is smarter than this guy. Or Obama for that matter. Obama took BS law classes in college, aka fluff by liberal professors.


14 posted on 12/04/2008 7:15:03 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Well? Have you seen what the Democrats elect to office down there? I wouldn’t either.
15 posted on 12/04/2008 7:15:31 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: mysterio
I believe in God and evolution.

And its not that hard.
16 posted on 12/04/2008 7:15:37 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: mnehrling

Excellent point. No reason for “Evolution” and “God” to be mutually exclusive.


17 posted on 12/04/2008 7:17:48 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Wegotsarah.com

One thing is clear, the evolutionists don’t have the foggiest idea Who they are railing against! God will have the last laugh on them!

Proverbs 1:25-33

“But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:

They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.”


18 posted on 12/04/2008 7:18:29 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: Chairman of the Bard
Excellent point. No reason for “Evolution” and “God” to be mutually exclusive.

Unless you're an Islamist.

19 posted on 12/04/2008 7:20:30 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Arkinsaw

Nope. Work in biochem/molecular bio as well.


20 posted on 12/04/2008 7:20:59 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Ditto, there are a lot of us...


21 posted on 12/04/2008 7:22:59 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Evolution is a failed theory at this point and has no place being taught as science anymore than the “sun is a pile of burning coal” theory that predated nuclear fusion. Like most other parts of the liberal faith any attempt to engage in scientific debate is met with intellectual witch burning. The left is systematically conducting scorched earth tactics against anyone who does anything other than mouth their atheist dogma. There is little point in getting into a detailed analysis of the science liberals love to ignore to maintain their own worldview, but anyone who studies both sides of issues like evolution or climate change with a scholarly perspective soon realizes that the entrenched theories do not adequately explain the data.


22 posted on 12/04/2008 7:23:10 PM PST by Mr.Grumble
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To: mysterio

I believe in GOD and HIS word, including the story found in Geneses. I believe that the theory of evolution is the devils antitheses for the creation story. Just say’ in. ;-)


23 posted on 12/04/2008 7:24:21 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Wegotsarah.com
What they fail to recognize is that time is on our side

This idiot clearly doesn't realize that time is on the side of the Christians, who actually procreate instead of murdering their offspring. The pro-homosexual, stem cell researching, brown skinned atheists are aborting all the future socialists.

24 posted on 12/04/2008 7:25:41 PM PST by Tidbit (What's black and white, and red all over? The new administration.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
All we have to do is wait.

Fine. Shut up and wait then. As long as y'all shut up.

25 posted on 12/04/2008 7:26:06 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Tidbit

>The pro-homosexual, stem cell researching, brown skinned atheists are aborting all the future socialists.

I used to think that would be enough to wipe them out too, but I no longer believe this since Obama was elected. The main reason why is because Christians in the majority are raising their children with values just like the fallen, sinful world. You can’t tell most Christian children apart from the non-Christian children anymore, except for a minority of homeschoolers and those who quietly teach their children the Word and the power of prayer. They go to the same schools, they watch the same sinful movies and tv shows, they listen to the same worldly music, they wear the same revealing clothes instead of modest clothing, etc.

As long as Christian children are being raised with the teachings of atheists they’ll be susceptible to “Government is the answer” solutions put forth by the socialists and communists.


26 posted on 12/04/2008 7:30:44 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: mnehrling

I believe in God, that he created the world and everything in it — did it His way...and didn’t ask for my advice or permission.


27 posted on 12/04/2008 7:31:49 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Scientific facts, like Global Warming? I'm so sick of these intolerant bastards who degrade everybody who doesn't think like them and then have the stones to call others “intolerant”.
28 posted on 12/04/2008 7:35:19 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
The younger generations overwhelmingly support gay marriage, abortion rights, stem cell research, universal healthcare, etc.

Yeah, and then they grow up (hopefully).

Immature, inexperienced, foolish young people DO believe a lot of stupid crap.

29 posted on 12/04/2008 7:35:20 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Liberal Bob

Could it be that Republicans find that the quest for power is not as important as the quest for truth?
_________________________________________________
Uh, no.


30 posted on 12/04/2008 7:35:28 PM PST by soupcon
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To: doc1019
Believe it or not, the creation story is an allegory for evolution, in my opinion.

Jesus spoke in parables. The Bible is written in allegory.

I think the creation story tells us that the self realization we have is both a blessing and a curse. Your cat still lives in the Garden of Eden. You do not, because you are aware that you are alive and will someday die. So every sickness you have and every pain you feel reminds you of your mortality. When your cat feels pain, it does not worry about death, getting older, getting sicker, etc. But since you have evolved a more complex prefrontal cortex, you can never experience the "ignorant" peace that most other animals feel by default.

It's actually a beautiful explanation of what it means to be human. The fact that it was written by ancient man who knew nothing of evolution is quite amazing.

Religion and science are not at odds, and the continuous feuding is unnecessary and upsetting.
31 posted on 12/04/2008 7:35:36 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

I’m one of them there crazy bible literalists. If God said he created the whole thing in six days and propped his feet up on the seventh, who am I to argue. If the firsts verses of the Bible are incorrect, the whole bible is suspect. Believe the first verse or forget the rest and believe whatever fits your lifestyle.

Whatever floats your boat.


32 posted on 12/04/2008 7:39:56 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Bobby Jindal and the GOP Don’t Believe in Evolution

Good, another reason to vote for him.


33 posted on 12/04/2008 7:40:07 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: doc1019

I also believe that the Bible is the literal truth, word for word. Some things were said in parables, but that isn’t a license for us to read whatever we want into it to fit modern secular humanism.


34 posted on 12/04/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by Mr.Grumble
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To: mysterio

Jesus didn’t always speak in parables. Not all the Bible is allegory.

“Study to show thyself approved, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

The Bible has different dispensations that we need to study to understand the ways of God. Not all passages are addressed doctrinally to Christians or have an application in this age of grace. Some passages do.

In depth studying and rightly dividing these dispensations is what God wants the Christian to do to understand His Word.

Evolution is the johnny come lately approach to understanding the foundation of the universe and world. The really fascinating story is in between the covers of the most incredible Book ever written.


35 posted on 12/04/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: mysterio

Religion and science are not at odds, and the continuous feuding is unnecessary and upsetting.
Totally agree with you my friend. Well said.


36 posted on 12/04/2008 7:41:44 PM PST by sonic109
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To: Oztrich Boy

You can believe in evolution and god, just not the God of the Bible. Biblically, the two concepts are incompatible.


37 posted on 12/04/2008 7:42:18 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Wegotsarah.com

I don’t see why christains can’t believe in both. I’m a christain and I figure God had to create the earth somehow and evolution is probably how he did it.


38 posted on 12/04/2008 7:42:56 PM PST by lnzog (They want your money)
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To: Mr.Grumble

Okfine. :-(


39 posted on 12/04/2008 7:43:08 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019
I’m one of them there crazy bible literalists. If God said he created the whole thing in six days and propped his feet up on the seventh, who am I to argue. If the firsts verses of the Bible are incorrect, the whole bible is suspect. Believe the first verse or forget the rest and believe whatever fits your lifestyle.

It's not incorrect. It's an allegory, very much like the parables that Jesus told.
40 posted on 12/04/2008 7:43:40 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Mr.Grumble

Some things were said in parables..
Yes , the creation story for example.
It was a way people with zero sense of science could explain what they saw in nature. God created the universe , evolution was the method He used. It wasen’t literally done in days.


41 posted on 12/04/2008 7:45:08 PM PST by sonic109
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To: deannadurbin
Not all the Bible is allegory.

Agreed. But the fact that Genesis lines up almost exactly with evolution leads me to believe it is allegory.

I think it's important for us to understand the greater message : that animals who are not self aware are incapable of sin, but we must guard against sin since we have developed higher intellect. It's a blessing and a curse. That's the take-home message.
42 posted on 12/04/2008 7:46:58 PM PST by mysterio
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To: sonic109

>It wasen’t literally done in days.

But that’s what it says.

Jesus confirmed it when He spoke of Adam and Eve.

To doubt Genesis is to call Jesus a liar. Since Jesus was “God manifest in the flesh” then to doubt Genesis is to doubt God too.


43 posted on 12/04/2008 7:48:21 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: Wegotsarah.com

God? Isn’t that the same fella Obama allegedly believes in?


44 posted on 12/04/2008 7:48:41 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Wegotsarah.com
They're trying to pigeon-hole Bobby Jindal already. It's easier to do that than to debate him--because the man is brilliant and will make most Dem-atheists look stupid.

The GOP would be smart to make Jindal and Palin the faces of the party. Of course, the GOP is not smart...
45 posted on 12/04/2008 7:49:00 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: mysterio

Okfine.


46 posted on 12/04/2008 7:49:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: sonic109

yes, they were days with light in the morning and darkness in the evening.


47 posted on 12/04/2008 7:50:45 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: soupcon

I’m glad you said it. I was too busy cleaning off the water I spit on my screen.


48 posted on 12/04/2008 7:50:47 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: sonic109

Of course it was done in days. There is absolutely no Biblical reason to believe it was done in any span of time other than that which God stipulated. God is all powerful, He can create a mountain in an instant even if by our measure and science it would take untold eons. God certainly didn’t use evolution to do anything since that theory is illogical and doesn’t fit into the evidence (fossile record) that we’ve discovered.


49 posted on 12/04/2008 7:54:29 PM PST by Mr.Grumble
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To: deannadurbin
If you believe in the legitimacy of the story of Lot and Lot's wife, then you must necessarily believe in the legitimacy of the tradition behind that story ~ to wit, Little Red Man, Herb Woman and Reindeer Man.

So, how you stand with Santa Claus?

50 posted on 12/04/2008 7:55:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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