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NYT: Make The Mormons Walk To Wal-Mart
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/05/2008 3:46:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

In the social circles of the New York Times editorialists, it's OK to have one kid. Two is pushing the envelope. Three or more is tacky, and a threat to the survival of the planet.

That being so, there's really no reason to let any car bigger than a Prius be built. Doing so just encourages the unenlightened to overbreed. And so it is that in its editorial of today, the Grey-but-barren Lady suggests that as a condition of the Detroit bailout, "Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commiecontrolfreaks; envirowhackos; eugenics; hasidicjews; lifehate; mormon; mormons; nyt; nytimes; peoplehate; populationcontrol; socialengineering; suvs
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 3:46:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Make the Mormons walk ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 12/05/2008 3:47:05 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

3 posted on 12/05/2008 3:50:09 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Eugenics Auto company


4 posted on 12/05/2008 3:51:10 AM PST by badpacifist ("Blessings come from God and He don't bless what he is against" ...Mrs Ray Charles)
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To: abb

Do you really need a backseat? ;-)


5 posted on 12/05/2008 3:55:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Why are you posting pix of planet-killing social criminals?

Off to ZPG camp with them, to git thar mahnds raht!!

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6 posted on 12/05/2008 3:55:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nice looking family. I guess my sister and I (she has 4) and I have three will be in the hurt locker in a few years when we won’t be able to buy a vehicle to comfortably fit the family. My brother and his wife only have 1 child so far so he at this moment would be ok. Now I 100 percent want the automakers to not get the bailout. Before I was not sure which way we should go...this cemented my decision.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 3:57:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Do you really need a backseat?

The back seat is for hauling planetocidal breeder larvae. Off with their heads!! Zero population growth! Gaia forever!

Unless they're gay, or Democrats, or have otherwise socially redeeming features.

Nuke the straight baby humans!

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8 posted on 12/05/2008 3:59:31 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date.”

Isn’t the idiea of a bailout for the Big 3 to help them survive?
Then forcing them to produce vehicles that no one is willing to buy hardly seems like an intelligent choice. Oh sorry we were talking about liberal/socialist weren’t we.....


9 posted on 12/05/2008 3:59:51 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Adam-ondi-Ahman; America always; Antonello; Arrowhead; asparagus; ...
I have some friend that decided on two small cars instead of one big one.

They say that since it is very seldom they are all going to the same place at the same time, it was actually cheaper then running one big car all over.

10 posted on 12/05/2008 4:00:35 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Do you really need a backseat? ;-)

Not at my age...

11 posted on 12/05/2008 4:02:00 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: napscoordinator
I guess my sister and I (she has 4) and I have three will be in the hurt locker in a few years when we won’t be able to buy a vehicle to comfortably fit the family.

Nah. A three- or four-year-old Pacifica or other biggish vehicle (remember station wagons -- the original kid-haulers? still around) will always be available at a reasonable price and will last 150,000 miles minimum, until a Republican relief Congress shows up to push-broom away the remnants of Obammunism.

12 posted on 12/05/2008 4:02:54 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: meyer

LOL. My nominee for line ‘of the morning!


13 posted on 12/05/2008 4:03:07 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mark Finkelstein is a nut. No-one is saying that SUVs and vans don’t have a purpose, but the FACT is that SUVs and trucks have been abused — how many people have you seen in NYC that just use these monsters to get from Queens to Jersey city? Like everything in life, it has a purpose. SUVs are great for outdoorsmen, farmers, hunters, rangers etc. But for city driving, small cars make the most sense.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 4:03:17 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: meyer

LOL!


15 posted on 12/05/2008 4:03:39 AM PST by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: lentulusgracchus

What would happen to the price of used vans and SUVs if new ones aren’t being built?


16 posted on 12/05/2008 4:04:17 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: Cronos

“No-one is saying that SUVs and vans don’t have a purpose.”

Actually, the Times IS saying they don’t have a purpose. They are suggested they be phased OUT: meaning no more would be produced.

I’ll let Finkelstein know you think he’s a nut. Easy to do since I am Finkelstein.


17 posted on 12/05/2008 4:06:08 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: Cronos

As an SUV owner myself (yes, I am eeevil) may I say it is not about ‘purpose’ or ‘sense.’ It is about choice and the freedom of the market place. Any American, who has the coin to pay, should be able to drive whatever they want...when they want. If I can make the payments, insure it, and buy gas ITS MY CHOICE whether I drive my tank up the side of a mountain or five minutes to the grocery store. Its that slippery slope...I trully believe our freedoms are interlated. Take away one (choice of vehicle) and it ‘slides’ into a another take away.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 4:08:39 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (PA is a banana republic without the great weather to actually grow bananas.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Please just fill out this questionnaire the New York Times has prepared, with a few simple questions about your religious beliefs and voting habits, and the paper will let you know within 14 days whether you will be permitted to keep your SUV ;-)


19 posted on 12/05/2008 4:10:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: abb
That East German Trabant polluted more than a whole fleet of SUVs! It had a smokey 2-stroke engine and blew smoke all over the street. They have banned new registrations on them all over Europe so they are almost completely gone now. The ones you still see are ones that have been retrofitted with Volkswagen engines - something they stopped doing when the cars fell apart under the additional stress of 'all that horsepower'.


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20 posted on 12/05/2008 4:13:16 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I used to have an Expedition when all kids were at home. Downsized to a used Explorer (that got wrecked...I loved the Explorer). Due to finances and having to immediately replace the Explorer, I got an extended body Chevy Trailblazer (a lease). Husband is trying to talk me into a 'car' (ha!) when the lease is up...I am (seriously) looking at Tahoes or Explorers. Nothing smaller. Period. Talk that NYTimes!

And I don't anyone telling me about 'sense' and 'purpose.' I'LL DRIVE WHAT I CAN AFFORD!

21 posted on 12/05/2008 4:15:43 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (PA is a banana republic without the great weather to actually grow bananas.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Limos and taxis should be the first to go.


22 posted on 12/05/2008 4:15:52 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Cronos

Mark Finklestein may be a nut, but he sounds more like a nosey old woman leaning across a fence. What a couple does in the bedroom is none of his business. He needs to get back to worrying about where the neighbors dogs are pooping and leave the children alone.


23 posted on 12/05/2008 4:18:21 AM PST by healy61
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To: abb

24 posted on 12/05/2008 4:18:56 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“”Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date.””

Does the Times actually use punctuation like that? If so it’s in worse shape than I thought. A plural “s” gets no apostrophe.

Signed - the Serif Patrol.


25 posted on 12/05/2008 4:19:14 AM PST by RoadTest (By their fruits shall ye know them.)
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To: abb
I think my old Al Gore image needs updating.

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There. That's better. :)

26 posted on 12/05/2008 4:21:31 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If you eliminate the backseat, you’ll eliminate a lot of the children, right there!


27 posted on 12/05/2008 4:23:34 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Oh, please.

The NYT might have not thought through the implications of phasing out vans and SUVs, but the premise of this article is misleading and inflammatory.

28 posted on 12/05/2008 4:23:46 AM PST by jude24
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ARGHH!

Since I am Mark Finkelstein, I can confirm that he was writing with tongue planted firmly in cheek. I was satirizing the views of the New York Times, not endorsing them! The article is a cross-post from NewsBusters, which is dedicated to combating liberal media bias, and the Times editorial was a prime example of it.


29 posted on 12/05/2008 4:24:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: Bon mots
Now that's funny.

0be looks to be enjoying curing the AGW.

30 posted on 12/05/2008 4:24:11 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Congress could consider demanding that Detroit simply phase out S.U.V.’s and vans by a certain date.”

The NYT has shown exactly why the bailout is a bad idea; Congress has no more business designing and selling motor vehicles than it does telling us how many children we should have. Can you imagine a car designed and built by a bureaucrat? In concept it would be fuel efficient, cheap to buy, environmentally friendly and come only in earth tones so as not to offend the eye. In practice, it would be over budget, unreliable, behind in production, sold at a loss, and prone to randomly burst into flames. It would make Yugo’s look like Bentleys.


31 posted on 12/05/2008 4:24:17 AM PST by Spok (Now is the time to cling to faith and freedom, while we still can.)
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To: jude24

That’s what satire is intended to do. Cf., A Modest Proposal.


32 posted on 12/05/2008 4:25:31 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I am buying another firearm today... and more ammo!

LLS


33 posted on 12/05/2008 4:26:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: Cronos
Show me in the US Constitution where you or any other eco-nazi has the right to demand anyone buy or use anything specific. Wars have been fought for less... and if your side keeps this up... that is exactly what you will get. How will that affect your precious ecology?

LLS

34 posted on 12/05/2008 4:30:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: napscoordinator

No need to worry. Your next vehicle will be the TWOCAR. It has eight wheels and comes in two identical parts.


35 posted on 12/05/2008 4:30:28 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
A Modest Propsal this is not. What worked about that satire was that it was so over the top, yet the logic still worked.

Nor were there any indications that this piece is satire.

36 posted on 12/05/2008 4:31:54 AM PST by jude24
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To: lentulusgracchus

My Uncle Bernie, who had 11 kids, kept an old Checker Marathon Limosine going for decades past it’s expiration date. The thing had four rows of seats, with two front doors and one door, on alternating sides, for the next three rows. With four kids on a seat, he had room for two hangers-on.

When that thing pulled up, you knew you were in for a good time.


37 posted on 12/05/2008 4:32:51 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Cut off the groceries to New York..... truckers boycott NYC


38 posted on 12/05/2008 4:33:04 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: Cronos

Abused?!??!?!

You sound like a libtard.

If a person can afford to buy, fuel and park an SUV in a city then they should damned well be able to. I fought for their freedom to do so.


39 posted on 12/05/2008 4:33:52 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Cronos

“...how many people have you seen in NYC that just use these monsters to get from Queens to Jersey city?”

None actually as I haven’t been to Queens, or Jersey City, but other than the part about Finkelstein being a nut I have to agree with your post on the matter of purpose.

What I have observed is many >feel< more secure in the larger SU Vehicles. It happened to my wife after a Truck pulling a 53ft Trailer ran over her car on the way to work one day. Long story to describe, so I won’t, but at the time I had already noticed many people who really didn’t need the off road capabilities of SUV’s were buying them primarily for the “security” they felt driving the larger vehicles. They were buying them as self defense.

I cannot blame them for wanting such security after the discussion in our house after my wife’s car was crushed under the trailer of the truck the driver had made the illegal, and downright stupid Left turn in front of her from the far right lane. She was genuinely scared to drive a conventional sized sedan again, and wanted the security of a larger vehicle.

We decided to stick with the conventional sized automobiles we favor the past twenty years or so regardless of the accident, simply because the particular car we buy is quite safe, well constructed as proven by the fact that only her car was damaged, not her.


40 posted on 12/05/2008 4:34:42 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: jude24

The first paragraph wasn’t a clue?

“In the social circles of the New York Times editorialists, it’s OK to have one kid. Two is pushing the envelope. Three or more is déclassé, and a threat to the survival of the planet.”

Or the reference to the Times as the “Grey-but-barren Lady”?


41 posted on 12/05/2008 4:35:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If you have to explain something that obvious, the best course of action is to smile and back away slowly, keeping close watch on the person’s hands...


42 posted on 12/05/2008 4:36:05 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: Bon mots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant


43 posted on 12/05/2008 4:36:43 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
No. It only clues you in that this is a rant. A plausible one, at first, but a little digging makes you realize that Newsbusters is hypersensitive.

The end result is that someone - and it isn't the NYT - lost credibility as a result of this piece.

44 posted on 12/05/2008 4:38:47 AM PST by jude24
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To: Cronos
Mark Finkelstein is a nut. No-one is saying that SUVs and vans don’t have a purpose, but the FACT is that SUVs and trucks have been abused — how many people have you seen in NYC that just use these monsters to get from Queens to Jersey city? Like everything in life, it has a purpose. SUVs are great for outdoorsmen, farmers, hunters, rangers etc. But for city driving, small cars make the most sense.

That really isn't the issue. What is important is who gets to decide what kind of car I drive, me or the government. Next it's how big a house I get to live in. Then how many kids I'm allowed to have. And on and on.

45 posted on 12/05/2008 4:39:45 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I love my cruiser!!


46 posted on 12/05/2008 4:40:32 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

I’m reporting you to algore even as we speak ;-)


47 posted on 12/05/2008 4:42:07 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: abb
I've actually ridden in Trabants.
Even scarier was the Polish "Maluch" - but the scariest of all was riding in the back seat of an original 1960's Morris Mini. I felt like I was weaving through traffic while sitting on an invisible roller skate.

I spent a lot of time in Central and Eastern Europe.

48 posted on 12/05/2008 4:42:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Congress, hardly blameless in this crisis, must not allow that to happen. For starters, it must demand that the three companies’ top executives resign. Only new management can enforce the deep cultural change needed to overhaul the industry...

Well, since the New York Times is also a failing business in a failing industry, shouldn't Congress demand that the New York Times' top executives resign? Surely only new management can enforce the deep cultural change needed to overhaul the newspaper industry...

49 posted on 12/05/2008 4:42:56 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
...the Grey-but-barren Lady...

Mark, the color is spelled "gray", not Grey, which is a name.

50 posted on 12/05/2008 4:43:10 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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