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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: maineman
Posted this on another thread.... Just a reminder that those not in the battle can do battle by praying.....One Nation Under God!

My ancestors were involved in that civil disobedience we call “the Revolution”. As dad an I were discussing what is happening and what will happen in front of a nice warm fire last night, he said:
“Do you suppose that Daniel and Michael sat discussing the what was happening and what might happen in front of their hearths? Were they concerned...frightened? I'm sure they prayed with their families.
Then they took action”:
They both signed the Bradford Accord and sent it to their governor. When that didn't help, they joined up, Daniel leaving his wife, week old son, and crops in the fields, spent the winter at Valley Forge (visited with his German relatives of Christmas Eve. Michael went to Fort Pitt. They fought for this Constitution, and I'll be Dmmmmmd, if I'll allow others to trample it without a fight. No matter what the future brings.......So let's pray as their wives and families did around our hearths......Pray with all our hearts that We the People win this battle. God be with those in the front lines today

Pray

101 posted on 12/05/2008 7:57:20 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: jersey117

Richardson (speaking in Spanish) says obama would be good for the hispanic community because he himself is an immigrant(referring to obama).


102 posted on 12/05/2008 7:57:42 AM PST by maineman (If McCain had half of my passion...we'd have won.)
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To: maineman

Wow - very interesting. Thanks for the info.


103 posted on 12/05/2008 7:59:54 AM PST by jersey117
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To: veracious

I hear ya. But count on them, they will figure out a way around this. I think that the Democrats ran an illegal candidate and they should be held accountable as well as the big O!


104 posted on 12/05/2008 8:01:04 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: STARWISE
A lot of us have noticed that Rush, Hannity and the Great one are all skirting this issue. They must have a reason why.

Oh, they casually mention it, then move on.

105 posted on 12/05/2008 8:01:10 AM PST by AGreatPer (Telling Obama all the secrets makes me sick)
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To: KarlInOhio
My bet is that they will treat this will all the legal seriousness one shows when finding a dead hooker in bed in the morning. Lots of panicking, lots of calls to the right people who can make it go away, lots of trying to hide the evidence and lots of nonsensical denials when called to answer for it.

LOL .....If only it weren't so true

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106 posted on 12/05/2008 8:02:39 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Girlene

Official Sealiness.


107 posted on 12/05/2008 8:03:13 AM PST by lilycicero (Will they or won't they...they must, they must, they must make a bust (or bust a move))
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To: AGreatPer

Not sure why.


108 posted on 12/05/2008 8:03:13 AM PST by maineman (If McCain had half of my passion...we'd have won.)
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To: jcsjcm; All

“Leo Donofrio and Cort Wrotnowski are bringing the natural born citizen into question.”

Thanks for the answer. Wasn’t it Wrotnowski that had he mailed brief sent for anthrax screening? I remember reading that here on FR. I also remember someone describing his work as a “kick-ass brief” which I assume means it was very well written.

Was Mr. Wrotnowski’s brief that good? If so, wouldn’t he also include BC stuff? I have been attempting to follow this in different threads. I don’t understand all the legal ramifications. Seems like each poster, even those stating they are attorneys, often contradict.

Would you please elaborate more, in laymen’s terms?


109 posted on 12/05/2008 8:03:25 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Blu By U

WOW. This needs to be emailed to the masses.


110 posted on 12/05/2008 8:03:43 AM PST by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: cripplecreek

The press doesn’t care about this case, but I bet Obama and the DNC does. They are probably in full freak mode right now.


111 posted on 12/05/2008 8:03:58 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: tumblindice
True in Kelo (5th Amend.) but not in Heller (2nd Amend.). I’m counting on the Supremes defending the Constitution.

From your lips/keyboard to ....

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112 posted on 12/05/2008 8:04:43 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Blu By U
Bill Richardson: "Obama is an Immigrant"
113 posted on 12/05/2008 8:05:30 AM PST by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: mtngrandpa

I believe the MSM, DNC, and yes, the RNC were all silent on the issue because they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify to hold the Office of President.

I pray the truth comes out as Leo Donofrio has the truth on his side. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/


114 posted on 12/05/2008 8:06:01 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: LeoOshkosh
Whatever, please move on. Don't get in the way of Progressive..er, um I meant to say progress.
115 posted on 12/05/2008 8:07:26 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: maineman

I read an LA Times at the coffee shop this morning. No story about the conference today at the USSC. No analysis of both sides of the issue. But a spiffy puff piece on Obama’s grass roots in Africa and the streets of Chicago.


116 posted on 12/05/2008 8:10:17 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Sola Veritas

Just found this new youtube of Rev. James David Manning. It was posted two days ago, but it appears to be a video made last Friday. Very interesting, 10 minutes but it’s worth listening to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-KDWtVHefo


117 posted on 12/05/2008 8:12:01 AM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: seekthetruth; All

“they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify”

With the circumstances of Obama’s birth and subsequent living in Indonesia, I can see the problem - an agree he isn’t qualified. However, John McCain was born to two full American citizens that were on foreign soil in the service of the U.S. Navy. I see no potential “loyalty conflicts” there. Isn’t this the purpose behind the “natural born” requirement? No divided or questionably loyaltys??


118 posted on 12/05/2008 8:12:32 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Blu By U

Holy crap!!!


119 posted on 12/05/2008 8:15:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: LeoOshkosh

When was this said? This should be big news!


120 posted on 12/05/2008 8:18:14 AM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: LeoOshkosh

I just e-mailed the link to Plains Radio.

These people need to held to account.


121 posted on 12/05/2008 8:18:21 AM PST by Blu By U
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To: maineman
Just imagine the hysteria...priceless. The following are some links to major outlets reporting on today's events. LA Times: Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency
You'll note that Sens. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton have not yet taken that irreversible step....Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
Chicago Tribune: Suit contesting Barack Obama's citizenship heads to U.S. Supreme Court today
Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentuckyman seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.
The Washington Times: PRUDEN: An impostor in the White House?
Almost nobody thinks the justices, who can read election returns as well as the law, will light the fuse...But it's an interesting story, nevertheless, since we have not yet actually elected a president. This may come as news to millions who voted for Barack Obama and John McCain and thought Nov. 4 was the end of it. But Nov. 4 was merely the day we elected the men and women who will meet in 50 state capitals Dec. 15 to actually elect the president.
WND: More than 60,000 letters sent to U.S. Supreme Court
"If we didn't do everything possible to let the Supreme Court justices know what a concern this is to millions of Americans, I would feel like I was letting down the Constitution and the men who framed it – not to mention every citizen of the United States living now and in the future," said Joseph Farah, WND's founder and editor. "This constitutional eligibility test has become a key issue with me because if the plain language of the Constitution is no longer taken seriously by our nation's controlling legal authorities, we have become an outlaw nation – no longer under the rule of law but under the rule of men."
AOL News: Supreme Court Not Considering Obama's Birth Certificate Case
the question before the court today is not whether Obama was born in the U.S., it's whether that birth makes him a natural born citizen. The argument brought by Leo Donofrio goes like this...
Politico: SCOTUS considers Obama citizenship
Maybe Thomas is just returning the favor — putting through a case that questions whether Obama should be president, after Obama said he wouldn't have picked Thomas for the high court.
Canada Free Press: Why the POTUS Needs to Be a Natural-Born Citizen
The Founders and Framers were incredibly intelligent people. In fact, they operated, intellectually, at a grade 24 level, grade 12 equating to the senior year in high school. Therefore, it shouldn’t come as any surprise that each Article and Amendment – each tenet – in The Charters of Freedom was painstakingly examined, debated, reviewed and, finally, included. Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution – the Article that clearly states the qualifications for holding the office of President of the United States – is no different.

122 posted on 12/05/2008 8:22:03 AM PST by Jeliota
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To: maineman
I Believe!

I Believe!

...I Believe!

123 posted on 12/05/2008 8:22:52 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Diogenesis

Add to that list that the Hawaiian Department of Education cannot locate 0’s Kindergaden registration records. Why is that important? Because you need a birth certificate to register a child into the school system. Now why would they lose 0’s records of all people? Hmmm...

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2008/Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan/


124 posted on 12/05/2008 8:23:08 AM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Sola Veritas

Wasn’t McCain born in Panama, which was a US terrtory, correct?


125 posted on 12/05/2008 8:24:54 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: maineman

Bump for news~


126 posted on 12/05/2008 8:25:17 AM PST by bushwon
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To: murron

Billeee, you got a lot of splainin to doo.


127 posted on 12/05/2008 8:25:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Sola Veritas

http://www.peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuits/CTpleading_Motion.htm

Hope that link works - This is Cort’s case and yes, I’ve heard this is the best one yet. I am not counting Leo out though.


128 posted on 12/05/2008 8:26:43 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Blu By U
"Obamah is an immigrant"

-Bill Richardson-

129 posted on 12/05/2008 8:28:21 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: netmilsmom

His father was in Panama for military services. They did not have a military hospital until quite a few years after McCain was born. So, he was not born in a military hospital which would have been considered US soil.


130 posted on 12/05/2008 8:28:51 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Free America52

“Just found this new youtube of Rev. James David Manning.”

Bless you! That man said it all. He expressed just how I feel.


131 posted on 12/05/2008 8:29:57 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Blu By U; CedarDave; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...
King Bill steps in it again....

"Obama is an Immigrant"

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If you want on or off the NM Ping list, please FReepmail me.

Access to the ping list is available to anyone by going to my FR home page.

132 posted on 12/05/2008 8:31:44 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Sola Veritas
McCain was born in Panama on a Military base and that is considered American Soil.

He is a natural born citizen and I believe he provided paperwork. Something O has never done.

133 posted on 12/05/2008 8:33:04 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: murron

MSM’s silence is admission of guilt in cover up...


134 posted on 12/05/2008 8:35:06 AM PST by mtngrandpa (Fighting the Insurgency at Home)
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To: jcsjcm

He was born on a base which is US Soil though, was he not?


135 posted on 12/05/2008 8:35:44 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

It’s beyond belief that 0 has gotten away with hiding all these facts about himself! Something’s rotten, and it’s not in Denmark this time!

Praying for a miracle here! Please take the case, US Supremes! Do your duty!

As for the people standing outside the US Supreme Ct, even if no one pays attention to them, so what? THEY GOT INVOLVED IN PROTESTING A CRIME ABOUT TO BE INFLICTED ON AMERICA! God will bless them for that!


136 posted on 12/05/2008 8:36:05 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: TexasCajun

“Obamah is an immigrant”

Yes, an ‘un/documented immigrant’ at that.


137 posted on 12/05/2008 8:37:04 AM PST by Blu By U
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To: AGreatPer
I think Rush and Hannity figure that if they run with this story before SCOTUS says anything, they'll look dopey of SCOTUS doesn't end up taking the case; also, if SCOTUS does hear the case, Hannity et al can discuss and argue, “Hey, we're just discussing the news.”
138 posted on 12/05/2008 8:37:25 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Unfortunately, no! The hospital (only hospital available for his mother to give birth) was not on US soil. Obama, Hillary and a bunch of other democrats passed some sort of bill/amendment or whatever you call it to bypass that particular issue - sorry I don’t have the link. I think they thought that if BO ended up having an issue that the Republicans would kindly do the same thing. But this bypass is unconstitutional.


139 posted on 12/05/2008 8:39:09 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: utahagen

I think you are exactly right. No conservative wanted to be known as the one who started bringing up these “crazy” ideas, and MSM was scared to bring it up because it implicates them. This gives us the opportunity to discredit BHO and MSM at the same time.


140 posted on 12/05/2008 8:40:12 AM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: STARWISE; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Thank you, Starwise.

Ping. (For those on dial-up, perhaps skip page 1 of this thread, a lot of birth certificate photos posted.)


141 posted on 12/05/2008 8:41:45 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

The military hospital wasn’t built until 1941. McCain was born in a Panama hospital.


142 posted on 12/05/2008 8:41:53 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: maineman

This just in..... Obama rhymes with Momma


143 posted on 12/05/2008 8:42:02 AM PST by woofie
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To: deannadurbin; Owl_Eagle
Prayers for the protesters and those who flooded the court with letters.

Prayers for those who brought the suits and their legal team

Prayers that the SC Justices do the right thing, uphold the Constitution, and make O prove he is a natural born citizen.

144 posted on 12/05/2008 8:42:03 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: jcsjcm

Thanks.


145 posted on 12/05/2008 8:43:20 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: maineman

bump to bookmark - thanks for posting this!


146 posted on 12/05/2008 8:44:20 AM PST by sneakers
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To: maineman

WLS - Chicago says the case will be updated within minutes. Listen: http://gateway.andohs.net/player/?sid=1044&nid=2920


147 posted on 12/05/2008 8:44:40 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: cripplecreek

Really,

Could you imagine cornering Bill Richardson with this a copy of this and the Constitution. Wouldn’t it be amazing to watch him start twitching like OBuma. He needs to fess up to the American People. They all need to come clean..


148 posted on 12/05/2008 8:44:54 AM PST by Blu By U
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To: Elle Bee

Hearing Keith Olbermann describe this last night as a “crackpot lawsuit” helped me think it might have merit, then I immediately switched over to Fox where they were updating on the nasty e-mail from the Dutch lawyers to Natalie Holloway’s lawyers,
then I shot the TV .........TV—off, bad TV!


149 posted on 12/05/2008 8:45:04 AM PST by tumblindice (If the MSM hates it, it must have legs)
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To: Jeliota
Joseph Farah, WND's founder and editor. "This constitutional eligibility test has become a key issue with me because if the plain language of the Constitution is no longer taken seriously by our nation's controlling legal authorities, we have become an outlaw nation – no longer under the rule of law but under the rule of men."

Sad that WND and the Canada Free Press have the best reportage.

150 posted on 12/05/2008 8:45:17 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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