Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Group offers to buy back guns (Denver)
thedenverdailynews.com ^ | 11/14/2008 | Peter Marcus

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:50:57 AM PST by CodeToad

Community leaders yesterday announced a gun buy back program that offers $50 to anyone who turns in a gun — “no questions asked.”

Organized by black community leader Alvertis Simmons, the program attempts to remove guns from the streets to curb future violence. On Dec. 6, from noon-3 p.m., gun owners will be able to turn in their guns — working or not — for $50 per gun. The rally will take place at City Park in front of the Martin Luther King, Jr. statue. The program has been approved by the Denver Police Department, but organizers promise that no questions will be asked.

“We’re tired of our kids dying, we’re tired of our community being shed with blood — do something, shut up, stop complaining,” said Simmons at a news conference yesterday in front of the statue of Martin Luther King, Jr. in City Park. “We voted, now we’ve got to get those guns out of the hands of all these criminals.”

Joined by three other black community leaders, Simmons and the group spoke of the empowerment they feel by the election of President-elect Barack Obama. But they said the next step for the black community is to take specific action in individual communities.

“We’ve got a problem in our community. We are certainly trying to keep pace with our President-elect … but we cannot have unity and have violence living together in our community,” said Rev. Reginald Holmes, pastor of New Covenant Christian Church in Denver. “So we, particularly as African Americans, we must really begin to work in our community, and one of the first things we can affect is this whole area of illegal and illicit weapons in our community that are not being used for any other purpose than to perpetuate crime.”

Following Obama’s election, gun sales in Colorado soared as owners attempted to stock up out of suspicions that the new president would work to ban guns on the federal level. Holmes said he believes the hysteria is based on fear.

“We think that it’s fear and people overreacting, but in no way does Sen. Obama intend to take anybody’s guns away,” he said. “What we’re talking about are the Saturday night specials and the illegal and illicit use of the guns, not to defend, but to kill, maim and hurt.”

The group said the issue is not about trying to ban guns — Holmes said he himself is a gun owner. They said it is simply an attempt to get guns out of the hands of people who have no business owning one in the first place. And perhaps to encourage women and other family members to proactively remove the guns from their homes by turning them in at the rally on Dec. 6, organizers said.

Organizers are currently raising money themselves for the buy back program, but are asking for some in the business community to step up and match financial donations. A record of all the guns taken will be kept, and all the guns will be destroyed by the Denver Police Department, Simmons said.

Finances will be controlled by the FACE IT advocacy group through Holmes’ church. Donations can be made by calling 303-907-1337, or by sending a check to 825 Ivanhoe Street in Denver.

“On Dec. 6th, just drop the gun in the box, get your $50 and go on with your business,” said Simmons.

Gun Buy Back Rally:

WHAT: Turn in a gun, get $50

WHEN: Dec. 6th, noon-3 p.m.

WHERE: City Park, 17th and Esplanade

DONATIONS: 303-907-1337, or 825 Ivanhoe St. in Denver


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: denvergunbuyback
The buyback seems to be this weekend as announced on local radio stations.
1 posted on 12/05/2008 6:50:57 AM PST by CodeToad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

I would offer to pay them double!


2 posted on 12/05/2008 6:52:35 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Hey, another publicly financed “Dump your stolen piece for cash” day ... essentially allowing thugs to turn in hot, broken or worthless guns for cash to buy other guns for criminal purposes.


3 posted on 12/05/2008 6:53:45 AM PST by mgc1122
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

They’ve tried this here in York, PA. It’s noting but political grandstanding.

Some sick SOB was distributing a flier showing to make a function gun with a couple of bucks worth of materials available in any hardware store. He suggested making six of these, selling them in the buyback program for $50 each, and then taking the $300 and buying a real gun.


4 posted on 12/05/2008 6:54:19 AM PST by Daveinyork
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Wish they would have this in our city; I have two old total junk guns worth a buck apiece that I would love to get $50 each for!


5 posted on 12/05/2008 6:54:25 AM PST by HD1200
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
Isn't "buying" guns without a background check a violation of Federal law?

Regards,
GtG

PS See me first, I'll go at least $75 if the piece is worth having!

6 posted on 12/05/2008 6:55:35 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: o_zarkman44

I will too!

Let’s pool our money, and then we can divvy up the “take”.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 6:55:55 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
How many criminals use non functioning guns to kill people?
8 posted on 12/05/2008 6:57:13 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Nothing creates an incentive quite like paying criminals to steal a few more. Maybe the city of Denver will use the cash to pay for trigger locks for their cops....

http://m.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/10/stolen-police-cruiser-found-gun-missing/

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-79843790.html

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-138536683.html

http://www.yourstreet.com/news/4703437/police-gun-stolen-in-burglary#/news/4703437/police-gun-stolen-in-burglary

http://www.examiner.com/r-3906665~Police_gun_stolen_in_burglary.html

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/10/stolen-police-cruiser-found-gun-missing/


9 posted on 12/05/2008 6:57:27 AM PST by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: o_zarkman44

I once saw a junkie standing in line at a Washington DC “buy-back”, waiting to get a $100 gift card for a brand-new-looking Colt AR-15.

Another decrepit-looking fellow was waiting to turn what looked to be a WWI vintage S&W .38 (the one with the lanyard loop on the bottom of the grip), for a $50 gift card.

It made me sick to my stomach.


10 posted on 12/05/2008 6:58:45 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

$50 for my gun? Sorry dude, I ain’t selling. It cost nearly $950 for my AR15. Give me $1,700 and it is yours. Then I will take the $1,700 and buy two new ones. Your move Denver.


11 posted on 12/05/2008 6:58:51 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Daveinyork

That’s not sick... that’s GENIUS!


12 posted on 12/05/2008 6:59:20 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
"... now we’ve got to get those guns out of the hands of all these criminals...".

Right....

Because everyone knows that "these criminals" are absolutely chomping at the bit to line up and get fifty bucks apiece for guns they either stole or paid hundreds of dollars for on the black market.

You know they'll do it for the good of "the community".

13 posted on 12/05/2008 7:00:12 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Shut up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Daveinyork

Some sick SOB was distributing a flier showing to make a function gun with a couple of bucks worth of materials available in any hardware store. He suggested making six of these, selling them in the buyback program for $50 each, and then taking the $300 and buying a real gun.


Nothing sick about trying to make a buck. However, a $300 per gun offer would be closer to reality and would insure better quality of firearms in the hands of the bad guys. The media is again trying to make news rather than report the failure of their selected leaders.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 7:01:12 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Ok now, let’s get this straight. If a gang guy shoots another gang guy and steals his gun; this organization will pay him $50 for it.


15 posted on 12/05/2008 7:01:50 AM PST by reg45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
The group said the issue is not about trying to ban guns — Holmes said he himself is a gun owner. They said it is simply an attempt to get guns out of the hands of people who have no business owning one in the first place.

Then why are the guns being destroyed instead of re-sold to law-abiding citizens?

16 posted on 12/05/2008 7:03:19 AM PST by Sloth (I am the governed, and I hereby withhold my consent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Steal a gun. Turn it in. Get $50. Walk away.

Their crime rate will be double by tomorrow.


17 posted on 12/05/2008 7:03:52 AM PST by Niteranger68 (You can't force me to create your wealth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reg45

“Ok now, let’s get this straight. If a gang guy shoots another gang guy and steals his gun; this organization will pay him $50 for”

Hey, we ought to just pay ‘em a $50 bounty”.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 7:03:58 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

They did it here...A little investigation...They were buying better models...on the street.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 7:05:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
I object to the term buyback.

It implies that the gov't owns them in the first place.

20 posted on 12/05/2008 7:06:20 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RedStateRocker

We could offer a $500 per ear as proof to collect the bounty. But if we did the gangbangers would all do the VanGogh bit.


21 posted on 12/05/2008 7:11:42 AM PST by reg45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: WayneS

Actually, I meant “sick” as a compliment, as in a sick sense of humor, of which I am often accused of having.


22 posted on 12/05/2008 7:17:10 AM PST by Daveinyork
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

—more—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2143391/posts


23 posted on 12/05/2008 7:17:38 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Daveinyork

Okay. Gotcha!

;^)


24 posted on 12/05/2008 7:18:28 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: reg45

That’s about it... Yep.


25 posted on 12/05/2008 7:19:59 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
“We think that it’s fear and people overreacting, but in no way does Sen. Obama intend to take anybody’s guns away,” he said. “What we’re talking about are the Saturday night specials and the illegal and illicit use of the guns, not to defend, but to kill, maim and hurt.”

What are Saturday Night Specials? The term is loosely used to describe an inexpensive handgun, usually made from pot metal and chambered in a lower caliber. The significance of his statement is the affordability of this type of gun quite often makes it the only self-defense option for the poor. Is he saying that we disarm the poor first?

26 posted on 12/05/2008 7:22:05 AM PST by Niteranger68 (You can't force me to create your wealth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
Can anyone explain to me why these futile attempts at getting guns away from those "who have no business owning one in the first place" are called "buy-backs"?

Buying something back implies the seller is doing a favor for the buyer, as when a jeweler offers to buy back an engagement ring if things don't work out.

Did any member of the group organizing this event sell the guns initially?

Even better, did all the people who will be turning in a firearm to collect their $50 actually buy it?

Related to the last question, will the police check the serial numbers on all the guns turned in against a list of stolen weapons, or would that be too much work?

Of course, no self-respecting reporter could be expected to ask these kinds of questions. Just write the story, then a follow-up with a photo of a big stack of guns.

27 posted on 12/05/2008 7:27:26 AM PST by logician2u
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
“We’re tired of our kids dying, we’re tired of our community being shed with blood — do something, shut up, stop complaining,”

 

Well they could just start snitching . That would be more productive than any Buy Back Program

28 posted on 12/05/2008 7:29:22 AM PST by grjr21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

I announced this as a gun buy program. I mean $50? “Hey, kid, I’ll give you $100 for that piece!” See what I mean.

It seems to me that this is a gun show by legal definition and requires NICS checks for all purchases.


29 posted on 12/05/2008 7:37:21 AM PST by CodeToad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
Group offers to buy back guns (Denver)

Seller's remorse for having sold them in tne first place?

30 posted on 12/05/2008 7:37:55 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
“We’re tired of our kids dying, we’re tired of our community being shed with blood — do something, shut up, stop complaining,” said Simmons at a news conference yesterday in front of the statue of Martin Luther King, Jr. in City Park. “We voted, now we’ve got to get those guns out of the hands of all these criminals.

Don't they usually do this sort of thing at City Hall? They must have figured out where the problem lies...

31 posted on 12/05/2008 7:44:00 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Colorado statute 12-26.1-106 states:

(3) “Gun show” means the entire premises provided for an event or function, including but not limited to parking areas for the event or function, that is sponsored to facilitate, in whole or in part, the purchase, sale, offer for sale, or collection of firearms at which:

(a) twenty-five or more firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, transfer, or exchange; or

(b) not less than three gun show vendors exhibit, sell, offer for sale, transfer, or exchange firearms.

(4) “Gun show promoter” means a person who organizes or operates a gun show.

(5) “Gun show vendor” means any person who exhibits, sells, offers for sale, transfers, or exchanges, any firearm at a gun show, regardless of whether the person arranges with a gun show promoter for a fixed location from which to exhibit, sell, offer for sale, transfer, or exchange any firearm.

This activist group is a gun show under Colorado law.

The statutes continue:

12-26.1-101. Background checks at gun shows - penalty.

(1) Before a gun show vendor transfers or attempts to transfer a firearm at a gun show, he or she shall:

(a) require that a background check, in accordance with section 24-33.5-424, C.R.S., be conducted of the prospective transferee; and

(b) obtain approval of a transfer from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation after a background check has been requested by a licensed gun dealer, in accordance with section 24-33.5-424, C.R.S.

(2) A gun show promoter shall arrange for the services of one or more licensed gun dealers on the premises of the gun show to obtain the background checks required by this article.

(3) If any part of a firearm transaction takes place at a gun show, no firearm shall be transferred unless a background check has been obtained by a licensed gun dealer.

(4) Any person violating the provisions of this section commits a class 1 misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided in section 18-1.3-501, C.R.S.


32 posted on 12/05/2008 7:45:44 AM PST by CodeToad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
Another decrepit-looking fellow was waiting to turn what looked to be a WWI vintage S&W .38 (the one with the lanyard loop on the bottom of the grip), for a $50 gift card.

I remember reading a story some years ago about an elderly guy who turned in a pristine WWII vintage rifle during a buyback program, not realizing that it was worth a lot more than that, not just monetarily, but to his son as well. Well, his son tried to get the police department to return it, but their barf-worthy response was "this program was to get guns off the streets, the weapon will be destroyed along with all the others to make sure it doesn't end up back on the street." Yeah, because people get held up with vintage Springfield M1903's all the time...
33 posted on 12/05/2008 7:58:27 AM PST by messierhunter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Sloth
Then why are the guns being destroyed instead of re-sold to law-abiding citizens?

Don't worry; I'm sure that any quality pieces will end up in a cop's private collection or a local gunshop.

34 posted on 12/05/2008 7:59:14 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("If one cannot learn from the mistakes of others, one might as well become a Democrat."--E. Friesner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Hey, can anybody do this? What an awesome idea!

I put a small ad in the paper advertising a gun buyback. I’ll, I mean my organization, will pay anybody $50 to turn in their gun.

All to keep mean guns off the street and out of the hands of children!


35 posted on 12/05/2008 8:09:29 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VeniVidiVici
..and IN my gun cabinets...

I LIKE it.

Let's form an organization.

Citizens Responding Against Street Shootings (CRASS), and start our OWN buy-back programs in all 50 states.

We will simply destroy the junk guns, but KEEP the good ones (and there are always a FEW good ones turned in by dumb-a$$es).

We'll have awesome(er) gun collections in NO TIME.

36 posted on 12/05/2008 8:22:31 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: o_zarkman44

I have a bunch of pipe and nails in my garage - think they would be willing to pay $50 for each section of pipe and nail set I put together? Could probably crank out dozens in time?


37 posted on 12/05/2008 8:25:24 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
Citizens Responding Against Street Shootings (CRASS), and start our OWN buy-back programs in all 50 states.

LOL! Maybe we could also go international and buyback all the AKs on the streets in the Mideast. :)

38 posted on 12/05/2008 8:47:29 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy
"$50 for my gun? Sorry dude, I ain’t selling. It cost nearly $950 for my AR15. Give me $1,700 and it is yours. Then I will take the $1,700 and buy two new ones. Your move Denver."

I am assuming you are being charitable here as you would still have to shell out a couple hundred more bucks...

39 posted on 12/05/2008 9:19:17 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Nope. Bought my AR 15 on sale for that amount.


40 posted on 12/05/2008 1:32:05 PM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

What I was trying to get at is the fact that taking 1700 dollars and trying to purchase two new 950 dollar rifles would not be possible because that would total 1900 dollars...:-)


41 posted on 12/06/2008 8:06:29 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Oh, right. My bad. No calculator, no add I guess. Sorry.


42 posted on 12/06/2008 9:54:06 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson