Posted on 12/05/2008 10:18:12 AM PST by STARWISE
Four days ago, Roger Bredow uploaded a video to YouTube beseeching like-minded people to come to Washington, D.C. and stand with him outside the Supreme Court.
"[Barack] Obama was born a dual citizen," Bredow said, "British, and a citizen of the United States, at birth." This, said Bredow, meant that the president-elect could never take the oath of office.
And on Friday, the Supreme Court would read Donofrio v. Wells, a suit brought by a New Jersey poker player against his state elections officer, which laid out the charges in the hopes of nullifying the election.
Today at 8 a.m., they came.
"If I'm going to be honest with you," said Bredow, sporting a floppy American flag hat that he'd promised on YouTube he'd be wearing, "I thought I might be the only person here."
He had flown in from Georgia. The other fifteen to twenty people who cycled in and out of the small protest had traveled shorter distances—southern Pennsylvania, northern Virginia—but they felt they had to do something.
The "dual born citizen" claim is the latest (and maybe strongest) attempt by Obama conspiracy theorists to argue that he can't be president, but most of the people I talked to had questioned Obama's citizenship long before this.
"I first heard about it from Phil Berg's case," said Julie Menge of Williamsburg, Virginia, referring to a case that alleges, among other things, that a 2007 state of Hawaii reproduction of Obama's birth certification is forged, and that Obama's paternal Kenyan step-grandmother Sarah was in the room when he was born.
One protestor claimed that a mysterious Muslim imam blessed Obama's birth in Kenya, and that this fact would eventually be revealed, somehow. (He cited African Press International, a bizarre web site that claims it has, but will not make public, a tape of Michelle Obama ranting about racist media coverage of her husband.)
At 9 a.m., a black minister who would only give his name as Brother Pittman led a prayer circle and a recitation of the pledge of allegiance. Pittman, who lives in Silver Spring, came as a "representative of the Rev. James David Manning," a Harlem preacher who became an Internet legend for a February sermon in which he called Obama a "long-legged mack daddy" who was "born trash."
"I've been shunned by members of my own family," Pittman said. "I tell them, do the research! Go online and look up the facts! This is all about openness and why Barack Obama won't answer questions about who he is."
There's nothing new at all about small, strange protests outside the court, whether or not the justices are at work.
While the Obama protestors were praying, a group of 16 young Christians walked up to the other side of the Court steps, strumming a guitar and lighting candles before holding a pro-life prayer vigil.
Police and tourists looked on and a very small group of journalists grabbed the Obama protestors for interviews. "This story is writing itself," said a Mother Jones reporter as he filmed the prayer circle.
The Supreme Court will announce whether it will actually consider the Obama lawsuit as early as today and as late as Monday.
If (as expected) the Court tosses the suit, Bredow will start challenging Obama's legitimacy based on "foreign money that went into his campaign."
Other protestors said they'd start contacting members of the Electoral College. Steve Brindle, who drove down from Pennsylvania, said he'd called his senators yesterday.
"There aren't a lot of people out here today," said Brindle. "There are a lot of people talking about this back home. Really, everyone's asking questions."
~~at SCOTUS PING!
Pretty impressive crowd...
This matter is poetic justice for John McCain. His support of illegal immigration has indirectly resulted in an alien outlaw defeating him and becoming U.S. president.
I'm sorry..but that's funny.
Wish I could have been there. Bet I’d run into a few Freepers.
Yeah, whaddya think? A dozen? Dozen and a half?
I wish I could have been there too!
Not really. According to Donofrio McCain isn't eligible to be president either so he didn't lose anything.
This thing's got legs!!!
I agree, considering the story never really got legs.
“This matter is poetic justice for John McCain. His support of illegal immigration has indirectly resulted in an alien outlaw defeating him and becoming U.S. president.”
Damn. One of my younger relatives, who voted for McC to keep Zer0 said the same thing after the election. He called Zer0 an illegal getting elected president by more illegals and racists.
A mustard seed.
Wish I was there.
Yeah, looks like about 24 of them.
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, born to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and his wife, Roberta. At the time of his birth, the McCain family was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, under American control. This makes McCain a natural born citizen.
Are you joking? There were more people in the line in front of me at the grocery store this morning. I wish the press would have investigated this and I wish John McCain would have run a decent campaign but the election is over.
Yes.
Actually he was born in a civilian hospital in Panama while his father was stationed at Coco Solo but that's beside the point. So far as federal law and I'm concerned, McCain is a natural born U.S. citizen because both his parents were U.S. citizens who had lived in the states for a number of years before he was born. I have absolutely no problems accepting that. But Donofrio has twisted 'natural born U.S. citizen' status to mean someone born on U.S. soil of U.S. citizen parents. And in that respect, McCain doesn't qualify. That's why if the Court were to take on the Donofrio case and if he won then neither McCain or Obama could be president.
That's a typical liberal strategy to undercount the number of protesters in an effort to belittle their cause. There are clearly 28 legs.
God bless you all. For each one of you there physically, there are hundreds of thousands of us with you in spirit.
Using Liberal observation techniques and math I estimate the crowd to be around 5,500.
While I (and quite a few others) believe this story has legitimacy, I have completely lost faith in any sane attempt by anyone in any position of power to do anything about it! I would have loved to have been there and to have been part of a HUGE crowd “acting up.” Folks have given up though and we feel it would have been a waste of time and money to travel to DC for this.
We are now at a point in this country in which the SCOTUS, even if they are shown irrefutible proof that this case is worth pursing, won’t do a damned thing for fear of the RIOTING and absolute HELL RAISING (and oh yes, there would be blood in the streets) that would ensue if BHO is found to be inelligible to be POTUS.
We are truly at a point in which “mob rules.”
Never mind what the constitution says or what proof is delivered. Fear the backlash.
The same thing is going to happen in CA over Prop 8.
Either the courts are going to overturn it or take some unconstitutional action against the will of the voters, OR, it will come up again in the next election and the one after that and the one after that until it is defeated.
Excellent take and so true.!
Lemmme guess, Larry Kudlow “Free market capitalism”?
Very well said, anyone remember the story behind William Wilberforce? Virtually all by himself, year after year introducing a bill in Parliament to abolish slavery which took about 19 years and that was just the beginning, then it had to be put into effect! What a great man. It didn't take a battalion of people to accomplish that, just one man but it DID take TIME. What he withstood should be required reading for anyone getting into politics and stands on principle.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
This is a case for the Constitutional lawyers to figure out regarding Juan McCain. Obama as far as I can see is a foreigner.
McCain can still win the Presidency when Obama becomes ruled ineligible!
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
“That’s why if the Court were to take on the Donofrio case and if he won then neither McCain or Obama could be president.”
^IF^ it goes to argument before the SCOTUS, I think a lot of the argument will hinge on the fact that a foreign-born national was placed on the NJ ballot by the SOS. No due diligence is dereliction of duty.
The NJ electors should be stayed until the SOS does her duty - vetting ALL the candidates.
NJ electors not enough for Opossumm to lose, SOS will toss them under the bus and Certifigate will go on.
Thanks, Starwise.
Ping for photos.
This was the responsibility of the McCain campaign and the Republican Party. They failed miserably in opposition research. The so called compasionate conservatives are nothing but cowards. But the election is over and as Mr. Tyrell wrote in an essay posted earlier, conservatives are once again out in the wilderness. While we are out in the wilderness we need to return to conservative principles and come up with conservative solutions to our national problems.
I really don’t think McCain can still win. The Dems would have to hold convention to decide for Hillary.
I know you probably don’t, but are there still people that think that McCain still has a chance at becoming president? I sure hope not....
Thanks STAR.
Nope.
The parable of the mustard seed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Mustard_Seed
To me, those that gathered today represent the mustard seed, a beginning. This will grow. We must keep at it.
Big things have small beginnings.
God bless them, each and every one.
They’re standing and praying there
for us all.
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FYI: some fools never learn:
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Dan Rather in Panic Mode: Move Inauguration to December 1 (Video also)
December 5, 2008 - 11:15 ET
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Appearing on Friday’s “Morning Joe,” former CBS anchor Dan Rather chided President Bush for not doing enough during his lame duck period and argued for moving Inauguration Day up to December 1.
And although Rather didn’t explain specifically what Bush wasn’t doing enough about (The financial crisis? The terrorist incident in India?), he did hyperbolically fret, “But, we’re in possibly, possibly the biggest crisis we’ve been in since December 7, 1941 and maybe since the time of the Civil War.” (As big a calamity as slavery and the dissolution of the Union?)
Addressing the past practice of inaugurating presidents in March, Rather lobbied “Thank heaven, we now swear them in, new presidents, in January.
I’d be in favor of moving it up to December 1st.” (The former network anchor didn’t explain how he would then deal with situations like the protracted 2000 post-election battle.)
*Audio*
http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2008/12/2008-12-05-MSNBC-MJ-Rather.mp3
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That’s not joking, that’s ridicule. There are several pricks bouncing from thread to thread, wherever the obamanoid’s eligibility is being discussed. [prick = small nettle, an irritant, nothing more.]
You two are right, thanks for the laugh!
If the NJ electors are kicked out, then so should all the electors in states were ineligible candidates ran for office.
The nicaraguan socialist was on the ballot in about 10 states.
Totally concurring with you.
You'd rather have 0bama as president than McCain?
I'm saving your screen name for future reference.
I’m with both of you. It’s sad, truly sad.
I am not trying to ridicule anyone for being concerned about the issue of citizenship but I do think it is too late to bring these suits. This should have been done a year ago, first by Hillary and then by McCain. They both blew it and Obama was elected by a substantial majority. I think this should be an issue in Obama's reelection with an emphasis placed on Obama's secrecy and failure to provide pertinent documentation of his birth and life.
No matter what happens, God bless those people for having the GUTS to travel there and pray for America.
Heros, every one of those protesting are heros. Whether there are 10 or 10,000...they made the effort and I congratulate them all. They are Patriots. God bless ‘em as they do the Lord’s work today.
Most FReepers also can't come to the conclusion that this is a lost nation & soon become a 3rd world nation. I see it dividing into probably 3 regions. Yes, the leftist have won - all because conservatives sat on their arses & allowed it. The Treasury, The Fed & puppet Bush along with the decrpit Congress just took away your financial freedoms & NOBODY complained passed an E-Mail. I wonder what Alexander Sohlzenicha (sp)would say today if he were alive.
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