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Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement
Fox ^ | Monday, December 01, 2008 | Brian Berger

Posted on 12/05/2008 2:35:41 PM PST by Chet 99

WASHINGTON — U.S. President-elect Barack Obama's NASA transition team is asking U.S. space agency officials to quantify how much money could be saved by canceling the Ares 1 rocket and scaling back the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle next year.

Obama pledged during his campaign to inject an additional $2 billion into NASA aimed in part at narrowing the gap between the space shuttle's retirement and the introduction of a successor system.

While NASA Administrator Mike Griffin and his senior managers are adamant that Ares and Orion are the right vehicles to fill that role, Obama did not endorse either system by name during his campaign.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; ares1; bhonasa; brokepromise; federalspending; nasa; obama; obamatransitionfile; orion; space
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To: NonValueAdded
While NASA Administrator Mike Griffin and his senior managers are adamant that Ares and Orion are the right vehicles to fill that role, Obama did not endorse either system by name during his campaign.

YES, HE DID

See above: "Here's what I'm committing to: Continue Constellation." Well, since the Aries rocket and Orion Crew Vehicle ARE Constellation, only the most rabbid Clintonian parser could say he did not endorse the systems by name.

21 posted on 12/05/2008 2:47:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Obama Lied, Space Died.


22 posted on 12/05/2008 2:48:35 PM PST by reg45
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To: Chet 99

NASA; SDI, just two programs that will have to do with less or none at all so that the ‘urban voter’ may be rewarded for helping make history.


23 posted on 12/05/2008 2:50:04 PM PST by jla
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To: 88keys; Matchett-PI; mcmuffin; 3D-JOY; WorkerbeeCitizen; shove_it; drj; Sax; Normal4me; ...

Brevard County, Florida ping.

Obama lied, the Space Coast died ping.

Let me know if you want on or off this list.
(not associated with the county government - NVA is a NGO!)

24 posted on 12/05/2008 2:51:28 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: NonValueAdded

It’s only a request for info, but Mr Obama campaigned on speeding up the Ares/Orion. However, all bets are off.


25 posted on 12/05/2008 2:51:59 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Chet 99


26 posted on 12/05/2008 2:52:07 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: Chet 99

The only person who was President while people were on the moon was Nixon.


27 posted on 12/05/2008 2:52:14 PM PST by reg45
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To: Chet 99

Needs the money for ‘programs’.


28 posted on 12/05/2008 2:52:58 PM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: Chet 99

What use does a 2nd world nation have with a space program?


29 posted on 12/05/2008 2:54:51 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

That point is key. We want the smart guys (and gals) to have an outlet for their talents in THIS COUNTRY. We’ve already been outsourcing labor and manufacturing.. it’d be suicide to do that with the technical workers.


30 posted on 12/05/2008 2:55:15 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: NonValueAdded

Thanx for the ping.


31 posted on 12/05/2008 2:58:20 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: reg45
Obama Lied, Space Died.

Sally Ride, denied.

32 posted on 12/05/2008 2:59:26 PM PST by countess
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To: RightWhale

A request for info, exploring the breaking of such an important campaign promise needs to result in singed fingers.


33 posted on 12/05/2008 3:01:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: RightWhale; NonValueAdded

We need to wait and see what he does - I’m not going to panic yet.

He has sent mixed signals and has a knack for flip flopping.


34 posted on 12/05/2008 3:03:05 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: saganite

I also agree that scrapping the shuttle’s replacement is a good idea. Manned spaceflight is not necessary for the development of space-based defense systems. Further, private industry can do manned space flight more cheaply and can innovate more quickly. Because the gov’t has been involved we’ve had to keep the shuttle going despite the fact that it’s basically ‘70s technology shoved into a school bus with wings.

As for going to Mars, let’s not waste the money for idle curiousity. The distance, the constant exposure to cosmic radiation, the dust microns in the thin Martian atmosphere, etc. make any prolonged human stay on the Martian surface risky beyond any feasible benefit. If the Chicoms or russkies want to put the first corpses on Mars, let them.


35 posted on 12/05/2008 3:03:07 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Chet 99

Obama will cost this nation trillions listening to the global warming frauds at NASA, but when it comes to listening to steely-eyed rocket men, Obama knows better.


36 posted on 12/05/2008 3:11:47 PM PST by pallis
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To: Lou Budvis

but exploration for the sake of exploration is the very thing that gives greatness to Mankind. Unlike animals, we do more than simply eat and reproduce. Don’t we? Then let’s explore.

Promoting the useful sciences is one few express powers given to the Congress by the Constitution.


37 posted on 12/05/2008 3:12:00 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Lou Budvis
As for going to Mars, let’s not waste the money for idle curiousity

What question is more important to civilization than whether there is or was life on Mars?

38 posted on 12/05/2008 3:14:13 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: NinoFan

The zero will cut

The Shuttle
The ISS, all this money and no science to date.
THe F35 and stall any future F22 buys
ALL of the advanced combat systems existing or planned
ALL but 3 (or maybe 4) of the carrier battle groups
The planned increases for the Army and USMC will be phased out over 2 to 4 years

There may be additional manning cuts across the board in all services, tho the Coasties may be spared the brunt of the cuts. NOAA is toast.

Feel free to add your picks...


39 posted on 12/05/2008 3:40:19 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: Chet 99

Yesterday, Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff spoke before employees at JPL.

Basically, he lied about a lot of things, including the incoming administration’s support for the space community. BTW, they, like the car manufacturer community, voted for the guy. Fools!


40 posted on 12/05/2008 3:41:46 PM PST by Ben Reyes (Palin 2012)
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