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Chinese property hunters to raid US
ft.com ^ | December 5 2008 | Geoff Dyer

Posted on 12/05/2008 4:59:44 PM PST by thetru

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To: stboz

Tea alllllll over. LMAO


41 posted on 12/05/2008 8:08:14 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: AirForceMom

You eat arr youa meramine? Must be memba of crean prate crub.


42 posted on 12/05/2008 8:13:16 PM PST by stboz
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To: thetru

I smell a reality show in there....

Calling HGTV


43 posted on 12/05/2008 8:55:54 PM PST by Feiny (oooOOOooo look out the FR police are watching you post)
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To: keats5

A bitter irony to say the least.


44 posted on 12/06/2008 8:35:22 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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To: thetru

btt


45 posted on 12/06/2008 12:26:09 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bruinbirdman

The problem is that in large measure immigrants don’t assimilate. The Draft is over, there is no shared experience and very little in the way of patriotism, by and large.


46 posted on 12/06/2008 4:41:49 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: bruinbirdman

Been to Hawaii lately???


47 posted on 12/06/2008 11:48:16 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64
Lived there in '76. Hawaii Kai, Diamond Head way. Worked in Pearl City. Did a lot of business with military veteranarians.

yitbos

48 posted on 12/07/2008 12:33:52 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Ahhh yes, the Pearl City Tavern...

...military veteranarians...hehehe, yer killin’ me!!!


49 posted on 12/07/2008 5:47:55 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: thetru
To put this article in perspective, Americans buy in foreign markets as well. It isn't uncommon for Americans to go to Mexico or South and Central America to buy a second property or retirement property. Or elsewhere in the world. The Chinese are merely doing the same when buying property in America. Except now, the prices are more inviting.

In an increasing global economy, we focus on foreigners buying American soil. But we forget, Americans have been investing and buying property overseas for the last century. Some of the buying, is merely flowing back this way.

50 posted on 12/07/2008 1:42:09 PM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life
Chinese officials punished for lavish US tour
By CARA ANNA – 2 days ago

BEIJING (AP) — The Chinese bureaucrats who spent taxpayers' money on a $700-a-night Las Vegas hotel and visits to Hawaiian beaches and a San Francisco sex show might have gotten away with it if someone hadn't lost a bag on the Shanghai subway.

The dozens of documents and receipts in the bag, with officials' names and enthusiastic comments attached, were swiftly posted on the Internet, spreading like wildfire across Chinese cyberspace over the past week. That brought swift punishment for some officials involved — and another disgusted shrug from Chinese citizens all-too-familiar with corruption.

Officials gambling and spending government money on shopping sprees and sightseeing during overseas trips is hardly new. But making the lurid details public certainly is, illustrating the growing power of the Chinese public to use the Internet to expose wrongdoing.

"These are public resources, and people have the right to know how they were used," Wang Xixin, a law professor at Peking University, told The Associated Press Friday.

The bag was thought to have been left on the subway by a travel agent, the state-run Xinhua News Agency reported. The man who posted them online described himself as an IT engineer — and an angry one.

The documents chronicle the adventures of 23 officials from the eastern city of Wenzhou during five days of a three-week trip that cost taxpayers $94,000, Xinhua reported. Their Communist Party committee has demanded repayment of all unapproved expenses.

Xinhua said the group visited nearly a dozen cities, many more than authorized, and spent just five days on official business — far fewer than ordered.

The reasons for the trip? Everything from "An Overview of American History" to "Honest and Clean Government Management."

51 posted on 12/07/2008 3:10:35 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: BurbankKarl
Wiverside Cawifornia.....gawden spot of West Coast!

In my friends neighborhood, can't beleive he still lives there, he says they have always planted corn in the back yards, and chickens and roosters are everywhere, but now they are planting corn in the front yards!!

52 posted on 12/07/2008 3:14:21 PM PST by thirst4truth
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To: bruinbirdman
Thanks for letting me know about this sort of information. I have seen reports of this. The documents chronicle the adventures of 23 officials from the eastern city of Wenzhou during five days of a three-week trip that cost taxpayers $94,000, Xinhua reported. Their Communist Party committee has demanded repayment of all unapproved expenses.

Back in the 80's there seemed to be a never ending report about excesses in the US military. $500 for a hammer, $1000 for a toilet seat. The list seemed to be never ending. But one general stated that the fact the news reports of this came out was a good thing. Meaning that suppliers that overcharged the military was being exposed.

The report of abuses is a similarly good thing for China. And I expect to see more reports. Especially given how news travels so well on the internet.

In conclusion, I want to see corruption weeded out of China. Do you? Or do you just want to relish in it? There are many in China that want to expose this sort of corruption. And the reason is simple, a less corrupt China is a more prosperous and competitive China. And everyone IN China wants to see a more prosperous and competitive China. Many outside of China, merely want to relish in the corruption instead of seeing it weeded out. I suppose it's because they have nothing to gain by a more competitive China.

53 posted on 12/08/2008 1:40:12 PM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life
"In conclusion, I want to see corruption weeded out of China. Do you? "

Commies are godless, lawless, and uncivilized. I want the Commies out of Communist China.

yitbos

54 posted on 12/08/2008 2:32:00 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman
Commies are godless, lawless, and uncivilized. I want the Commies out of Communist China.

I agree that communism should be out of China and democracy should be in its place. But........if a gradual phase out leads to a more properous China vs a sudden ousting with a collapse of the economy, then I vote for a gradual phase out. One only has to look at what happened in the former USSR where the rubble collapsed when the economic and political change was sudden and dramatic.

As a result, China has experienced a much healthier transition than Russia. Russia is highly reliant on oil and natural resources for her exports. China, manufacturing. And China is much better plugged into the world as a free market economy than Russia.

55 posted on 12/08/2008 2:45:08 PM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life
The ChiComs are not exactly undermining themselves. Their long range goals remain the same. All they've done is drop some Marxist economics.

It would not bother me at all to see their regime suffer the same fate as Gorbachev.

yitbos

56 posted on 12/08/2008 3:14:01 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman
It would not bother me at all to see their regime suffer the same fate as Gorbachev.

I'm okay with that perspective. A democratic system is always the better political system. My concern, is that I don't want China to suffer the same fate as the post USSR.

I see little benefit to China, if they suddenly became democratic AND remained an "India" or "Philipines" (both are democracies) for the remainder of the century. But if they transition slowly, and can become a giant sized version of Japan (potentially 10 times larger, economically), then that is the road I want them to take.

I want to see corruption end in China and democracy to flourish there. Probably more so than most on the FR.

57 posted on 12/08/2008 3:49:12 PM PST by ponder life
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To: thetru

Hi Joe, I buy you loooooon tyme.


58 posted on 12/08/2008 3:51:44 PM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: thetru; calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer; pissant; Calpernia

“said one Shanghai-based real estate executive. “However, there are plenty of people here who think this a great time for bottom-fishing.”

Well, that pretty much tells us what China thinks of us.
“Bottom-fishing’...of course that’s exactly what our good ol’ USA free traitors thought of China just a few years ago, isn’t it? What goes around comes around I suppose.


59 posted on 12/08/2008 4:01:31 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: ponder life
"I see little benefit to China, if they suddenly became democratic AND remained an "India" or "Philipines""

Or Chad. That would be fine with me.

yitbos

60 posted on 12/08/2008 4:58:20 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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