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2012 Contracts Now Available on Intrade -- Palin is Underpriced
Intrade ^ | December 5, 2008 | Intrade

Posted on 12/06/2008 12:26:03 AM PST by Kevmo

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To: SmokingJoe
First you have to have a base. We have three antagonistic camps at each others throats. We have no issue, no message, and no spokesman. Fortunately we also have no election.

First we get our house in order then we go on the attack. There is nothing against which to mobilize except what I recommend doing, Sarah Palin, for example, should establish her gravitas by a serious speech on energy attacking the entire moonbat program of Obama. Other conservatives should make their case on other issues.

When we hear the right spokesman with the right message at the right time, we will know what to do. Meanwhile, I repeat, it is wrongfooted to put the search for the spokesperson ahead of the search for the message. The process must be Darwinian. No one should be anointed.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 4:19:26 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Let her win over the Peggy Noonan's and the William F. Buckley Jr.'s

That probably isn't going to happen:

Author, conservative commentator William F. Buckley Jr. dies at 82

I am not going to can sacrifice the conservative movement to appease social conservatives.

Enjoy your 40 years in the wilderness.


22 posted on 12/06/2008 4:33:34 AM PST by greedo
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To: nathanbedford
We have no issue, no message, and no spokesman.”

We have plenty of issues and plenty of messages.
That is not the problem. The Republican base has been telling the leadership what we want for years, but Bush, McCain, Mel Martinez, and the rest of the amnesty loving clowns in Washington stubbornly wouldn't listen, even after contributions to the RNC continued to fall sharply.
As long as we elect a strong new RNC leadserhip that will strongly push conseravtive policies and conservative candidates, the Republican Party will be fine. With a Marxist in the White house, conservatism can only flourish(action and reaction are equal and opposite)..unless we are stupid enough to elect wishy washy RINO's to lead the RNC again, like the idiots that Bush put in charge of the RNC. Bottom line, Gov Plain energizes the base like no one else, and she is going to continue to help win plenty of seats for us come 2010, and have a very good chance of removing the Marxist usurper from the White house come 2012.

23 posted on 12/06/2008 4:47:21 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: greedo
I think you'd know I meant William Buckley the third who recently resigned from National Review over his column against Sarah Palin.

As to your cryptic allusion to 40 years in the wilderness, please be advised that is precisely what I am trying to avoid by incorporating all three legs of the conservative movement in a unified whole. I regard myself as a social conservative who supports Sarah Palin. Ronald Reagan found a way to unite all facets of the party into the movement. It is the task before us. It would be much easier for me to sit here and bitch slap the snotty country club Republicans like Buckley than it is to try to find a way to unite the whole party. It would be much easier to seek a celebrity rather than a message.

I want to win the next election not feel good for the next two years.


24 posted on 12/06/2008 4:52:56 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Kevmo
ROFLOL, as if it was any importance what a Irish web site thought.
25 posted on 12/06/2008 4:54:45 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: SmokingJoe
by the way, I endorse everything you said about the Republican national committee and have said much the same many times myself.


26 posted on 12/06/2008 5:02:55 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
William Buckley the third

The guy who actually voted for Obama? Why do we have to "win him over?"

Do you consider pro-life Catholics to be social conservatives?

The Republicans cannot win national elections without their support.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 5:12:17 AM PST by greedo
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To: SmokingJoe

57 States Obama?


28 posted on 12/06/2008 5:16:24 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: SmokingJoe
where Gov Palin energized the base and helped gain an extra 10% in votes for Chambliss, over what the polls had said.

LINK???

29 posted on 12/06/2008 5:26:09 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: SmokingJoe

“Much more qualified on what exactly? Exactly how long has Jindal been governor for? What foreign policy experience has Jindal ever had? What is his executive experience? Please enlighten me.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Jindal is more qualified than Palin in EVERY possible way, with the one exception of charisma. Which is why a Jindal/Palin ticket makes the most sense-—Jindal has the brains, and Palin has the charisma.

Wikipedia doesn’t go out of its way to make conservatives look good, but I expect that both Jindal and Palin would be roughly equally “de-rated”, so that source is valid for a cross-comparison between the two.


30 posted on 12/06/2008 5:44:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: nathanbedford

See post 30.


31 posted on 12/06/2008 5:45:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Kevmo

Palin in 12’


32 posted on 12/06/2008 5:47:37 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: nathanbedford

No one seems to care that Biden is a total doofus. What about Harry Reid?


33 posted on 12/06/2008 5:48:09 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I tend to agree with you but it’s too early.


34 posted on 12/06/2008 5:50:47 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: guitarist
Sarah can’t compete in the big leagues without doing LOTS more homework—

It wasn't so much preparation as much as frustration, IMHO. Do you really think Palin can't name news publications she reads. Palin just needs to check her temperment and understand all these MSM people want to do is destroy her.

35 posted on 12/06/2008 5:54:20 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Yesterday there was a post by another Freeper who alleges that the RNC only helps those of the religious right and he was serious.

The RNC has nothing to do with who runs for offices. We need to stop blaming them. If you're not happy, it's because the right candidates chose not to run or the right candidates didn't have enough support from the base. That is where the trouble lies, not at the top.

Agreed, I believe we've had weak leadership but that is because they can affect the perception of the Republican party.

BYW, I saw Mark Sanford on TV this week and he was very impressive with his knowledge of economic issues.

The MSM does not give Republicans enough good exposure.

36 posted on 12/06/2008 5:56:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: nathanbedford
We have three antagonistic camps at each others throats.

Exactly, and we would rather attack each other than Democrats.

I do not agree that we have no message.

We had the issues handed to us on a silver platter but we tend to run superficial campaigns and ignore hammering the same issues over and over.

We had energy, the economhy, illegal immigration and national security.

Now here comes the real problem--a totally ignorant electorate. Those that voted Obama did it purely on emotion and didn't know that he is bad on all four issues.

37 posted on 12/06/2008 6:00:21 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: guitarist
But she is miserably uninformed on the issues compared to, say, Jindal and Romney, who are ready to run today.

which issues would those be? And being informed on an issue doesn't mean one understands that issue or would make intelligent decisions regarding that issue.

Please tell your friends who are supporting her to quit!

Your guitar strings are wound too tight.

38 posted on 12/06/2008 6:09:49 AM PST by jla
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To: guitarist

“Jindal and Romney, who are ready to run today. “


Jindal looks great but Romney is no conservative, a man who’s goal is to end “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and wants homosexuals to serve “openly and honestly” in our military is not conservative.

Watching videos of him in debates like this one tells you why he could not win his one and only shot at winning a primary, even after spending 150 million dollars in ads to repackage himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4


39 posted on 12/06/2008 6:13:23 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Still waiting for proof of your statement???
40 posted on 12/06/2008 6:19:29 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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