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To: Norman Bates; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; jveritas

Things stink right now. But to put it in perspective, we did have a nice run in the past 28 years. We had the White House from 1980-1992 and 2000-2008. We had Congress from 1994-2006. We also held the majority of the Governorships durng that period. We are could be entering a period where conservativism is burnt out in need of a break. Obama was elected because too many people just wanted to try something new. As bad as things are now, I am confident that we will bounce back. The success of Brit Cameron and Canadian Harper are proof of that. The question is will it take 4 years or 12 years?


10 posted on 12/06/2008 2:52:52 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: yongin
I think it will take a generation. The New Deal lasted from 1932 to 1980. The Reagan Era lasted from 1980 to 2008. So these shifts come and go in cycles. We're now entering a period of liberal ascendancy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 12/06/2008 2:57:22 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: yongin

It’s not “conservative” that is burnt out: it’s he Fake Conservatism associated with RINOS and Bush that haven’t gone far enough to actually live up to their promises to re-direct America into a Conservative nation (aka roll-back the New Deal& Co).


15 posted on 12/06/2008 2:58:37 PM PST by JSDude1 (Like the failed promise of Fascism masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism- Nephi)
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To: yongin

I am willing to bet, we will gain plenty of seats in the House come 2010, so far as we elect a proper conservative RNC Chair, boot out the amnesty loving, anti-ANWR drilling people that the Bush/McCain cabal have left us with, and work hard to nominate strong conservative candidates to stand in the 2010 elections in seats that are currently held by the Dims. If the Bush RNC was not been asleep and had worked to remove Stevens and put in a solid, non-corrupt Republican candidate, we would have the US Senate seat in Alaska by now.


17 posted on 12/06/2008 2:59:58 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: yongin; goldstategop; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

The lesson from Canada seems to be “only have 1 right of center party and hope the main left party remains scandal plagued and incompetent”.

The lesson from Britain is “let the economy suck after the other party has been in charge for 15 years and talk like a moderate climate change climate change green green”.

For us the sheen on his majesty needs to come off. I don’t believe there has been some liberal sea change. Bush and GOP incompetence and failure to keep their promises coupled with a recession gave the left this opening. In a few years most of those college aged Obamites will (hopefully) cease caring about “green politics” and “gay rights” and be worring about feeding their families like most people.

In the short term we need far-left overreaching and incompetence or else Barry will probably get another term.

Continued economic crisis could result in a swift rebound OR could result in a FDR style disaster depending on how stupid America really is.


29 posted on 12/06/2008 5:13:09 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: yongin

Excellent analysis. The Republicans cannot keep winning every elections. No party can win every elections in a democratic system or else it will not be a democracy anymore. In 2008 every odd under the sun was against the Republicans and hence we lost. The news about the demise of Republicanism and Conservatism is greatly exxagerated.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 6:43:37 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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