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What's with Ben Stein?

Posted on 12/06/2008 3:09:54 PM PST by EveningStar

What's with Ben Stein, anyway? He's been acting a bit goofy for a while now, but what he said yesterday makes me wonder if he's lost it.

Michael Medved had Stein on his show yesterday. Ben made several pronouncements:

-- He supports the bailout. Moreover, he would bail out states if needed.

-- He was vehemently opposed to the Sarah Palin pick for VP. I checked out a past YouTube video where he was quite vitriolic about it.

-- He's for taxing the rich at a higher rate. OK. I already knew about this. But, WTFF???

No. I don't think he supported Obama in the election At least I hope not.


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To: EveningStar

He’s gone to the dark side.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 3:31:01 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: CE2949BB

WHY? ITS TRUE!


22 posted on 12/06/2008 3:32:40 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: DoughtyOne
but the inability of the evolutionist to face reality, makes the intelligent design folks look like sages

Their opponents' tendency to immediately resort to insults makes the ID folks look alot more even mannered as well.

23 posted on 12/06/2008 3:32:48 PM PST by skeeter
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To: All

ID and evolution both have gaping holes in them. My issue with both is that both sides feel like it is an all or nothing proposition, that no compromise is possible in science.

Once you start shutting out other theories or idea then your science is dead.

I watched Steins movie Expelled, it was thought provoking at points but you could tell he had the fervor of a “True Believer” and his interviewees on the other side were wacky as hell as well.

That being said, I have felt for a long while that old Ben was indeed his own man and doesnt really subscribe to either side of the political spectrum.. And I can respect that.


24 posted on 12/06/2008 3:35:42 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: EveningStar

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension
as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle-ground between
light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the
pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of
imagination. It is an area we call the “Twilight Zone”.


25 posted on 12/06/2008 3:36:01 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Mr. Peabody

Nah He went to Gold in June-July when things started looking like ZERO had conned his way onto the ballot!:-)


26 posted on 12/06/2008 3:36:17 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: EveningStar

Ben Stein is a Nixon conservative. In other words, he’s a liberal.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 3:37:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Birdwatcher

...says the guy who can’t prove a damned thing with regard to a a solid irrefutable lineage of omeba to Man.

I am always entertained by the pseudo scientists out there who think they have the final word on anything.

Yes, there are questions that I have concerning both creation and evolution. Neither can prove it’s major points. At least the folks who believe in creation understand what faith is. Those who support evolution deny that they must indulge in it to believe their pipe dream.

Now, perhaps you explain how some contemporary beliefs accepted by the scientific community today, are diametrically opposed to beliefs held even twenty years ago. There are plenty out there, and much more if you increase that time frame to eighty years. And in another twenty, theories we have today will also be turned on their heads.

Evolution is a theory. The end. Other theories deserve equal billing.


28 posted on 12/06/2008 3:39:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: EveningStar

Maybe he’s made anough money off the conservatives and has decided to switch because he can make money off the lefties now. I have noticed several are going that route.

What cheap cowards.


29 posted on 12/06/2008 3:41:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: EveningStar

What happened to his son, who was addicted to a video game and had to be sent away to school? How old is he now?


30 posted on 12/06/2008 3:41:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Birdwatcher

“There is no evidence for creationism and anyone who thinks the world is 7000 years old”

yes there is. The Word of G-d is the best evidence you can get.


31 posted on 12/06/2008 3:42:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: skeeter

I agree. Most everyone I know believes in evolution. We just keep it in perspective.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 3:42:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Expelled" is maddening to discuss on this forum. I saw it for the 1st time the other night, and was profoundly intrigued. I then went back into the archives to see the discussions when it first came out, and folks made irrelevant comment after irrelevant comment. Why?

Stein's thesis: 1) some reputable scientists and journalists who have broached, or pursued the subject of ID, have been attacked by the establishment
2) Evolution has yet to explain first sources, and when one of the major thinkers in this camp (Dawkins) attempted to explain the beginning, he speculated on an advanced alien species who may have "seeded" our world to create that first cell - but under no circumstances was it God

He uses the metaphor of the Berlin Wall: you better keep on our side if you know what is good for you. He also shows how the application of evolution can, and did, lead to Naziism and the holocaust, eugenics, and now abortion.
33 posted on 12/06/2008 3:43:02 PM PST by jobim
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To: USAFJeeper

Actually, I think a lot more people on the creationism side buy into evolution as a concept. We see clear change in species due to the selection processes, or as a result of geographical or climate changes. They just don’t see it as the origin of man.

On the other hand, evolutionists cannot accept creationism on any level.


34 posted on 12/06/2008 3:45:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: EveningStar

I thought the same thing last time I saw him on TV- I thought he was a conservstive


35 posted on 12/06/2008 3:52:09 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Mr. Peabody

He’s in full panic mode. His investments have gone south.


That is my take too. His earlier pronouncements on the economic crisis were way, way off. He likely made some heavy investments (thinking he was buying on a dip) that turned sour. He may well have lost enough $$ to make him question his worldview—that is another way some conservatives become liberal. He certainly looks physically worse and his voice sounds very hoarse.


36 posted on 12/06/2008 3:52:51 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: EveningStar
Before this thread gets completely hijacked, I will agree with you that Stein seems to have lost his mind.

Either that or he's a fair-weather conservative, and now that a severe economic bubble has burst, he's jumped ship to join the FDR types.

37 posted on 12/06/2008 3:55:08 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Gator113
"There is a Fifth Dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity"



38 posted on 12/06/2008 3:55:19 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: EveningStar
Yeah. What really bugged me about it was that he misrepresented the evolution side.

With that movie he has joined the Michael Moore school of film making.

39 posted on 12/06/2008 3:57:41 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Well, a liberal is a conservative who has made so much money, that they couldn't possibly spend it in their lifetime."

. . . who feels guilty and hasn't thought of charity.

yitbos

40 posted on 12/06/2008 3:59:27 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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