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Pak on track to being named terrorist state
The Times of India ^

Posted on 12/06/2008 3:39:54 PM PST by Xth Legion

WASHINGTON: The United States is dusting off a long-discarded proposal to declare Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism. But with the Bush administration now in its final six weeks in office, a decision in this regard is being left to the incoming Obama government, sources said, contingent on corrective actions taken in the meantime by Islamabad to the satisfaction of India, US and other countries affected by Pakistan's toxic export of death.

US intelligence circles are now re-evaluating Pakistan's contribution to the war on terror, and the ISI's dominant role in the country and its ties with jihadi outfits, at the behest of the Bush administration . The White House itself lost faith in the Pakistan Army's bonafides several months ago which led to Washington's decision to withdraw support to military ruler Pervez Musharraf and back a new civilian government, officials and congressional aides who spoke on background explained. The decision to dump Musharraf was taken at vice-president Dick Cheney recommendation, they added, because of evidence that Pakistan was continuing to help Taliban elements attacking Nato forces.

Now the Bush administration is even more convinced that the Pakistani Army and its intelligence arm ISI, who still calls the shots in Islamabad, are continuing their toxic policies. But firm action against them is constrained by both the transition phase in Washington and the US dependence on Pakistan to maintain supply lines to its troops in land-locked Afghanistan. Officials are now re-examining options in this regard, particularly US leverage against Islamabad if Pakistan considers interdiction strategies.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; gwot; india; islam; jihad; kaliyuga; mohammedanism; pakistan
This is really starting to heat up....
1 posted on 12/06/2008 3:39:54 PM PST by Xth Legion
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To: 31R1O; PapaBear3625; publana; RadioCirca1970; TheBlueMax; WLR; iThinkBig; Molly K.; bayouranger; ...

Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

2 posted on 12/06/2008 3:40:53 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: Xth Legion

Bump


3 posted on 12/06/2008 3:41:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Xth Legion

Rogue elements


4 posted on 12/06/2008 3:42:03 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Xth Legion

Before or after they get the next batch of F-16’s? </sarc>


5 posted on 12/06/2008 3:44:05 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Xth Legion

India, get it going, before Obama gets into office.


6 posted on 12/06/2008 3:49:11 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Xth Legion

I doubt it. My faith in Indian news sources is very weak. Nothing against India as a country, but their news media seems to get things wrong on a regular basis.


7 posted on 12/06/2008 3:53:42 PM PST by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: Xth Legion

how will we be able to do anything in afghanistan?


8 posted on 12/06/2008 4:01:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: ari-freedom
how will we be able to do anything in afghanistan?

Let India destroy Pakistan utterly, and we won't need to be in Afghanistan any more.

9 posted on 12/06/2008 4:03:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: PapaBear3625

You might be on to something there...


10 posted on 12/06/2008 4:09:14 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Xth Legion
It is about frikkin time. Dont expect anything under Condi Rice, though.

India blogs and chat spaces are LIVID with hundreds of Indians posting who cannot STAND Condi Rice coming over and trying to restrain India.

And how would we like like it if India's foreign minister showed up in NYC a week after 9-11 and tried to "cool us down" and counseled us to go slow and not hit the Taliban and al Qaeda? Let's not be hypocrites and also meddle in sovereign nation's affairs, i.e. an ally that has been mercilessly attacked which included victims with American nationality!

We would tell them to get the hell out of our business.

Step one: Deny ALL Pakistan travelers access to the United States, I dont care, student, businessman, academic, whatever. Turn them back and notify airlines not to board Pakistan passport carriers heading for the USA. NOW.


11 posted on 12/06/2008 4:10:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: Xth Legion

Gee, I’ve always thought it was great policy for us to be supporting a rogue state running a narcoeconomy, a “secret” nuclear proliferation business, 20,000 feral jihadi madrassas, a lawless inner state (NWFP), a corrupt intelligence service (ISI), and on and on and on in the seething cauldron of dark and satanic evil that is Pakistan.

This is our “partner” in the “war on terror”, over and above the republican and democratic capitalist nation that is India.

For this debacle alone I will never, ever forgive the GWB Administration.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 4:15:18 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

>>>>>India blogs and chat spaces are LIVID with hundreds of Indians posting who cannot STAND Condi Rice coming over and trying to restrain India.<<<<<<<

It is mind-numbing, revolting, insulting (to me as an American), and just plain shameful.

The Indians have been up against Islam for 1,400 years. They have been attacked *hundreds* of times since our 9/11, and many many more before that.

They know what to do.

Condi Rice should have stayed away and at best (worst?) made some phone calls.


13 posted on 12/06/2008 4:20:13 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Xth Legion

Obama has said he will use the military to strike in Pak.

If he goes through with this decision, hard core left will freak.


14 posted on 12/06/2008 4:22:06 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Anthony Kennedy: The 2nd most important person in Government 2009-2013. Pray for his good health.)
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To: elmer fudd

>>>>>My faith in Indian news sources is very weak. <<<<<

IMO they’re about on par with our rapidly declining press in the USA.

Some that I’ve come to quasi-trust are The Times Of India, Mumbai Mirror, NDTV Live, The Economic Times, The Hindu, and a few more I can’t recall.


15 posted on 12/06/2008 4:24:39 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: PapaBear3625

after watching India’s tepid response to terror all these years, I’d bet on Pakistan winning.


16 posted on 12/06/2008 4:31:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“India blogs and chat spaces are LIVID with hundreds of Indians posting who cannot STAND Condi Rice coming over and trying to restrain India.”

Indians now know what Israelis felt all these years.


17 posted on 12/06/2008 4:33:50 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: ari-freedom
ACTUALLY, in the last 50 years, India may well have had more of its citizens die to date as a result if Islamic terrorism (not counting wars Arabs launched in Israel) than Israel had. This was one in a LONG series of Islamic terrorist attacks inside India. It only got major US attention because US and UK citizens were targeted, and also the visibility of the targets they hit.

Blowing up a train in Mumbai or Delhi killings hundreds has meant NOTHING to these Pakistanis and Indian muslim sympathizers.

18 posted on 12/06/2008 4:52:19 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: Xth Legion

Bump.


19 posted on 12/06/2008 4:53:26 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: angkor
For this debacle alone I will never, ever forgive the GWB Administration.

I'm sure they will manage somehow to muddle along knowing full well they will never, ever have your forgiveness...

20 posted on 12/06/2008 4:58:55 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Some names I will never, ever dignify with a Capital letter again!)
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To: Xth Legion

The Omamunist went to Pakistan for several weeks between schools; his roommates at Occidental were Pakis and they apparently arranged to have him go over. The Obamunist has Paki connections. Don’t expect The Obamunist to give India any support if India decides to take care of business vis-a-vis Paki.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 5:12:18 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: top 2 toe red

>>>>>>I’m sure they will manage somehow to muddle along knowing full well they will never, ever have your forgiveness... <<<<<<

You missed the point, which is......

....Do *you* support the GWB Pakistan policy?


22 posted on 12/06/2008 6:20:56 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Xth Legion

Pakistan a terrorist state? What a big surprise.


23 posted on 12/06/2008 6:22:18 PM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: top 2 toe red
I'm sure they will manage somehow to muddle along knowing full well they will never, ever have your forgiveness...

Or a Republican majority for the next decade.... Thanks President Bush.

L

24 posted on 12/06/2008 8:01:18 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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Kurukshetra War - Kali Yuga ping...

To be added to or removed from this ping list, please FReepmail Sir Francis Dashwood.

25 posted on 12/06/2008 9:14:28 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: elmer fudd
My faith in Indian news sources is very weak. Nothing against India as a country, but their news media seems to get things wrong on a regular basis.

No different than here in the West. Many of the Indians I know hate the news media.

26 posted on 12/06/2008 9:16:40 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If I were GWB, I would...

1. Make Mecca the modern day Hiroshima.

2. Resign, and let Cheney take over.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 9:24:54 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Or I suppose it simply could be that I'm reading a selection of Indian articles that would be of interest to an American and that Indian reporters don't have much more insight or understanding of us than we do of them. Perhaps if I read the local or national news my opinion would be different.

It's kind of like when you read European takes on American politics. You wonder how they can get so much so wrong. I find it's usually not a matter of bias either. They're just somewhat clueless.

28 posted on 12/06/2008 9:58:01 PM PST by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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