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LA-04 Open Thread (Fleming (R) v Carmouche (D))
Me | December 6, 2008 | Me

Posted on 12/06/2008 7:12:05 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative

Open thread.

Live results here.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: carmouche; fleming; louisiana; runoff

1 posted on 12/06/2008 7:12:06 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Not encouraging so far... though Cao is starting off nicely.


2 posted on 12/06/2008 7:19:48 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Bogey78O

Though looking at the breakdown that includes a lot of the Jefferson area.


3 posted on 12/06/2008 7:20:52 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Bogey78O

Looks like a loss. Fleming is down 3% with only about 100 precincts to come in. Unless there are a lot of GOP votes outstanding. Fleming is going down and going down very hard. Caddo parish is only half in and it’s 2-1 for Carmouche.

F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 12/06/2008 7:22:37 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Carmouche has about a 2,000 vote lead, but strongly Republican Bossier Parish has only 10 out of 75 precincts in, and Caddo Parish has only 27 precincts left out. But in this low-turnout environment, it’s tough to say whether Bossier can close this gap.


5 posted on 12/06/2008 7:23:55 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I believe Louisiana is like Georgia, you have to get 50% plus one to avoid a runoff, don’t think Carmouche is going to make that.


6 posted on 12/06/2008 7:25:07 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Bogey78O
Don't click the links below - they won't work.
Parish William J. Jefferson Malik Rahim Gregory W. Kahn Anh "Joseph" Cao
Jefferson, 59 of 100
Click here for Results by Precinct
4,136 90 98 7,150
Orleans, 80 of 392
Click here for Results by Precinct
3,628 354 80 4,508



7 posted on 12/06/2008 7:25:34 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Patrick1

A plurality is enough to win outright here.


8 posted on 12/06/2008 7:29:11 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

I stand corrected.


9 posted on 12/06/2008 7:29:54 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: PAR35

Click here for Results by Parish
7,764 38.73% William J. Jefferson, D -
444 2.22% Malik Rahim, G -
178 .89% Gregory W. Kahn, L -
11,658 58.16% Anh "Joseph" Cao, R -

U. S. Representative, 4th Congressional District
557 of 640 precincts reporting
Click here for Results by Parish
38,219 49.22% Paul J. Carmouche, D -
36,249 46.68% John Fleming, R -
583 .75% Gerard J. Bowen, Jr., O -
2,598 3.35% Chester T. "Catfish" Kelley, N -

10 posted on 12/06/2008 7:29:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: All

Remember though Carmouche is very socially conservative, even if he wins, it’s not as bad as it might first seem.


11 posted on 12/06/2008 7:30:08 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: PAR35

Looks like Catfish cost them the majority. don’t know who his supporters are but he could end up being the “Perot” in this one.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 7:31:44 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Unfortunately, Bossier is highly unlikely to have enough votes to erase the Rat’s lead.

Take a look at the some of the individual precincts in Caddo Parish (Shreveport). There are plenty where the votes are about 200-0 (yes, literally ZERO for the Republican) in favor of the Rat.

Those sure are some well-trained monkeys....


13 posted on 12/06/2008 7:34:07 PM PST by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipluate it START bleeding)
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To: PermaRag

Yeah, this one’s done. I knew it’d go this way. Divided Republican base, bad candidate, etc. Four for Four: LA-05 in 02, LA-03 in 04, LA-06 and LA-04 both this year. (We did get two of those back, though)


14 posted on 12/06/2008 7:36:20 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: PermaRag

Dang, “Frozen Assets” Jefferson is sure getting a scare. He’s even behind in Orleans Parish by around 200 votes.


15 posted on 12/06/2008 7:39:29 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

How do liberal Democrats win races like these? McCery won by 20 pts every time. Now we have a left-winger who SAYS he’s conservative on abortion and guns and wins?


16 posted on 12/06/2008 7:40:10 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Now we have a left-winger who SAYS he’s conservative on abortion and guns and wins?

That's pretty much the only way that the Dems have been able to pick off GOP seats in any but the most left-leaning districts - by running to the Right of the Republican on social issues.

Which - one would think - should be instructive to the "dump the social conservatives" crowd of liberaltarians that helped cost us elections this year.

17 posted on 12/06/2008 7:49:10 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: PAR35

603 of 640 precincts reporting:

Carmouche 41,794 49%
Fleming 39,936 46.82%

All remaining precincts are in Bossier Parish. Fleming currently has 4,750-2,954 lead in that parish.


18 posted on 12/06/2008 7:52:08 PM PST by smith5460
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Not trying for false optimism here, but this MAY not be over yet:

100% of Caddo is now in and Carmouche is up by 1,800 votes overall.

50% of Bossier is in, and Fleming won the first 50% by: 1,800 votes.

All other Parishes are in.


19 posted on 12/06/2008 7:52:43 PM PST by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipluate it START bleeding)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

278 of 492 precincts reporting:

Cao (R) 20,203 53.90%
Jefferson (D) 15,898 42.42%

14 precints left in Jefferson Parish. Cao has 4,100+ vote lead in that parish.
200 precincts left in Orleans Parish. Cao has 227 vote lead in Orleans Parish.


20 posted on 12/06/2008 7:54:04 PM PST by smith5460
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To: St. Louis Conservative

These ‘Catsh—’ and Barr voters are the most ignorant people on the face of the earth. Do they understand that we do not have a parlimentary system or one where parties are awarded seats based upon the portion of the vote they get? Every Barr or Catsh— vote was a vote for the dim. If you are one of these voters, to paraphrase Shakespeare, you’re ‘protest vote’ is a vote made by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 8:01:42 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: smith5460

All precincts reporting:

Fleming (R) 44,497 48.07%
Carmouche (D) 44,141 47.69%

Fleming wins the 4th CD of Louisiana.


22 posted on 12/06/2008 8:04:37 PM PST by smith5460
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To: smith5460

2nd CD (388 of 492 precincts reporting)

Cao leads Jefferson by 5,200+ votes. Still has a 800 vote lead in Orleans Parish.


23 posted on 12/06/2008 8:05:41 PM PST by smith5460
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To: smith5460

skin tight... recount assured. Great news though.


24 posted on 12/06/2008 8:05:59 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: smith5460

Wow when I was on here a couple of hours ago it looked like he wasn’t going to pull it off...great news there.


25 posted on 12/06/2008 8:08:49 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: smith5460

Okay now I’ve got egg on my face. I gave up on Fleming too soon.

But Cao...wow, I think we may actually win this one.


26 posted on 12/06/2008 8:09:51 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Yep, Cao is projected the winner.

Now I’ve entered the Twilight Zone for sure.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 8:18:41 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
As usual, don't click the links:

Louisiana Secretary of State
Unofficial Election Results Inquiry
Results for Election Date: 12/06/08

12/06/2008 22.24.50



U. S. Representative, 2nd Congressional District
391 of 492 precincts reporting
Click here for Results by Parish
23,985 43.27% William J. Jefferson, D -
1,630 2.94% Malik Rahim, G -
467 .84% Gregory W. Kahn, L -
29,345 52.94% Anh "Joseph" Cao, R -

U. S. Representative, 4th Congressional District
640 of 640 precincts reporting
Click here for Results by Parish
44,141 47.69% Paul J. Carmouche, D -
44,497 48.07% John Fleming, R -
675 .73% Gerard J. Bowen, Jr., O -
3,245 3.51% Chester T. "Catfish" Kelley, N -

28 posted on 12/06/2008 8:28:25 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Lou Budvis
"you’re (sic) ‘protest vote’ is a vote made by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing."

Or it is the votes of conservatives that want to punish the republicans who have abandoned conservative principles.

29 posted on 12/06/2008 8:35:53 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Lou Budvis
Every Barr or Catsh— vote was a vote for the dim.

This is the "logic" of a Republibot who has drunk the Kool Aid of RINOs. These people think the Republicans own our votes and we owe it to them to vote for any bozo that might have an R after his name, no matter if it's Barry Goldwater or a clone of Barry Soetero.

30 posted on 12/06/2008 8:45:27 PM PST by TBP
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
Yep, Cao is projected the winner.

He might turn out to be a one-termer like ex-Rep. Michael Flanaan of Illinois (Chicago), wh ousted Rostenkowski, but if that turns out to be the case, at least he managed to get rid of a very corrupt Member of Congress.

31 posted on 12/06/2008 8:47:04 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

Final results in LA-02 are in: Cao wins but by only 50%-47%.

But the fact that he won at all is astonishing.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 8:51:14 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Actually nearly all those “pro-life, pro-gun” rats defeated “pro-life, pro-gun” Republicans so they didn’t run to the “right of the Republicans” they agreed or pretended to agree with conservative positions.

Basically they ran against Bush but never mentioned they were democrats and would vote 80% with Pelosi.

You are right though dismissing social conservatives would be a disaster. Just like Huckabee’s idea to dump fiscal conservatives would be a disaster.


33 posted on 12/06/2008 11:31:50 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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