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Caos Do Fly, At Least In New Orleans (The Dirt: GOP pummels Dems in LA election wins shockers)
National Journal ^ | December 07, 2008 | Tim Shad

Posted on 12/07/2008 2:51:46 AM PST by flattorney

In a shocker, there will be a GOP Rep. in New Orleans. In a surprising twist, GOPers won a sweep in LA tonight in two general elections, picking up embattled Rep. Bill Jefferson's (D-LA 02) seat in New Orleans, and holding retiring Rep. Jim McCrery's (R) seat in the Shreveport-based Fourth District. But the surprise of the night, and possibly the cycle, was in the Big Easy. Atty Ahn “Joseph” Cao (R) defeated Jefferson 50-47%. Dems outnumber GOPers here 6-1, and African Americans make up 61% of the vote. But the NRCC must've had an inkling that something was up here, as they dumped about $60K into the CD earlier this week. They attacked Jefferson in automated phone calls for the bribery and corruption charges he faces in an upcoming trial. Dems cried foul, but apparently the message hit home.

While Cao was earning the support of GOPers nationally and in LA -- he was backed by popular Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) -- Jefferson saw no such support from Dems. Indeed, unlike in the GA SEN runoff and in LA-04, Pres-elect Obama stayed out of the contest altogether. The DCCC didn't contribute any funds here, either. This race was all about Jefferson's ethics problems, and Cao ran a very effective campaign to take advantage of the Dem's weaknesses. While the odds are stacked against Cao holding this seat past the '10 cycle, this win has got to be a shot in the arm for GOPers looking for a morale boost after two disastrous cycles.

In the other LA race that was supposed to be the marquee matchup tonight, physician/Subway restaurant owner John Fleming(R) leads Caddo Parish DA Paul Carmouche(D) by 356 votes, will all the precincts reporting. The AP has yet to call the race, and may wait until provisional ballots are counted to declare a winner. Dems had hoped that Carmouche's social conservatism, along with the law-and-order credentials gained as DA, would carry him to victory here. But while Carmouche performed better than most Dems -- he carried six of the CD's counties, while Obama carried just one -- it still was not enough to overcome the huge GOP leanings of this CD. On 11/4, John McCain carried it by over 60%.

The race featured two very high-profile surrogates that potentially could match up in '12 WH race. Obama recorded a radio ad for Carmouche, and claimed that, "To change America and to get Louisiana's economy back on track - I need leaders like Paul Carmouche working with me in Washington." Obama's camp also sent out a call for volunteers and a fundraising e-mail to their LA list. Meanwhile, popular LA Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) endorsed Fleming, which Fleming touted in a TV ad during the campaign's final days. In spending nearly $1.2 million, the DCCC drubbed Fleming on a familiar topic -- his support for a 23% nat'l sales tax, or the "Fair" tax. Dems have been successful in ID, PA and VA in using the issue to turn the tables on the GOP, who usually own the tax issue. The NRCC, which dumped over $970K into the CD, hit Carmouche for his tenure as Caddo Parish DA. In one TV ad, the committee hit Carmouche for not prosecuting a criminal, who was arrested 53 times, under the state's repeat offender law. After his release, the criminal committed 20 more crimes in the span of the next three weeks.

But despite the efforts of Carmouche and Dems to portray Fleming as out-of-step with even GOPers, he was still apparently able to hold on, albeit by the slightest of margins. With these results, Dems have gained a net of 19 seats this cycle. They could potentially pick up two more in VA-05 and OH-15, although votes are still being tallied in both contests. Tonight's GOP wins are big for a party that has been demoralized by two difficult cycles. We'll see in the coming months if tonight's results represent a true shift towards the GOP heading into the '10 midterms, or whether they were just a blip on the road to another successful cycle for Dems.


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LA U.S. House Election Results: In major upsets, Republicans win both Districts 2 & 4

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Please advise-post who manages the FR Louisiana Ping List. With superstar Gov. Jindal, among other matters, it should be an active list the next two years.

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1 posted on 12/07/2008 2:51:46 AM PST by flattorney
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To: flattorney
Recount Expected in LA 4th Congressional District Race
KSLA News – Shreveport
Dec 7, 2008

SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) - Minden Physician and Businessman John Fleming got just 356 votes more than Caddo District Attorney Paul Carmouche during Saturday night's election to determine who will be the next representative for Louisiana's 4th Congressional District. However, after all 640 precincts were counted, Carmouche said he planned to ask for a recount of the ballots.

In complete but unofficial results, Fleming received 44,497 votes (48.07%) and Carmouche received 41,141 vote (47.69%). Independent Candidate Chester T. Kelley got 3,245 votes (3.51%) and Independent Candidate Gerard Bowen, Jr. got 675 votes (.73%). These are complete but unofficial results from the Louisiana Secretary of State's office.

In all, there were 92,558 early and machine votes cast in the election. Provisional ballots had not been counted and are not a part of the total. Carmouche cited the uncounted provisional ballots as one reason he would not concede the race once the results had been announced. "For me to concede at this point would be foolish. We've spent a lot of money, a lot of effort, a lot of time in this race, and there are provisional ballots that we don't believe have been counted yet because they don't usually count those (immediately after a race). Democrats usually win those by large margins so the fat lady hasn't sung yet in this thing," he said.

Jacques Berry, a spokesman for the Secretary of State's Office, said the complete but unofficial returns do not include provisional ballots - paper ballots filled out by people who arrived at their precincts, intending to vote, but whose names did not appear on the official registry. Those votes and absentee paper ballots would be included on Tuesday, when all vote totals are added together again and certified.

Louisiana law has no provision for an automatic recount, Berry said, though a losing candidate can request one. However Fleming sounded confident about his win after learning of Carmouche's intent to ask for a recount. "The way this election works is that the person with the most votes wins and the people have spoken," he said. Afterward he talked about his plan to focus on the economy when he gets to Washington. He says his background in both medicine and business gives him a unique perspective as a congressman. "(We should) not allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. They need to stay in place. We also need to look into cutting taxes further to stimulate business," he said.

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2 posted on 12/07/2008 2:52:47 AM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: flattorney
Joseph Cao: Louisiana’s Newest Congressman
3 posted on 12/07/2008 2:59:15 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: flattorney
"...and there are provisional ballots that we don't believe have been counted yet because they don't usually count those (immediately after a race). Democrats usually win those by large margins"

They are provisional because there was something wrong with them. The person attempting to vote was not registered in that precinct or else not registered legally anywhere.

That is the simple explanantion of why the libs win the provisional ballot count.

4 posted on 12/07/2008 3:04:52 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: flattorney

Fleming won, but it was a weaker showing than expected, considering McCrery always won by huge margins, and Jindal endorsed him. He’s lucky the runoff wasn’t the same day as the presidential election, when black turnout would have been a lot higher.


5 posted on 12/07/2008 3:07:57 AM PST by kms61
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To: kms61

Carmouche was a well-known and popular local District Attorney. Been around for years. And the national Dems poured tons of money into the race.

The outcome was always in doubt.


6 posted on 12/07/2008 3:21:32 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: flattorney; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Reagan Man; Clemenza
I am utter SHOCKED by this victory. This is the heart of one of the most corrupt, RAT infested districts in the nation. Before Hurricane Katrina, Jefferson's district was at least as heavily Democrat as mine, and I live in Hussein Obama's HOME district. Even after Katrina, the latest numbers show the district is still over 60% black and over 2/3rds RAT.

I, as everyone else did, expected Jefferson to win overwhemingly no matter how blatant his corruption is, just as Gary Studds was caught butt raping 17 year olds and won by even HIGHER margins. If you had told me yesterday that Cao would get over 20%, I would have laughed in your face and bet you $100 there's no way.

In many ways this is a reverse of my panic on election night, where I felt sick to my stomach seeing a radical Chicago machine candidate with zero credentials winning over states like Virginia and Indiana that hadn't gone RAT since LBJ's 1964 landslide.

I agree this appears to be a fluke in much the same way Dan Rostencowski was ousted in 1994 by one-term Michael Patrick Flannigan due to Rosty's being on trial for corruption (becoming the first, and thus far only, Republican elected to represent a majority city of Chicago district since the early 60s) -- but bear in mind THAT was during the GOP high water of 1994. THIS victory came in the aftermath of the Obamanation. THIS really did make history, far more than a guy with half-black ancestry winning the Presidency did. Let us get behind Cao immediately and make sure he doesn't end up like Flannigan, because the Dems will do everything they can to take back this seat in 2010, and the demographics are overwhemingly in their favor. I am very proud that our nation's first Vietnamese-american Congressman is a Republican. If we can showcase Cao to the world, he and Bobby Jindal can lead us back to victory and become the NEW face of the Republican Party, especially everytime the media tries to portray all those mean nasty GOP voters in the deep south as evil bigots and racists.

The local papers have been rubbing it our face with nonstop "commerative" issues of Dear Leader since Nov. 5, 2008. The Chicago Tribune and Sun-Times greeting me the next morning with a smiling photo of The One and the caption "Mr. President", which made me lose my lunch. Now, it's time to shove this in the face of the mainstream media NONSTOP:


CONGRESSMAN CAO
(R-New Orleans)

7 posted on 12/07/2008 3:27:12 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

We have a large Vietnamese community here. They don’t feel sorry for themselves, they don’t whine, they don’t demand the world bow down to them, they excel at all they do.

I respect them. They are good, solid conservative folks. About half the community is Buddhist and the rest are Catholic.

With the history of this segment of our population so fresh, it is a lesson to other longtime minorities to get with the program; assimilate, work within the system to succeed.

Congratulations Congressman Cao!


8 posted on 12/07/2008 3:42:55 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Islander7

I hope he does a good job.


9 posted on 12/07/2008 4:02:23 AM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: FES0844

Welcome to FRee Republic!

Me too! Jindal rocks. I have followed him for years, long before he achieve national attention. The man is brilliant.

I hope Cao is of the Jindal school.


10 posted on 12/07/2008 4:07:05 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Islander7

I hope so too! It will be interesting to follow.


11 posted on 12/07/2008 4:19:24 AM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: flattorney

I hadn’t seen that chart before. Thanks for posting it. I have to give Karl Rove credit since he pretty much nailed the election results much more than the usual pollsters.


12 posted on 12/07/2008 4:33:03 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Islander7

Congrats to LA.After all they have been thru, they need a break.


13 posted on 12/07/2008 4:35:57 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: flattorney
Atty Ahn “Joseph” Cao (R) defeated Jefferson

His name is not Ahn anything! It is ANH- Joseph ANH Cao.

14 posted on 12/07/2008 4:42:30 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Islander7

According to WWL he has degrees in philosophy, physics and law. It’s definitely a step up from the crook.


http://www.wwltv.com/topstories/stories/wwl120608mljefferson.398b9b60.html

Cao seemed largely caught off guard with the win.

“I’m speechless right now,” he said before thanking a litany of people who he said contributed to his victory. “I came over here when I was eight years old, I had absolutely nothing. I didn’t speak any English. The American dream is alive and well.”

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Though he was the underdog, Cao received endorsements from some Democrat and green-conscious groups as well as the area’s Vietnamese-American community. Cao came to the United States as a child after the fall of Saigon in 1975 and went on to earn degrees in philosophy, physics and law.


15 posted on 12/07/2008 4:46:11 AM PST by CajunConservative (1.20.13 - The End of an Error)
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To: flattorney

Thank God.


16 posted on 12/07/2008 4:47:52 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: flattorney

This gives all of us Vietnam Veterans a good feeling to see a Vietnamese succeed in the political arena. Way to go “Joe”.


17 posted on 12/07/2008 4:57:01 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: CajunConservative

Leave it to Louisiana to pull the GOP out of the fire. Having lived there several years, and worked for a Republican Congressman elected in an 85% Democrat district, I can tell you that this is the poster boy state for the GOP. Although these elections do seem astonishing, I am not surprised with the outcome.


18 posted on 12/07/2008 4:57:03 AM PST by tenthirteen
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To: flattorney
Atty Ahn “Joseph” Cao (R) defeated Jefferson 50-47%. Dems outnumber GOPers here 6-1, and African Americans make up 61% of the vote.

Please note that pandering isn't necessary to win elections.

19 posted on 12/07/2008 5:06:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: uglybiker

Unbelievable. The district has standards of conduct.


20 posted on 12/07/2008 5:09:36 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find!)
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To: tenthirteen

The silent majority has had enough here.


21 posted on 12/07/2008 5:10:24 AM PST by CajunConservative (1.20.13 - The End of an Error)
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To: flattorney
When will the press declare these votes to be a repudiation of the Obama administration? If it was the other way around they would be crowing about the death of Bush and republicans everywhere.
22 posted on 12/07/2008 5:17:26 AM PST by engrpat (End the National Nightmare on 1-20-2013)
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To: BillyBoy
If I were the headline writer...

Voters Put William "Cold Cash" Jefferson on Ice

23 posted on 12/07/2008 5:23:43 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: Islander7

Islander7 wrote -

“We have a large Vietnamese community here. They don’t feel sorry for themselves, they don’t whine, they don’t demand the world bow down to them, they excel at all they do.

I respect them. They are good, solid conservative folks. About half the community is Buddhist and the rest are Catholic.

With the history of this segment of our population so fresh, it is a lesson to other longtime minorities to get with the program; assimilate, work within the system to succeed.”

..... I won’t name any names or places, but my cousin was at one time pretty highly placed in Democratic state government in the NE [1980’s]. He related a story to me of a private lunch conversation he had with a local NAACP leader. This fellow articulated some real embarrassment and concern about the fact that refugees from Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam - many of whom had [like the Hmong] came from primitive jungle societies and spoke no English at all, had managed as a social group in a single generation to reach economic and professional levels that his people had been unable to achieve over several decades despite every possible assistance and preference being accorded to them by government.

Thre’s a lesson in there.


24 posted on 12/07/2008 6:10:17 AM PST by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: flattorney

Congratulations to Mr. Cao. What an achievement! Woohoo!!!!


25 posted on 12/07/2008 6:34:16 AM PST by bergmeid
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To: flattorney
In spending nearly $1.2 million, the DCCC drubbed Fleming on a familiar topic -- his support for a 23% nat'l sales tax, or the "Fair" tax. Dems have been successful in ID, PA and VA in using the issue to turn the tables on the GOP, who usually own the tax issue.

Let me guess, they said he wanted to raise sales taxes to 23% - and that's it. Incredibly deceitful if they did so. Governor-elect Bev Perdue did a similar thing here in North Carolina, running ads saying that Pat McCrory 'wants to take tax dollars away from public schools to send to private schools,' period, because McCrory supported some school vouchers.
26 posted on 12/07/2008 6:41:26 AM PST by MitchellC (RINO? GTHO.)
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To: flattorney; Freee-dame

>>>picking up embattled Rep. Bill Jefferson’s (D-LA 02) seat in New Orleans,<<<

+++++

Gee, that certainly has not been a big news headline or “talking point”, has it!!!


27 posted on 12/07/2008 7:01:35 AM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: BillyBoy

I whisper this to friends and am always careful about to whom I say it, but Katrina was the best thing to happen to New Orleans.


28 posted on 12/07/2008 7:02:32 AM PST by Melpomene
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To: Melpomene

Have you said thank you to Houston lately?


29 posted on 12/07/2008 7:07:23 AM PST by Ditter
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To: ThanhPhero

I am interested to know about that. What does ‘anh’ indicate, or mean? And why is it attached to Joseph and separate from Cao?


30 posted on 12/07/2008 7:09:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: CajunConservative
“I came over here when I was eight years old, I had absolutely nothing. I didn’t speak any English. The American dream is alive and well.”

This man took the RIGHT AND CORRECT path when he came here. I had a South Korean guy that worked in my office when I lived in Seattle. When he came to the USA, he did not speak English, and did not have a high school education. The FIRST thing he did was learn the language. Then he went to night school and got his high school diploma. Then he enrolled in college, got his degree, then went to law school and got his law degree. The guy worked his butt off and did it the right way. He didn't whine, moan about it, or look for hand outs. He worked burger joint jobs, janitor jobs, etc., to get his money.

31 posted on 12/07/2008 7:29:41 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

Refugees from Southeast Asia don’t have a sense of entitlement. Because of its obvious PC ramifications, I won’t mention the Bell Curve.


32 posted on 12/07/2008 7:31:30 AM PST by ComputerGuy (not my real name)
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To: ThanhPhero

IIRC Ahn was the Viet word for light, also a name.

I enjoyed reading of your pilgrimage on the home page.
Thanks.


33 posted on 12/07/2008 7:36:29 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

“...This fellow articulated some real embarrassment and concern about the fact that refugees from Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam - many of whom had [like the Hmong] came from primitive jungle societies and spoke no English at all, had managed as a social group in a single generation to reach economic and professional levels that his people had been unable to achieve over several decades despite every possible assistance and preference being accorded to them by government...”

You articulated my point far better than me. Any time there are scholastic achievement awards from any of a dozen local high schools, you can bet there will be a Vietnamese kid among those named.

They have come to dominate the shrimping industry. They are an industrious bunch. This is not to imply their transition was without conflict or struggle. There were many cultural issues that both the locals and the Viets had to adjust to.

They have managed to do what few other groups have: They maintain much of their culture while learning and adopting much of ours.


34 posted on 12/07/2008 7:37:56 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: CajunConservative

See my #34.

Congrats! I have visited the Quarter several times since Katrina. It is better now than ever. If LA, particularly NOLA, will continue electing conservatives, perhaps there will be continued improvements.

Hope you have a Merry Christmas!


35 posted on 12/07/2008 7:41:38 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Ditter
lol... please note that Houston and Harris County booted almost every republican... coincidence??
36 posted on 12/07/2008 7:59:32 AM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: TV Dinners

Yep, I noticed that. Not laughing about it either.


37 posted on 12/07/2008 8:05:04 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Yorlik803
Congrats to LA.After all they have been thru, they need a break.

Finally they will get a smart person who will represent them rather than a than a dumb crook who only represents himself.

38 posted on 12/07/2008 8:07:53 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Islander7

Don’t forget they like to build on every square inch of their property, deal with their own problems their own way, and love backyard gardens. I worked the area for years and probably went to dang near every house in Michoud.


39 posted on 12/07/2008 8:08:17 AM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: flattorney

Not relevant, but Mrs. Cao is very beautiful.


40 posted on 12/07/2008 8:08:25 AM PST by jla
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Love hearing that.


41 posted on 12/07/2008 8:16:25 AM PST by MonicaG (Freedom isn't free!)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

The thing I’ve found about the New Orleans Vietnamese is they’re real thrifty, apply ingenuity liberally and will do almost anything with no fuss. The FOB Vietnamese down there tend to move into a house that’s run down with their entire family. They’ll then work like a dog making money where ever they can . If they really do well they’ll probably open their own business. Hell, they’ll open several. One guy I met was real young and ran a tax service and bail bonds with his wife working the front desk.

Then they’ll buy some property. That’s where they’ll get their relatives to help clear the land where they’ll build a new and much better house (thanks to a relatives in the construction business). I think around Willowbrook around Kim Dr are rather testaments to their drive. The sure sign of a Vietnamese house is the wrought iron fence out front.


42 posted on 12/07/2008 8:17:04 AM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: CajunConservative
“I’m speechless right now,” he said before thanking a litany of people who he said contributed to his victory. “I came over here when I was eight years old, I had absolutely nothing. I didn’t speak any English. The American dream is alive and well.”

I got a little teary eyed over his comment. I pray that he is a wonderful example for those in his district. Congratulations! (By the way, how is his last name pronounced?)

43 posted on 12/07/2008 8:19:27 AM PST by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: BillyBoy

“I am utter SHOCKED by this victory.”

If I read that Daley had become a conservative Republican and an NRA member it would be as believable as this election. I am waiting to wake up and find out that Cao is a sleeper agent for the Democrats and will switch immediately on swearing in.

I may go into the city today and watch the Black Preachers commit suicide, “Oh Happy Day when Jesus Washed “Our” Sins Away.”


44 posted on 12/07/2008 8:20:47 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (On the "Road to Surfdom"is no longer a question.)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

Probably the biggest thing hurting black progress is that the state and popular culture oppose blacks (or anyone else but especially blacks) having stable families. So many black children grow up essentially being wards of the state and this holds them back and cripples future generations. One of the reasons some immigrant groups do well is that they have stable families where people help each other.


45 posted on 12/07/2008 8:21:15 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: flattorney

I think Jefferson is really in trouble after Jan 6, 2009, when he will no longer be a MoC.


46 posted on 12/07/2008 8:32:42 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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One less member of the CBC.


47 posted on 12/07/2008 8:34:29 AM PST by clintonh8r (For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of my country.)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

“Thre’s a lesson in there.”

One our Medical Technologists came over about the same time as CAO. His family did not speak English. Even though he was not born here he now speaks flawless English, is extremely bright, and very conservative. His father-in-law, also from Vietnam, owns a shipyard, and his brothers own large ocean-going fishing vessels. They really grabbed the American dream and ran with it. It required long hours at sea and the whole family working together but they really made it. The parents still don’t speak English but they made sure all of their kids were well educated. They are very pro-family (large). This group caused a controversy in the eastern section of NO when they arrived and refused government aid. Their independent attitude made the local Blacks very mad since the schools they attende couldn’t participate in several government programs because they didn’t have enough students on free and reduced lunch’s.


48 posted on 12/07/2008 8:49:46 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (On the "Road to Surfdom"is no longer a question.)
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To: Islander7

Well said!

And Congratulations indeed to Congressman Cao!


49 posted on 12/07/2008 9:06:44 AM PST by Fudd Fan (The good news: McCain lost. The bad news: well, you know...)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Wonderful tagline. Thank you so much for serving our country.


50 posted on 12/07/2008 9:08:10 AM PST by Fudd Fan (The good news: McCain lost. The bad news: well, you know...)
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