Posted on 12/07/2008 10:08:01 AM PST by vietvet67
Suggested fill-ins for “bleeping”:
“Missing”.
“Hidden”.
“nonexistent”.
“Fabricated”
My question... If the constitution lays out the citizenship requirements, then why is there no path of verification? Is it an “honor system”. IF it is, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard... since when has politician and honor been allowed in the same sentence?
Only when they say it themselves as in " I am honored to be politician" :-)
By not releasing the long form birth certificate, if it is even on file at the Dept of Health in Hawaii, is only delaying the inevitable. The Presidential library for “King Obama” will be pretty empty without the release of the documents which at the present time are under “seal”. Who would want to tour such a library which would be empty save for what the public up to this point know? Who would want to tour a library that only holds a picture of the Jackie Kennedy wannabe? sarcasm intended
.............another Great American Conspiracy Theory
LOL and that file continues to thicken.
No! I detest brainless rules-based approaches like this. It's almost like we don't want to single out Obama. Yes we do. Most Presidential candidates have established family histories in this country and producing documentation is unnecessary. Obama does NOT have established family history in this country which in of itself is a problem for someone wanting to become President of this great country. I can't believe they essentially elected a foreigner for this office.
If the courts will not uphold the Constitution, the people have a responsibility to do it them selves...
That discounts his mother's family.
As a federal employee I had to produce my certified birth certificate, fingerprints, subject myself to an FBI background investigation (and every five years thereafter), submit to a polygraph test at my employer’s request, submit to drug testing at my employer’s request, report any planned trips outside of the country to security personnel, and give an outbrief to security. I am also forbidden to hold a passport other than that of the United States, or to hold dual citizenship.
Some people are just more equal than others I suppose.
We have for a couple of generations now thought only of the court as the place to have these rights vindicated. The Court has often dodged these cases when it finds them inconvenient by finding that the supplicant does not have "standing." I think there is a very high probability the court will dismiss all of these cases on the issue of standing. I say this even though I am aware that there are at least two cases which come at the matter from a different angle which might somehow provide standing. Standing here being defined as an interest in the petitioner which is concrete and explicit enough that the court should hear his claim.
There is however another means for the court to dodge this case which has troubled me from the very beginning. The court might well hold that there are other venues for these matters to be determined. First there is the matter of the secretaries of state of the individual states acting to remove from the ballot someone who is disqualified. Second, there is the possibility that the court might dump this off on some agency like the Federal Election Commission. Third, the court might hold that the matter should be decided by the electoral College saying that this is essentially a political question for them. Fourth, the court might hold this is a matter to be determined by the Senate and the House of Representatives, again, declaring this to be a political question.
These are ready exits to the court if they decide to call this a political question and not a legal controversy.
The “We the People” made the Constitution to limit the Federal Government as to how it is to govern and coin money. It also devised the Judiciary to oversee the Executive and the Legislative.
We also have the right to change the government to any form we want.
We are the employer and have the right to demand proof that the person applying to be the President is qualified to our satisfation.
The Federal Government has forgotten a long time ago who is the boss in this great country of ours.
What else on the cert could require such secrecy? The doctor's name? Absurd. The names of one's parents? I suppose that could be something a few people wish to keep quiet. But one does not ordinarily think of this as the kind of information that must be sealed from public view.
Obama has created the appearance he is hiding something. By invoking this phony argument of confidentiality, the state of Hawaii creates the appearance that it, too, is trying to help him hide something on the birth certificate.
Is there a way you could tell us what level or department of government you work in, that does not allow another passport or citizenship? And why do we ask this of your sector and not the presidency? (I know the CIA has loyalty clauses that perhaps the presidency does not...)
I'd also like to see the wording in your rules list -- this may be your department's attempt to heed the Constitution's "natural born" requirement. Could someone born outside the USA work in your position?
If it is produced and everything is in order, the case disappears along with the conspiracy theorists and the office of the presidency goes on without a hitch. If it is not produced, the potential for future complications could be very significant. We might even end up with President Ahhnold, who could claim that he wasnt really born in Austria, and that he doesnt have to prove he was born here.
This is absolutely possible if Obama is never vetted and serves 4 or 8 years as President.
Hear! hear!!!!
Bambi is already in above his pay grade!
In all my life and of the infrequent times I have been pulled over by an officer of the law {LEO} there has NEVER been a request to see my vehicle Title, and essentially this is the case of Barack Hussein Obama, all his life he only had to show his Registration, this is the crux of the matter and why he was allowed to proceed to where he is now.
Its because of the unique requirement stated in the US Constitution that he must display proof of his origin not his registration form, America has just bought a President but legally they cannot use it because until the title, proof of absence of liens etc. this candidate is questionable by the laws stated in our Constitution.
If Obama manages to skirt this it will go down into history as the greatest embarrassment of America, a hotwired Presidency.
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