That Bleeping Birth Certificate

Intellectual Conservative ^ | December 6th, 2008 | Steven D. Laib

[hoosiermama]

He’s got something like $30 mil left from his campaign and won’t even share that with his fellow Democrat socialist friends.

Sis is predicting that he will take off with the money and find him a nice llttle private island to live on.....Going to HI, he may well be on his way! ;~)

[RegulatorCountry]

It's a veritable house of smoke and mirrors, that's for sure, even here. It's gotten more difficult to tell the wheat from the tares, but things are coming to a head ... so many things, all at once. 2009 is going to be one more interesting year, interesting in the Chinese sense, it appears.

I hope to hear good news tomorrow, regarding Donofrio v. Wells. That would be a start, to putting an end to some of the scheming and deception going on, on so many levels in our country today.

[MHGinTN]

I will predict that the SCOTUS sends the case back to NJ/Wells with stipulation that NJ do the work to prove which candidates are eligible fro their ballots and thus the electors assigned. This will cause the state of NJ to either commit the usual demcorat criminal behavior or subpoena the vault copy from Hawaii. When does Barry and family’s vacation in Hawaii start again? He could bring back a copy, and present an excellent forgery to NJ and then expect all of this to go away. But it won’t, not as long as I can find a venue onto which I can post. I think the SCOTUS has to answer the niggling question of what natural born means in the Constitution, once and for all, and they must do something to scuttle the numerous other suits wending their way to SCOTUS. And they must provide legal cover for the executive branch under which bills sign, treaties signed, and orders issued from same have legal standing and canot be challeneged on grounds of an ineligible fraud pissing in the Oval office bathroom. [And for Barack’s children’s sake, I hope clintons oval office sink has been replaced years ago!]

[nathanbedford]

I like your proposal are much.

[nathanbedford]

please forgive the typo. I like your proposal very much. From

[Fishrrman]

“So Obama won.
He fought all the way to the Supreme Court to avoid showing his birth certificate.
Anyone else, for any other job, and that person would be called a nutcase to spend so much money, to avoid such a simple task.
Clearly its over, but to anyone who thinks about this in a critical manner, its clear that he had a terrible secret to hide.”

I’ve been following the “birth certificate issue” from the time it first became known, but frankly, I don’t think any actions that have been taken up to this point are going to prevent Obama from assuming the office of the presidency.

The operative phrase, however, is “up to this point”. I don’t believe that the matter will be settled on January 20th, or at any time in the future until the facts are revealed and the original birth certificate is unsealed for all to see.

However, our defeat on this issue _today_ should not preclude us from taking action that may bring us victory at a later date. And here’s what I think could be done:

There are still conservative states with majority-conservative legislatures. I propose that between now and 2012, conservatives should concentrate their efforts on or two (or possibly more) states in attempting to pass laws governing the eligibility of presidential candidates, insofar as their qualifications to be candidates in those states is concerned. That is to say, such laws should mandate that the Secretary of State should not permit a presidential candidate (or that candidate’s electors) to be on the ballot unless and until sufficient evidence has been provided to confirm that that candidate meets all Constitutional qualifications to BE a candidate for president, including (but not limited to) the furnishing of an original copy of the candidate’s birth certificate.

Of course, this does nothing to stop the person who will be inagurated on January 20, 2009 from assuming office. But once these new laws are on the books, if that same person wishes to appear on these states’ ballots again in 2012, he will be required to comply with new and specific state laws establishing elibility for office.

I think my proposal is logical and could be reasonably expected to pass, at least in one conservative state. Once done, it would change the game plan for 2012.

- John

[Hulka]

No. . .don’t “give up” as all it means is the adjudicator has to factor in the relatives in the decision process.

Many people have clearances that have foreign nationals in the family.

You are very much correct in thinking The One would never qualify for a security clearance, his list of known violent anti-American associates is the primary reason.

[MHGinTN]

Honolulu

[dusttoyou]

There are probable causes for a challange that have not faced other Presidents, but assuming for a moment nobama is a certified natural born American as so stated in the Constitution, why would any patriotic Member of Congress not challenge his failure to provide authentic evidence? Let’s all hope there is at least one who will say “show me”.

Do you know of any proceedural rules that can make this difficult for any Member to do?

[frog in a pot]

“Do you know of any proceedural rules that can make this difficult for any Member to do?”

I am not at all versed on the procedural rules of the Congress. I hope others who are versed will comment on this point.

The language of 3 USC 15 is pretty clear insofar as it describes the objection procedure. Fortunately, the President of the Senate is Dick Cheney, so the matter should not be summarily dismissed on Jan 8.

O’s handlers have game-played this and we should expect some form of interference or turmoil (as in the recent elections). As I indicate in my draft letter, if the Republicans should simply ask O for evidence, it is almost certain he is prepared to run the clock until Jan 20.

This could be a well-orchestrated turning point in the history of our nation.