Swat Team Conducts "Food Raid" in Rural Ohio

ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com ^ | Thu, 4 Dec 2008 | John Loeffler

[PistolPaknMama]

W is still the Prez

I did notice that. So clinton took children at gunpoint and W took food at gunpoint. God knows what BO will take at gunpoint.

[ColdWater]

You forgot to post:

“Posted: 12/04/2008”

Another unsourced blog entry.

[panthermom]

It wasn’t just GW, it has been going on for years. We as a nation could never live up to the Constitution. We have given away our freedoms and grew government because then we don’t have to take responsibility for ourselves.

[stockpirate]

I did not know those laws existed.

Is you screen name a reference to the Rush song The Working Man?

[stockpirate]

I did not know those laws existed.

Is you screen name a reference to the Rush song The Working Man?

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

I’ll go ya one further,

Name me one, just one activity that you engage in, from the time you get up till the time you go to bed, that the government, federal, state, county or city, does NOT regulate, tax or have laws against.

[factoryrat]

Atlas Shrugged. If you can’t find enough criminals, you create them. Just remember it’s all about control, and those who control the producers.

[DLfromthedesert]

Sorry; it’s the ILLEGAL drug Dealer that should have been persecuted, not patriots PROTECTING our border.

Or maybe you prfer total anarchy.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Local food cooperative searched by state

[SevenMinusOne]

No, we will become a police State when LE does not have to follow procedure (as long as the ends justify the means).

Reality is Compean and Ramos discharged their weapons and then lied / and/or covered up evidence surrounding said event.

Whom they were "shooting at" while CONUS (illegal or not) bears no weight. Nor should it.

Punishment too severe? Question for honest debate and I can agree. However, what they did, discharging of weapons and then not being full and up front about such is a quick and slippery slope to a Gov't sponsored police State. They did deserve time and the loss of their jobs.

And lets be clear, warriors down range do more paper work (required) than either of these two did in their AARs (or lack of), and that is in Iraq / Stan (in a war zone no less).

How many times had either of these agents discharged their weapons in the last year? Last 5 years? Last 10 years? The notion that this wasn't a big incident for them (and their Dept) is absurd. It certainly was so. Full and detailed AARs would have been SOP. It was not done. It should have been. It must be done. We do not live in a police State. Why wasn't it?

Reality is both men are part of civilian LE and both men went about, purposely, to obscure what took place that night. That cannot be allowed.

[Clemenza]

Reality is Compean and Ramos discharged their weapons and then lied / and/or covered up evidence surrounding said event.

The Ramos/Compean cult just will never see that.

[ColdWater]

Nothing about SWAT and jack-booted thugs in the article. Nothing about guns pointed at children for hours. Nothing about holding hostages without access to the phone. Nothing.

[ColdWater]

The Ramos/Compean cult just will never see that.

It's ok for jack-booted thugs to shoot illegals and cover it up. They are the good jack-booted thugs just doing the work that the evil jack-booted thugs don't have time for because they are too busy busting old grandma's for their marijuana.

[DLfromthedesert]

I guess if the cult includes Congressmen Hunter and Rohrabacher, I’m proud to be in that cult.

[Clemenza]

I love both men, but they are wrong in defending two incompetents who covered their a-ses in a criminal manner.

[fr_freak]

And lets be clear, warriors down range do more paper work (required) than either of these two did in their AARs (or lack of), and that is in Iraq / Stan (in a war zone no less).

And very few people on this forum believe that our soldiers should be held to the same level of accountability in war that law enforcement are held to at home, because the circumstances are entirely different. The fact that many lefties want our soldiers to be held to that standard only demonstrates their lack of understanding of combat.

I view our border patrol as a separate entity from regular law enforcement, because they are specifically tasked with dealing with foreign invaders. That's right - they don't just deal with criminals, they deal with foreign INVADERS, often including members of the Mexican military. To expect them to act like local cops on the beat is asinine.

Now, I'm going to assume that you've read up on the Ramos and Campeon case at least enough to have understood where some of the contention is. If you haven't, you should read up before spouting off. I'm not going to rehash all of that here. You can look up all the old threads if you want. The point that I'm going to make is that most people, such as yourself, who are just fine with their incarceration point to the lack of proper paperwork as justification for that sentence. I haven't seen anybody dispute the fact that they let their superiors know there was a shooting, verbally. So, we have a situation where two agents tasked with defending our country from foreign invaders were sent up the river for ten years each for failing to fill out the proper paperwork. We have civilians who kill people who get less time than that.

[fr_freak]

The Ramos/Compean cult just will never see that.

I have seen legitimate concerns regarding the prosecution of those two over and over. You are entitled to your own conclusions, but to refer to those who disagree with you as a "cult" is both childish and lazy as hell.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

I’m going to post your comment on another thread. Imagine all the defunct or unenforced laws that the gov’t can use to oppress us. They won’t even need Congress to pass new laws (although their agencies can do that) - all they need to do is fund the agencies who would carry out the legislation signed years ago.

[nw_arizona_granny]

A poster on the anothread said that there are still laws on the books (executive orders) against “hoarding.” We have no idea what can be used against us. The mind boggles at what this country has become. <<<

As I recall, Clinton made the hoarding law stronger in the late 1990’s and placed it under FEMA.

That is when FEMA suddenly had camps and railcars built to move citizens to them.

Every time I read this article, I see Elian in Miami, with a swat team gun pointed at him.

Ruby Ridge was under the first Bush, but Waco falls into this class and if you will really do some digging, you will find a bunch of deaths, arrests and put out of business, small churches and militia groups......the clinton ‘vast right wing militia’.

True some were ugly groups such as the nazi’s calling themselves a church, they still do.

But the sweep took out a lot of nice people with single churches and I know some of them are legit, as one of the best Christian Churches that I have ever gone to, was just that a Christian Church, it preached from the Bible and God.

Does anyone remember Chuck Harder, that is a difficult story to tell, but I was a listener to him long before clinton was elected and after he told some truths about the clintons, they sicced the IRS on him, until he was bankrupt fighting them.

Then the Ross Perot crowd bought his radio station and did not pay for it.

It is my opinion that the elements of our gov, are already taking control, after all the old clinton bosses are picking up the reins and the crazy commies are in control.

If anyone plans a rebellion, do not call it a militia, call it granny’s quilting bee, hilary hates the militia, as do the rest of the liberals, you have seen how they have a violent reaction to seeing a Marine in dress uniform, imagine what seeing grandpa in camouflage clothing with a gun will do to them.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

I remember Chuck Harder! I used to listen to him when he was on shortwave. Whatever happened to him? I had no idea Clinton used the IRS to defeat him (that was their trick in the 90s, to use tax law to destroy their enemies). I will need to read more about this. Thanks for the information Granny.