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Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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“By this standard millions of Americans would lose their citizenship”
After all the posts you’ve made, you STILL don’t understand that there is a difference between “citizen” and “natural born citizen”? Wow, just wow.
Look, I’ve stopped posting on these threads because while you think this is something to pursue, I think it’s not a good idea. In my opinion if you are born in this country regardless of your parent’s status, you are American end of story. This has always been the case hence anchor babies...you can not change the rules because our guy lost. That being said, everyone has a right to their opinion.
That's the difference. You are arguing opinion. We are arguing the Constitution and the law. The latter matters. The former (yours or mine) ultimately doesn't. We debate, then? Because we (or at least some of us) are tying to work through what the LAW actually says and how it actually applies here.
This has always been the case hence anchor babies...you can not change the rules because our guy lost.
No, that is NOT how it has "always been." That is one of the topics we've discussed here. The rules for becoming a "natural born citizen" have changed over time. That's one of the issues -- which laws apply, the ones in effect when the Obamanation was born (most likely) or the ones in effect now. And we aren't "changing the rules," unless there is some secret cabal that has used a time machine to change the language of the Constitution.
That being said, everyone has a right to their opinion.
We agree there...
It has been this way for many years and will not change because of this election. Good luck.
I thought you said you were interested in arguing facts. Please tell me where snopes, factcheck, and politifact are wrong.
You reject these sources, yet attack me when I point out that the obama birth certificate case was brought by Philip Berg, a 9/11 truther.
If you are not aware that those are Obama supporters and very biased sources then you have not been following the argument. FactCheck and Politifact have been debunked numerous times and I am not going to do it again. Check any thread where they are dealt with and you will see what I mean. What they present is flat out wrong. Factcheck.org is tied to Annenberg and Obama has many long time close ties to Annenberg.
Ask yourself, why has Obama only released the COLB to friendly websites?
Why? To keep people like you obsessed with this issue. By keeping this alive it allows the liberals to paint all of us as a bunch of kooks.
I want you to read this:
Ask yourself this; How is it that Michelle Malkin, National Review, The Washington Times, Fox News, and any big conservative radio talk show host you care to mention, thinks that there is nothing to this? What are all they missing that you and 9/11 truther Philip Berg get?
Where were you the last two years? Off in the jungles of Borneo? I ask because if you had been anywhere near a TV, computer or radio you would be aware of hundreds of unanswered and unasked questions regarding Barack Obama.
The media could charitably be described as grovelling sycophants regarding Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and other issues. What about John Edwards and his extra-curricular activities while running for President as the ‘family man’?
What kind of crazy person would believe the media was involved in a conspiracy of silence regarding that issue? They were of course, but according to your logic only the inhabitants of mental institutions would have believed it? That is until one of the media broke ranks and then we would be allowed to believe it. I don’t need my lords and masters to tell me just what I should believe and when I can believe it.
As for Michelle Malkin regarding the birth certificate...
“Has anyone seen it? Why shouldnt the record be in the public domain for presidential candidates?”
“Lest the Obama campaign start whining about this issue being an unfair distraction, John McCain underwent intense scrutiny of his citizenship status because of his birth in the Panama Canal zone, leading the Senate to declare him a natural-born citizen in April.”
So she wanted the birth certificate released and then suddenly she doesn’t. It was an important and legitimate issue that can easily be dealt with by having the birth certificate released from Hawaii, but now we should all just shut up. David Horowitz flat out says who cares if Obama wasn’t born in the US.
The lot of them can go pound salt. I believe in evidence and logic and the preponderance of evidence suggests that Obama is clearly hiding something he considers important. The evidence that he puts forth to dispute any allegations is always released into the hands of those who are friendly to him, or with a vested interest in his victory. There is hearsay evidence that he was born in Kenya and very little evidence he was born in Hawaii.
Why should I credit the weakest evidence presented under suspicious circumstances just because the media has blessed the Hawaii story?