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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

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To: sten

You asked — “and the reason was... “

The Supreme Court doesn’t have to give a reason...


51 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:27 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: MrLee
I hope nobody here seriously thought the Supreme Court would uphold the Constitution in a case involving the black messiah!

Not as long as N0 played it cool and didn't tweak the Justices noses or dare them or anything. That would've swung Souter and probably Kennedy over to reviewing it. They don't like having their noses tweaked.

52 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:28 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: snowsislander; All

Did the USSC indicate WHO has the standing to ensure a candidate for office meets the qualifications stated in the US Constitution?

Or were the Founders just supposing the Constitution would be followed by gentlemen with a sense of honor?


53 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:38 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: LS
“Yep. Anyone who thought the birth certificate thing was going anywhere was positively looney. It's the same crowd that barked for years in the 1990s, ‘If the people only KNOW x, y, z about Clinton, they'll impeach him/throw him out/his popularity will fall.’ Nope. “

You idiot. Bill Clinton WAS impeached.

Go smear yourself, rather than others. This is not the only case dealing with this issue before courts.

54 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:39 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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To: TommyDale

Tell that to the whacky freepers.


55 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:51 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: cycle of discernment
There is no dissent, no group of Justices who say this should have been considered, and giving their reasons. The lack of a dissent is, in my experience with the Court, a green light for all courts at the federal and state level, to throw out all remaining Obama-citizenship cases, without factual hearings.

The only thing left is a protest on the record in the Joint Session of Congress when it officially counts the Electoral College votes. The protest will not get a hearing and will go nowhere, but that's all that's left.

John / Billybob

56 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:58 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Larest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

‘Yeah, Alan Keyes...will definitely hitch my wagon to THAT star...’

Cort’s case is next and then Gail Lightfoot with Orly Taitz. Keyes case is still in the California Superior Court


57 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:01 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Yes. I havent looked very closely at the Keyes case (yet), but at least he appears to have standing to bring it.


58 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:13 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You're going to see dozens of lawsuits challenging the validity of every law Obama signs.

A few foreign nations are already raising similar questions. Apparently Zero's pride is more important than global stability.

As for FReepers who oppose finding the truth. I really have to wonder how much damage they're willing to do to the country for political gain.
59 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: EagleUSA

And America’s death spiral continues. Unless I’m mistaken.


60 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:38 AM PST by sarasota
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To: tatsinfla

You said — “can’t wait to hear on what grounds it was rejected....”

What makes you think you’re ever going to hear about grounds?


61 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:48 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: seekthetruth

Maybe one of those two will find traction.


62 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:05 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: silverleaf
Or were the Founders just supposing the Constitution would be followed by gentlemen with a sense of honor?

More or less. John Adams stated that the Constitution was good for the governing of a good and religious people and inadequate for the governing of any other.

63 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:13 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ConservativeMind
That's why I added (you idiot) "throw him out". Since I WROTE about him being impeached in a history book, duh.

And you still aren't getting it.

And no, it's not the only case, and yes, the others will have the same results.

64 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:21 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LongIslandConservative

I don’t give Lightfoot’s case much of a chance as the court has already ruled citizen’s don’t have a standing to question. Keyes is the best chance because he was a competing candidate, thus, the standing is different.


65 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:26 AM PST by mnehring
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To: snowsislander

could eventually be in effect our USS Pueblo, Pearl Harbor event, etc.


66 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:33 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: LS

“Yep. Anyone who thought the birth certificate thing was going anywhere was positively looney. “

Please explain why you think the case has no merit.

There is nothing “looney” about vetting a dishonest candidate whose minions forged his COLB on his website. Obama has something to hide.

Obama’s greasiness on this issue is a bad omen.


67 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:38 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: tatsinfla

There will likely be no comment released from the SCOTUS.

But legal experts will offer their opinions, however only liberal legal experts will receive a fair airing of this in media.

They will diminish it saying there is no merit and it is the product of anti Obama zealots.

The fact that there has been tremendous resistance and investment to obstruct producing the documentation that would resolve the matter will go unmentioned.


68 posted on 12/08/2008 7:30:39 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: LS

‘Yep. Anyone who thought the birth certificate thing was going anywhere was positively looney.’

Leo’s case had absolutley nothing to do with the BC issue. It was about dual nationality because his father was British at the time of his birth.


69 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:01 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: cycle of discernment

It is not over. We can start a letter writing (not just emails) to our Senators and Representatives and let them know that any law they vote for which is signed by the Illegitimate President is not valid.

All we need is for a couple of good Senators and Congresscritters to stand up in the Legislature and demand to see Barry’s vault birth certificate. And I think there are a few there who will be willing to do so.

Especially since the Islamic call for Barry to “reconnect” to his Muslim roots.

Is it worth a few bucks in postage stamps? http://www.usa.gov


70 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:09 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The USofA, Conservative, Traditional, Constitutional , , , now it's up to the SCOTUSofA.)
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To: encm(ss)
But, where was Obama born? Did the Supremes answer that?

No, but Mr. Donofrio's case was based on his concerns about Mr. Obama's father's status as a British/Kenyan citizen, and Mr. Obama's self-admitted dual citizenship deriving from his father's citizenship. The Donofrio case raised some interesting issues about natural-born citizenship no matter where the child was born.

Other cases are focused on the birthplace issue, and I hope that one of those makes progress.

I think that it is imperative that Mr. Obama produce all paperwork dealing with his complex citizenship issues: all birth records, both hospital and legal (and I would be unsurprised to find out that there are Kenyan papers, no matter where he was born, since I suspect that his father as a government employee was careful to file papers with regard to Mr. Obama's birth no matter where it might have occurred); all papers dealing with Mr. Obama's visa or citizenship in Indonesia; and produce all passports, both current and expired.

Publishing all documentation would cost Mr. Obama little, and it would serve our country well.

71 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:10 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Gary ripped off money from the Peter Paul case and has been sued.


72 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:12 AM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: cycle of discernment

The Keyes case was (and still is) the best case


73 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:26 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: LS

LS, good luck FRiend, it is like talking to a wall on these threads. If you ask any critical question, even if you agree with the premise, you will be slapped as an anti-Constitutional, Obama lover.


74 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:53 AM PST by mnehring
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To: sten

Not heard. This conference is the high level equivalent of a “grand jury”, where the case is not “heard” but is reviewed in enough detail to decide whether it has any merit at all.

Of note, IIRC, this case _had_nothing_to_do_with_the_birth_certificate_! It revolved around O’s parent’s citizenships, not his actual place of birth.

People must understand that the Supreme Court can only act on what cases are brought before them, and that legal technicalities are extremely important. If no viable BC case is brought before them, they cannot rule on the BC issue!


75 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:10 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: cycle of discernment

> Please do not label “insane” the calling out of illegality.

I believe that I just did.

This mess has been an insane exercise in tinfoil hattery a, last gasp by those that simply will not accept an Obamami White House, just as the Gorefantics held out against Florida 8 years ago.

He’s there. Move on. Work to regain ground in 2010, set the foundations for 2012 and make him a one-termer.


76 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:20 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: cycle of discernment
The social contract, what tattered remains of it were left between the judiciary and the citizenry under the Constitution, is now officially null and void. We are now living behind enemy lines in a coup-led oligarchy.

Time to Resist.

77 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:33 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: Star Traveler
The reason is the same as the one we all heard from our mothers when we were little tykes, “Because I said so.”

John / Billybob

78 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:41 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Larest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: mquinn

“I’ve been saying this for the past week, yea. Maybe now the FR will regain a bit of its sanity and purpose.”

It’s not insane to expect Obama to have to prove he’s legally entitled to hold the position of President of the United States.

There’s too many people here saying “move on... move on... nothing to see...” with this story, and I don’t understand why. This isn’t some right-wing fringe lunatic conspiracy - it has to do with a very real issue concerning a very real document that Obama obviously and clearly does NOT want anyone to get ahold of, as well as a complete and massive blackout not only by the mainstream press but by most of the people we’d previously thought would be publicly demanding this document be produced.


79 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:41 AM PST by Pravious
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To: IrishPennant
Leo was just the tip of a very big iceberg - Loooooong way from over!!!

I appreciate your enthusiasm.

80 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:45 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: silverleaf

SCOTUS is one of the very few courts that controls its own docket so is free to decide, with or without giving a reason, what cases it will hear on the merits. Over 95% of the applications to SCOTUS are rejected without giving a reason exactly as happened here, so the disposition of this case without a reason is not in the least unusual. (Yes, I am a lawyer).


81 posted on 12/08/2008 7:33:12 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Congressman Billybob
"There is no dissent, no group of Justices who say this should have been considered, and giving their reasons. The lack of a dissent is, in my experience with the Court, a green light for all courts at the federal and state level, to throw out all remaining Obama-citizenship cases, without factual hearings."

I do not believe a dissent is written for an application for a writ of certiorari. All they did was decide not to review the trial court record.

82 posted on 12/08/2008 7:33:31 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

“Told ya so.”

Big freakin’ deal...that doesn’t make you an intellect! We all knew it would probably fail..but that doesn’t mean it should....or that we shouldn’t try, and continue to try. That’s what’s wrong with the GOP, with the whole system...people with no backbone to try to correct what’s wrong..even though they get slapped down...then to get up and try again. That’s the American fabric.


83 posted on 12/08/2008 7:33:50 AM PST by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: cycle of discernment

I posted the news a few minutes b4 you did - the post was there ... then it was gone, along with 2 replies ...

What the hell happened to my Post???


84 posted on 12/08/2008 7:33:50 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

Why are you asking me?


85 posted on 12/08/2008 7:34:49 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
Someone tell me again why we should worry if Obammie selects the next 2-3 SC justices????

Look at how well the SCOTUS has done for us after 20 years of a GOP White House. (heavy sarcasm here)

We are no closer to overturning Roe vs. Wade than we were 10-20-30 years ago.

And now this?????

86 posted on 12/08/2008 7:34:56 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: cripplecreek
These "FReepers" also conveniently forget that the Left went after McCain's natural-born citizenship requirements. The Donofrio case also questioned McCain's eligibility.

I guess these "FReepers", who talk tough about how many guns they own and how they're up for any challenge, couldn't stomach the possibility of riots from the Obama zombies. Bunch of phony keyboard warriors...

87 posted on 12/08/2008 7:35:16 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
"I guess we have to pin hope ion the Alan Keyes case?"

Counting the Donfurio case there were 16 suits in 12 states. I don't think today (lack of) ruling affects the other 15.

88 posted on 12/08/2008 7:35:26 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: cycle of discernment

Without reading more ... Cr*p! ;-(


89 posted on 12/08/2008 7:35:59 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: mnehrling
Donofro’s case didn’t question where Obama was born, it started with the assumption that he was born in Hawaii.
That's what's wrong. The assumption was made that the Marxist was born in Hawaii. Therefore, the whole case must be flawed.
90 posted on 12/08/2008 7:36:05 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Star Traveler

one can hope can’t one...??....if they do not give a reason then imho i think the American people should demand answers...this falls at the heart of our constitution....


91 posted on 12/08/2008 7:36:38 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Lmo56

There were several and the mods probably took all down but one. This one apparently.


92 posted on 12/08/2008 7:36:50 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: hgro
And, people are still being encarcerated for stealing a loaf of bread.

VALJEAN 2012!!!!!1!

93 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:11 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: cycle of discernment

Why are you asking me?

***

general information ... I don’t think you did it, but until your Post showed up ... I thought FR was being slammed by hackers.

Does this happen often - posting, then it gets yanked?


94 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:18 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: mquinn

YOUR new regime begins January 20th,2009 good luck pal


95 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:18 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: cycle of discernment

Anyone got any evidence that he wasn’t born in Hawaii? If not, you’ll have a hard time convincing anyone that this isn’t a complete waste of time.


96 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:25 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: mquinn
I’ve been saying this for the past week, yea. Maybe now the FR will regain a bit of its sanity and purpose.

Thank you. I trust Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia and if there was anything to this they would have gone after it. Tinfoil sales have become strong due to some of the posters here.

97 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:30 AM PST by Taking Congress back in 2010
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To: mnehrling

There also are cases coming from EC Electors that are pledged to McCain from several states. This according to the Democratic-Disasters group.
Certainly the Electors would have standing


98 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:45 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: cycle of discernment

No surprise... I didn’t look for this to go anywhere. I don’t know that I want SCOTUS deciding elections but I do know that Obama has something to hide and I am afraid it’s going to bite us in the hind quarters in a very bad way some day.

What do we say when members of our military are put on trial somewhere for following the orders of an improperly elected Commander in Chief?

Or that some treaty or agreement is void because The One signed it?

Thisis not going to go away and I am afraid it going to lead to a president Arnold... or worse.


99 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:52 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: autumnraine

There were several and the mods probably took all down but one. This one apparently.

Well ... at least they coulda told me ...


100 posted on 12/08/2008 7:38:26 AM PST by Lmo56
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