Skip to comments.'Gun control'? One Jewish group says 'Never again!'
Posted on 12/08/2008 4:54:57 PM PST by Copernicus
Friday we discussed the anti-gun efforts of the National Council of Jewish Women, a group that claims to be "inspired by Jewish values."
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership would disagree. Billed as "America's most aggressive defender of firearms ownership," the "twin goals" of JPFO are:
To destroy "gun control" and to encourage Americans to understand and defend all of the Bill of Rights for everyone...
Founded by Jews and initially aimed at educating the Jewish community about the historical evils that Jews have suffered when they have been disarmed, JPFO has always welcomed persons of all religious beliefs who share a common goal of opposing and reversing victim disarmament policies while advancing liberty for all.
They're not a lobbying organization. Their work is done through education, via books, videos, pamphlets...
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
There will always be people who continue to deliver through rain,sleet,snow and dark of night. (And no, I do not speak of the US Postal Service)
Best regards to all,
JPFO has the right idea.
Until the Jews, who have the most to lose in Democrat administrations, start voting conservative, then and only then will I give a big fat rats arse about what they think.
Isn't that the truth. It never ceases to amaze me how these people continue to vote the SAME way and expect different results, kind of the definition of insanity, certainly deluded.
Isn’t that the truth.
Considering that Hitler’s NAZI Germany was a socialist group and they keep voting FOR the socialists.
As in, run, don't walk to the gas chambers?
Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
In Israel inspired by the main Jewish value over the last 4,000 years, the will to survive, our girls, subject to the draft, get the same weapons training as the boys in the army. As for Jews espousing one political viewpoint, if that ever happened, we might even get a majority government here someday.
That’s why I belong to it.
It’s not a jewish-only group. Anyone can join.
Besides the jews who founded this group aren’t the liberal jews on the west or east coasts. They saw Hitler disarm everyone and then well, you know.
“Until the Jews, who have the most to lose in Democrat administrations, start voting conservative”
These Jews vote conservative. So do I.
The National Council of Jewish Women: a group that claims to be “inspired by Jewish values”?? Since when does disarming oneself and forcing others to do so a part of Jewish values? One would think disarming would be the last thing of value. The NCJW must have come from some of those who managed to escape the holocaust rather than survive it and missed out on a real education on how the world was, is and can be again.
JPFO link here...
Here is a great article on JPFO:
The Battle of Athens, Tenn.
As the product of a liberal Jewish home, I can say that I'm the (CAUTION - Racist phrase ahead!) "black sheep" of the family. I'm the one with the motorcycle and all the guns. My fascination with guns began back in grade school, and honestly, nobody in the family has been able to figure that out... Anyway, my mother once told me that "Jews don't believe in guns." I kid you not. To this day (I'm 46 now), I still don't understand what that means. I mean, how can you not "believe" in an inanimate object that obviously DOES exist. I think that she meant that "Jews aren't supposed to USE guns," but them I never understood how she could support Israel and hold that view. Especially knowing that a number of her half brothers that she never met were killed in eastern europe during the 1940s.
Many Jews just have this "disconnect" that really can't be explained in any way. It's quite disturbing, actually.
But less than 20% of the Jews vote with their brains. This group notwithstanding.
To the contrary, they serve as an example of the change you wish to see to the Jewish community. I've sent them money in the past and I will do so again next year.
If you're serious about wishing to see jews on "our side", you should shout in solidarity with them, "Never again!"
Shalom and a whole buncha other Hebrew stuff.
See, now we're cool guys too.
Yep, they help the National Socialists (German or American) load them on the cattle cars.
You are exactly right.
Looking good for Israel, however, with Netanyahu leading in the polls.
shankbear : Until the Jews, who have the most to lose in Democrat administrations, start voting conservative, then and only then will I give a big fat rats arse about what they think.
brushcop: Isn't that the truth. It never ceases to amaze me how these people continue to vote the SAME way and expect different results, kind of the definition of insanity, certainly deluded.
Speaking as a conservative Jew, I couldn't give a rat's ass about either of you either.
Let me tell you a secret, there are "conservatives" who don't want Jews on "our" side.
He's as politically conservative as anybody around here, though, and a blast to hang out with. And he loves to go shooting with me and my wife.
Look at that f’n kraut. I hope my dad loaded a 105 round that took him out personally.
Too bad that most Jews are liberals.
SJackson this is for you to, it was exasperation driving me to say these things so I apologize in offending you.
Yes OKSooner, I “shout” in solidarity with my jewish friends and get mighty exasperated (and we’ve “shouted” at each other!) over the demographics of those voting or supporting Obama! “Come, let us reason together” sounds great but what does it take to convince who I regard as generally very reasonable people, just what Obama is about? Please explain.
Also, am I confusing JPFO with the group that dissed Sarah Palin during that golden opportunity??
We’ve had these talks before the election and drat it, again, demographics prove my point, now more than ever. Give up? No, of course not but as we all slide slowly into some form of slavery, how much more patience will it take? “Seventy times seven” I would imagine...
Some actually do vote "conservative" such as those here on FR. In fact some of those Jews are firearms owners themselves. Don't paint with too broad of a brush, please.
I agree with you that Jews have a lot to lose in 'Rat administrations. But so do all Americans, especially middle class white males - and some of them are Jews too!
My friend that I mentioned is not a guy that I care to argue with either - his brain runs at about ten times the cycle rate of an average person.
In his case, I guess I can be happy to say that I took a friend shooting. He's a shooter now, and I helped. I would hope that he will have some pull with his peeps where I haven't.
BTW, interesting story about this guy, who I won't mention by name. You've heard of "Goldberg", the pro rassler? He grew up here in my home town, and went to the same private Hebrew school as my friend. Goldberg was a year younger. The school put on a rasslin' tournament for the boys - my friend was in 1st grade and Goldberg in Kindgergarten or the equivalent of it. Turned out that my bud is the only human being who ever pinned Bill Goldberg.
I love to tell that story about him. If you could meet him you'd appreciate it.
Oh, yeah, your second question. I don’t know who it was who dissed Sarah that you referred to so I couldn’t say if it was JPFO or not. I would hope not.
The only Jewish group I can think of that "dissed" Sarah Palin during the recent campaign is the National Democratic Jewish Council. That organization can better be described as "leftist" than "Jewish". I'd be confident that JPFO has no connection whatsoever to them.
Yes, yes, of course.
Since these Jews are ardent supporters of one’s right to own guns... you *MUST* now give a flying rats arse about the ‘right to own guns’.
It most likely was the NDJC, a terrible missed opportunity but *sigh* ‘tis passed. I would never intentionally diss my jewish friends, as a dear friend D_____ Wassermann often said, “We must learn to bless each other Ronald, and take a deep breath, then start again!” How can you not love such a man?
I was purchasing his optics from his NY company, he would fly to Texas and practically melt regardless if it was mid-winter here, that’s how big an account we had, or was it that he loved a good “discussion” with a gentile friend that didn’t stay mad? I think that was it.
I don’t know how we’ll get through this, just face into the hurricane, hunch our shoulders and keep on keeping on.
Wassermann, where are you, it’s been 30 years now...
Shalom, for sure
I would whole-heartedly applaud any Jew that didn’t vote for Obama. Could ANY conservative of any stripe vote for Obama??? Not this one.
I do shout NEVER AGAIN!!!!!
I've known two Jewish wrestlers, one pro from decades ago, one college, but not "Goldberg". Sounds like a good story though.
It wasn't JPFO, they're a small Wisconsin organization. Ironically a state with hardly any Jews, and two Jewish Senators.
The anti-Iran rally was organized by several groups. Personally I'd place most of the blame Clinton/Obama. Having Palin only would have politicized the event, and opposition to Iran should be bi-partisan. A shame our upcoming Secretary of State put her personal ambitions above delivering that message.
Yeah, lumping all Jews together is brillant.
I mean given that Jonah Goldberg, Mark Levin, and probably 1/4 of the active posters on FreeRepublic are Jewish folk, you’re a bright spark.
As in the Warsaw Ghetto held out longer against the Nazis than the nation of France?
The “Jews are sheep” meme is a socialist lie.
“Let me tell you a secret, there are “conservatives” who don’t want Jews on “our” side.”
Yeah, seeing more and more of them here.
Too bad the majority of goy voted for Obama.
Rabbi Meir Kahane (z”l): “Every Jew a .22”
NFOShekky (me): “If a 9mm or larger is not available.”
Jew, CDR USN Ret., Life Member NRA, and Republican
Yes, but they do not consistently vote for ‘Rats as a whole.
As we focus on here, Jews at 76%, but not very many.
Blacks, 95%, OK, we write them off too.
Hispanics, 67% Obama, Asians, 62% Obama. If we're not willing to accept minorities who have voted for a D in the past, we're stuck with the 55% of the whites, who voted for McCain.
But then there's age, 18-29; 66% for the one. The good news, 60 and older the GOP got a majority, 51%. I guess, that won't take us far.
First time voters, 69% for The One.
They get a pass, but Catholics, 54%, despite the Life issue.
70% of big cities, 59% of small cities, 50% of suburbs, the GOP depending on their thin 53% showing in small towns and rural areas, I guess.
It seems to me the GOP would be well advised to try to persuade some of those Dem voters based on the issues, not reject them as some would like.
PLEEEEAAAASSSEEEE. I meant the ones that voted for Obama.
Ok, there was the Warsaw uprising, the escape from Sobibor and an uprising at Auschwitz. What did the other 5.25 million Jews do to resist?
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising
April 19, 1943 - May 16, 1943
Nazi Conquest of France
May 10, 1940 - June 22, 1940
Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!