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McCain discusses Irish visa issue [amnesty for illegal Irish]
Irish Times, Dublin, Ireland ^ | 2008-12-09 | Pat Flynn

Posted on 12/08/2008 9:10:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385

The undocumented Irish in the United States were discussed at Shannon airport last night when the Minister for Defence Willie O'Dea TD met former US Republican presidential candidate senator John McCain.

After the meeting, Mr O'Dea said: "We met for about 40 minutes and it was very productive and cordial. Senator McCain has committed to raising the issue of the undocumented Irish with president-elect Obama on his return to the US."

Mr McCain's aircraft made a refuelling stop at Shannon on his way back to the US after spending the past week on a regional tour with two other members of the senate armed services committee, senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham.

Mr O'Dea was deputising for Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin who is on official business in Brussels.

Mr Martin has already committed to seeking a visa agreement with the US authorities for the "undocumented" Irish in the US. He stated last month that "finding a solution for our undocumented citizens is a key priority."

Arrangements for last night's meeting were finalised last Friday but were not publicised for security reasons.

The men also discussed the establishment of the new US customs pre-clearance facility which was agreed between the Irish and US governments last month and which will open in Shannon next year. The facility will speed up the process of entry into the US.


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Flashback to September 22, 2008: McCain Bemoans Fate of Undocumented Irish in America

McCain is an asshat clown.

1 posted on 12/08/2008 9:10:52 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Liz; fieldmarshaldj

McCain is a turd.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 9:11:29 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: MaggieCarta; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...
*Ping!*
3 posted on 12/08/2008 9:12:03 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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4 posted on 12/08/2008 9:12:17 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

There’s a news flash.


5 posted on 12/08/2008 9:14:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; bcsco

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6 posted on 12/08/2008 9:14:18 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

All 3 of them ?


7 posted on 12/08/2008 9:14:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

We accept a million legal immigrants each and every year.

I have yet to hear anyone explain why a million per year is not enough.

If a million is the right number, on what do we base it? And if a million is not enough, on what do we base that?

No one ever talks numbers. They just cast aspersions, that somehow we’re not an inclusive or tolerant or loving nation if we only accept a million legals per year, without explaining what would be the magic number that would grant us absolution.


8 posted on 12/08/2008 9:15:54 PM PST by marron
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To: rabscuttle385

No wonder Sarah couldn’t wait to get the hell away from him. She saw a RINO and ran as fast as she could away from him. I hope McCain realizes that the ONLY reason, and I mean ONLY reason why he got as many votes as he did was because of Sarah Palin. Good God the Republicans could have won this election if we didn’t have this ass clown on the top of the ticket.


9 posted on 12/08/2008 9:20:12 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: marron
Ireland has had an economic and social renaissance. We hardly need to give illegals from Ireland a break..they ain't poor and uneducated. Send them home with best wishes..
10 posted on 12/08/2008 9:21:05 PM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: marron

A million is too damn many. We need to assimilate the LEGAL ones we have now before we admit anyone else. That’s going to take a generation or longer.


11 posted on 12/08/2008 9:25:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ireland is a developed country with one of the strongest economies in Europe. SEnd the illegals back home at expense.
Ireland should worry about their own illegals. Sadly, Ive head that the Marxist IRA kneecaps those trying to fix the problem in Ireland.
12 posted on 12/08/2008 9:26:11 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Would someone please unseat McCain in a primary!!

He’s about a good as being as senator as he was a presidential candidate....pathetic.


13 posted on 12/08/2008 9:42:22 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Oldexpat
"Ireland has had an economic and social renaissance. We hardly need to give illegals from Ireland a break..they ain't poor and uneducated."

I think they mean the "travellers"...sort of Irish crime wave...

1. Seal the driveway scam

2. Identity theft

3. Medicare fraud

4. Insurance fraud (fake accidents)

and the best of all....ripped off Home Depot nation wide for $millions in fake product bar codes.

14 posted on 12/08/2008 9:47:26 PM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain is a turd.

Let me guess, you voted for him.

15 posted on 12/08/2008 9:57:08 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished
Let me guess, you voted for him.

I voted third-party this year.

16 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:26 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
I know what we all think amnesty is, and I really wanted to amnesty this Irish person a few years ago.
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17 posted on 12/08/2008 10:24:15 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: rabscuttle385
He stated last month that "finding a solution for our undocumented citizens is a key priority."

Simple. Follow the law.

Why do these folks ignore the law and then whine about finding a "solution" to the issue they created and already have the power to solve? We don't need no stinkin' agreements or special visas or new laws. And it doesn't matter if you're from Ireland or the Philippines or Mexico or Malawi. Follow the darn laws that are in place--and that includes enforcing those laws!

18 posted on 12/08/2008 10:28:16 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rabscuttle385
Yeah, and I have an idea to "document them"...

It is called DEPORTATION.

A nice big FAT ASS STAMP in their passport that says "Denial of Reentry Into the United States Effective for a 10 Year Period From Issue of This Order".

Then their illegal alien asses will be "documented" allright.


19 posted on 12/09/2008 12:41:39 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Yeah, and I have an idea to "document them"...
It is called DEPORTATION.

Works for me.

I hope that a real Republican challenges McCain in the primary.

20 posted on 12/09/2008 2:15:08 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: rabscuttle385

We MUST stop this illegal Irish movement NOW!!!! Otherwise we’ll have millions of illegals doing the river dance on every street corner of America! The time is now, my friends!


21 posted on 12/09/2008 3:09:03 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: ansel12

Anse, I hate to tell you, but that young lady is Jean Butler, and she’s from Long Island (I think Mineola).

Why, she’s a legal as Obama!

Regards,


22 posted on 12/09/2008 3:26:37 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Wake up and smell the incense!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Got it!


23 posted on 12/09/2008 3:47:13 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I think McLame realizes he did as well in the election only because of the Cuda. That alone infuriates the RINO.
He thought he could kiss up to latins by supporting amnesty. The RINO turd thought he would get the Jewish vote by supporting Israel. The Rino turd thought he get the middle wishy washy vote by going centrist. The RINO turd thought he could ignore the conservative part of the Republican base and we would just go along so as to not elect the “magic negro”.
Ya know what there John, you sir are an ass with his head up that oraface and locked.
Go home and play shuffleboard ya fool John. And leave politics to the real men, like Saracuda.


24 posted on 12/09/2008 4:31:35 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: rabscuttle385
There's only about 20,000 ILLEGAL Irish in the U.S. compared to 30,000,000 ILLEGAL 'Hispanics'. Well I'm 1/2 Irish and I want them deported too.

Makes no difference where you're from, if you are illegal hit the road.

25 posted on 12/09/2008 5:00:50 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: rabscuttle385

Screw McCain. Legalization my butt. What’s good for the Mexicans is good for the Irish, send all felons home


26 posted on 12/09/2008 5:58:18 AM PST by volslover
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To: VermiciousKnid

This was a case of just wanting to post the picture of a gal that I really wanted to “amnesty”, she was incredibly sexy in that role.


27 posted on 12/09/2008 6:22:01 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Not to mention, poodle Tony Blair worked out a peace agreement in Ireland so all of these clowns have no excuse and can go home and even take advantage of Blair’s agreement and vote to merge the two Irelands if they got their butt home.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 6:35:25 AM PST by volslover
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To: rabscuttle385

“All right, we’ll give some land to the n-——s and the c——s, but we DON’T WANT THE IRISH.” Olson Johnson in Blazing Saddles


29 posted on 12/09/2008 9:00:05 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObamaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Mr Martin has already committed to seeking a visa agreement with the US authorities for the “undocumented” Irish in the US. He stated last month that “finding a solution for our undocumented citizens is a key priority.””

Solution? The solution is to take them HOME! If McCain had one ounce of brain left he’d have told Martin that.


30 posted on 12/09/2008 9:09:14 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: marron

“We accept a million legal immigrants each and every year.

I have yet to hear anyone explain why a million per year is not enough.

If a million is the right number, on what do we base it? And if a million is not enough, on what do we base that?

No one ever talks numbers. They just cast aspersions, that somehow we’re not an inclusive or tolerant or loving nation if we only accept a million legals per year, without explaining what would be the magic number that would grant us absolution.”
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Actually, it’s over 2 million.

http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/DayinLife_050629.pdf (click here to see orignial document)

Some of the DAILY work of USIS according to their own document:

* Conduct 135,000 national security background checks

* process 30,000 applications for immigrant benefits

* Issue 7,000 permanent resident cards (green cards -PER DAY)

* Welcome 2100 new citizens.

* Welcome 3500 new permanent residents.

Does this look like we are not allowing enough “Legal” entries?


31 posted on 12/09/2008 9:11:53 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“A million is too damn many. We need to assimilate the LEGAL ones we have now before we admit anyone else. That’s going to take a generation or longer.”

See post 31, it’s over 2 million per year allowed in legally.
That doesn’t count special ‘refugee’ entrants, like the thousands of Somali’s and El Salvadorans from the floods.


32 posted on 12/09/2008 9:14:46 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: VermiciousKnid
Why, she’s a legal as Obama!

ROTFLMAO Cracks me up!

33 posted on 12/09/2008 9:34:07 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I refuse allegiance to any foreign born alleged president.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


34 posted on 12/09/2008 10:02:40 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: rabscuttle385
What is it about the Law that McCain, Kennedy and Bush do NOT understand?????

I would think that at this point, McNutjob would be keeping a low profile.

Maybe he envisages a McCain/”Jeb” Brother of Jorge ticket in 2012!!!

35 posted on 12/09/2008 10:10:02 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Knowing how he feels about us McCain probably thinks he can slide amnesty past his ‘hillbilly’ constituents by having photo ops with white illegal aliens instead of brown ones.


36 posted on 12/09/2008 10:10:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: AuntB; rabscuttle385
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/a_day_in_the_life.pdf

Thanks. 7000 times 5 days a week times 52 weeks a year equals 1.8 million. Clearly my million a year remark isn't an exaggeration, its apparently out of date.

So by some kind of propagandistic judo, the country that is most open to immigration of any in the world is somehow “xenophobic”. We only allow 1.8 million legal immigrants, so we need comprehensive immigration reform so we can let in, how many? What is the right number? If a million isn't the right number, if 1.8 million isn't the right number, what is? On what would we base that number?

Something that gets lost in all of this is the purpose of immigration policy. Immigration policy should serve the interests of the citizens of a country. We have let ourselves be sold the idea that immigration is some kind of universal human right. It isn't. Immigration policy must serve the interests of the citizens.

It should not be used to manipulate wage rates, or voting patterns, or demographics. It should not be used as a safety valve for some other country's economic woes.

We have always recognized that immigration was a benefit to us, but recognizing its benefit doesn't rob us of the right to determine the numbers we believe are optimum, and it doesn't rob us of the right to decide which countries and peoples are compatible with our notions of governance and which are not.

Next time someone accuses us of being "anti-immigrant xenophobes", remember that number. About 2 million legal immigrants per year. It was a million. Now its two.

37 posted on 12/09/2008 10:12:12 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Some talk number, perhaps just not loud enough. The CIS (Center for Immigration Studies) and NumbersUSA publish data...but one of my favorites is the “gumball” video...on youtube:

IMMIGRATION GUMBALLS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ


38 posted on 12/09/2008 10:13:11 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: marron

“So by some kind of propagandistic judo, the country that is most open to immigration of any in the world is somehow “xenophobic”.”

One of the best implemented propaganda tricks around.

Remember, this USCIS report is a couple years old.

Thanks to Mike Cutler, former INS agent for sending it out.


39 posted on 12/09/2008 10:17:11 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB; Kimberly GG

“According to the Department of Homeland Security, 1,052,415 immigrants were given permanent residence in FY 2007.”

http://www.cis.org/CurrentNumbers

Thanks Kimberly


40 posted on 12/09/2008 10:22:53 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Just remember that figure doesn’t include asylum seekers, temporary workers, work or visitor or student visas (most of which overstay)


41 posted on 12/09/2008 10:31:03 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

Right. This is just legal green card permament residents.


42 posted on 12/09/2008 10:35:31 AM PST by marron
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To: marron
permament

It would be nice if I could spell.

43 posted on 12/09/2008 10:36:12 AM PST by marron
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To: rabscuttle385

What a fargin joke. There are millions of illegal mexicans in this country and they are worried about the Irish??????? How many are there....7 or 8. LMAO, up is down, left is right, bad is good and obummer is president....its bizzarro world.


44 posted on 12/09/2008 10:40:57 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: ansel12

What??? You mean you were simply using the very serious issue of illegal immigration just to post a picture of a pretty girl?

The Devil you say!

Jokingly yours,


45 posted on 12/09/2008 10:41:31 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Wake up and smell the incense!)
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To: rabscuttle385
I am torn on this issue!
46 posted on 12/09/2008 10:48:00 AM PST by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: AuntB; marron

Also....as relates to the million plus per year figure given in the gumballs video...does not include the number of illegals also entering and taxing our resources. And then there is this incredible statement:

“According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security, up to 10 MILLION PEOPLE entered the United States illegally and un-inspected LAST YEAR.”


47 posted on 12/09/2008 11:33:41 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Having lost the election, McCain will now get back at conservatives by selling them down the road? With the “loyalty” such as his, which we’ve seen these last twenty years, someone tell me again he didn’t collaborate with the N. Vietnamese.


48 posted on 12/09/2008 2:17:25 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: rabscuttle385

And here I thought Kennedy was obsessed with amnesties, mccain makes him look like a moderate. He will simply not give up and is determined to sell the country out.


49 posted on 12/09/2008 4:10:37 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: AuntB

UGH. It’s bad enough the illegals ones have flooded my city and neighborhood to the point of drowning (and they ain’t Irish, either).


50 posted on 12/09/2008 7:07:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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