Skip to comments.'Anonymous' Senator Who Called for GOP Centrists Revealed
Posted on 12/09/2008 2:00:07 AM PST by redk
Senate sources confirm for me that Mel Martinez was the famous Senator Anonymous from three weeks ago. Martinez, not wanting him name used, told the Politico I dont think we have learned much from the election in terms of what people want to see. This senator said the Republicans needed someone who could speak from the center and wanted it known that Sarah Palin is not the voice of [the Republican] party.
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Mel can join the Democrat Party then.
Up yours, you pandering moron. Palin is about the only thing right with the GOP right now. The sooner we can purge these milquetoast, country club Republicans, the better.
Hey, Mel, Sarah spoke louder for me than your good ole boy system has in years. Go pound cigar leaves or whatever.
Hey redk, fmel!
My God! What the hell administration would pick such a man to lead anything?...... Oh!
Not to mention any names, but the last person for the GOP who ran as a centrist got his a** handed to him by an avowed Marxist; lesson learned.
"Bill McCollum is an unelectable RINO LOSER - and Mel Martinez is the TRUE CONSERVATIVE in this race!!!!"
Ladies and Gentleman, your crow is served.
Yep. If they had stayed the hell out of it Katharine Harris would probably be in this Senate seat right now. But instead they force her to stay out of it until they had a better chance to throw her completely under the bus like say... in ‘06.
Just like Arnie. Oh we have to have the Terminator not considering the fact he was part of the family of the Kennedys.
Olympia Snowe is preferable to Baldacci. Specter was preferable to Hoeffel. Martinez was an exponentially better choice than Betty Castor.
Those are your choices in a statewide general election.
There's nothing wrong with running a conservative against Snowe, Collins, Coleman or Martinez in a primary, but the bottom line is that most of these folks are as conservative as they can be and still win a statewide office given the makeup of their electorate.
You are not going to get a Tom Coburn elected in Maine, Oregon or Minnesota. Our fellow citizens have forced the political pendulum leftward. It'll swing back after some amount of time passes. That's the way it has always worked.
What I detest are politicians who are so presumptuous to speak for the entire GOP membership? Mel, you don’t speak for me and you don’t speak for the majority of conservatives and for those who have decided that Sarah has passed their eyeball test and that she is truly a superstar.You know why Sarah is loved by millions, Mel. She doesn’t presume to speak for others; she only speaks for how she feels and you know what, Mel, she connects because that is the way we feel as well.
NATION'S FIRST AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION SENATOR
- Passed the bar exam
- Became liberal trial lawyer, donated to lots of politicans
- Elected Chairman of Orange County, Florida in uneventful easy race
- Ran actual campaign for Lt. Governor, got crushed in a landslide defeat
- Annointed Housing Secretary a few years later, accomplished absolutely nothing in office
- Received nonstop praise/worship from the RNC. Conned 51% of voters to elect him Senator because "it's time" for a Cuban Senator
NATION'S FIRST AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION PRESIDENT
- Passed the bar exam
- Became "Community Organizer"
- Elected Illinois State Senator in uneventful easy race
- Ran actual campaign for U.S. Congress, got crushed in a landslide defeat
- Annointed U.S. Senator a few years later, accomplished absolutely nothing in office
- Received nonstop praise/worship from the DNC. Conned 52% of voters to elect him President because "it's time" for a black President
Let's leave affirmative action out of politics next time!
I’m glad he’s not running for re-election. One less anti-Palin type that Sarah will have to save his you know what by making a last second appearance.
The thing that really fried me about this is the way that the so-called "moderate" Reps are taking a crap on the conservative Reps (such as Palin). There's a war on for the soul of the GOP, and I'm going to side with the conservative wing over the globalist, me-too Republicans.
Mel Martinez send him back to Cuba......
Just you watch! If Obama establishes trade with Cuba Mel Martinez will make millions as a broker. That’s why he quit. Mark my words
Martinez is just one of many liberals the Florida RNC has foisted upon us, Crist is another - good riddance Martinez and I will be equally joyous when Crist leave.
Ultimo goal being to make millions off his political contacts. He's a money grubber
He quit so he is ready to make millions off the Cuba trade if/when Obama establishes relations with Fidel's island paradise
Hold on, Billy. I’ll eat half the crow, but you gotta eat the rest. You know full well McCollum wasn’t going to win the Senate race, either. He won AG in a relatively low-profile race, but he got swept in on the ticket. He would’ve had to run alone in ‘04, and he did that in ‘00 and still lost. Martinez did appear to be better, and did score (amazingly) a 100 from the ACU, but he literally lost his mind on immigration. A Cuban Republican was worthy of getting a Senate seat here, just not THIS Cuban.
If Mel was intellectually honest he would admit that the top of the ticket should take the blame for the GOP defeat and with that his ‘moderate’ positions and his emphasis on bipartisanshhip; what also really irked many Republicans was McCain was more apt to criticize conservatives but loath to criticize Democrats, especially those who caused the sub-prime crisis.
The only reason the RNC pushed Martinez for the Senate was to push W’s immigration reform agenda - Martinez pretty much guaranteed Florida would follow along.
Martinez failed in the immigration issue ans so his job is done. He very well make tons of cash if we normalize relations with Cuba but thats not why he’s leaving - he’s leaving because he will have his a$$ handed to him if he runs again.
Rino = XXX years democrat rule.
Well I backed Johnnie Byrd in that Senate race, citing concerns about McCollum's electablity (check my FL Senate posts in 2004), so I can't eat crow on that one. I did react angrily to the freepers who called McCollum "RINO" and said McCollum is more conservative than the lying trial lawyer Martinez will ever be, so I'm serving crow on that one.
>> He won AG in a relatively low-profile race, but he got swept in on the ticket. He wouldve had to run alone in 04, and he did that in 00 and still lost. <
I think the jury is out on whether McCollum could have pulled off a "win" in 2004. First off, you keep acting like the Dems had a big name candidate when in reality they were stuck with the third tier candidacy of Betty Castro. Second, McCollum is no Oberweis who loses statewide over and over again. He seems to have learned from his bumbling 2002 campaign and ran a much better race in 2006, but he still does come across with a nerdy persona and is certainly not the FL GOP's star player. In short he's not my first choice by any means but if it was a two man race of him or a RINO I'd take my chances with McCollum.
In short I don't either Martinez or McCollum had any better chance of "winning" in 2004 (in hindsight, my guess is they both would have squeezed by with 51%), but given the events of 2002 it's certainly understandable that freepers were hestitant to back McCollum again. He hadn't established himself as A.G. yet. Where they erred was backing Martinez when there were six other highly competant conservatives in that primary.
What you seem to be ignoring,Field, is that not only did McCollum win by a higher percentage statewide than Martinez, but he won bigger in the HUGE Democrat turnout year of 2006, which as you no doubt reminded us was truly unprecedented because no sitting RAT was even defeated that year. Martinez, on the other hand, squeezed by in the GOP friendly 2004 election, mainly on Bush's coattails. Bush polled FAR ahead of Martinez in Florida that year -- the exact OPPOSITE of what Mel's fans predicted would happen (they said we needed to run Martinez because his pull in the Cuban community would "carry" Bush to victory)
So the "having a guy with a Cuban last name magically makes him more electable" crowd needs to eat crow as well, as the anglo name "Bush" was more endearing to FL voters. Guess they care more about a candidate's credentials than their ethnicty (though sadly, GOP primary voters cared more about the latter)
>> Martinez did appear to be better, and did score (amazingly) a 100 from the ACU, but he literally lost his mind on immigration. <<
I don't think Jeb Bush would be much better than Martinez on immigration, though I'd prefer Bush for the simple reason that he'd be a competant Senator who would actually get things done and not embarrass the hell out of the FL GOP (which Martinez began doing on day one when he "accidentially" handed the Terri Schaivo talking points memo to the Dems and gave the nation's first speech "en espanol" on the floor of the U.S. Senate in a shameful attempt to pander to TV cameras). In other words, the problem isn't so much that Martinez is a RINO (he's pretty good on issues besides immigration), it's that he is a empty suit loser who got his job because of affirmation action. And let this be a lesson to the GOP to back the most qualified person next time.
>> A Cuban Republican was worthy of getting a Senate seat here, just not THIS Cuban. <<
I agree. Which is why you are eating crow for backing this embarrassing doofus in the primary. It's not different than rooting for America will elect a black man president one day to prove race is not a barrier to presidency, but refusing to back THIS black candidate in 2008 because he will do more harm than good to race relations.
America would have eventually gotten an Cuban Senator and I would have welcomed it. But 2004 was not the time and Martinez was not the right candidate. And I resent being called "racist" by some of Martinez's more ardent RINO supporters because I wouldn't back THEIR Cuban.
I personally wish Daniel Webster had entered the race, though.
Based on Martinez's pre-2004 career (liberal illegal alien sympatherizer trial lawyer who donated oogles of cash to socialist Dems, conviently switched parties when FL became a Republican state, Bush brown nosing yes-man in the cabinent, etc.), my guess is he was lying through his teeth during his Senate campaign and didn't believe one word of what he said about immigration.
Kinda reminds me of that Romney fellow in that regard.
Hit the road, Mel! You have no idea how happy we all are that you are not going to seek re-election. Here’s an idea: Why wait until 2010? Resign NOW!
And this is particularly for Cedric.
FR was simularly divided in 2004 between those of us who saw thur Martinez's phony "secure the borders" act and those of us who thought it was he full of crap. I'd say the boards ran about 50-50. Turns out those of us that were on the "Martinez is full of crap" mindset were correct.
I guess I could eat crow for thinking Lindsey Graham would be anti-illegal alien though, but who didn't think that?
But he has an (R) behind his name and that’s all that matters. LOL
Part of the cancer afflicting the republican party.
OUCH,but so true.Did you hear that saxby?
Well said but don’t expect to many attaboys from FR.
Mel Martinez my Senator from Florida is supported by president Bush.
Shows ya a thing or two about Bush.
Martinez is a piece of excrement RINO. This assclown amnesty supporting fool has no clue and will go down as the worst senator from the state of Florida in my 40 years of living here.
Hey Mel, go back to Cuba ya pos.
This is sort of like the Arnoldbots crying foul in California -- they can't say they weren't warned.
You don't get that done with an "I'm right, you're a RINO" approach.
You have to build a coalition of varying interests, agendas and priorities that are better satisfied by voting for the GOP candidate over the Democrat candidate.
Politics is real world stuff.
No, i voted for Martinez simply to keep Betty Castor from geting the job.
You may recall that Castor was the former president of the University of South Florida who refused to fire Sami Al Arien the head fund raiser of many islamist terrorist groups.
She would have been even worse than Mel in my opinion.
Still believe that to be true.
Course you can make any accusation you care to. pal.
Sarah Palin is not the voice of [the Republican] party.
She might not be the voice of the Republican Party, but she´s fast becoming the voice of the people who used to support the Republican Party at any rate.
He is quitting, I guess Sarah won that round.
I hope whoever the next Chair of the GOP is will tell people like Martinez to take a long walk off of a short pier.
I doubt either of them view this decision through that lens.
Being a Senator is boring work when facing a career long minority status.
He probably doesn’t want to endure the hellish fundraising gauntlet.
I agree but a certain element at FR can’t seem to grasp this. I go hole hog for the conservative in the primaries and then vote the lesser of two evils in the general. I do think it is counter productive to allow so called independents to vote in the Republican primaries.
Social conservatives cannot win statewide office in roughly 38 of 50 states right now.
So, what's the plan?
Thanks for the alert! So now we know who!
We're not a club they wish to join.