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Sen. Craig loses appeal in airport sex sting case
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/9/8 | STEVE KARNOWSKI, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 12/09/2008 8:16:53 AM PST by SmithL

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Idaho Sen. Larry Craig has lost his latest attempt to withdraw his guilty plea in a Minneapolis airport men's room sex sting.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: comeflywithme; cultureofcorruption; larrycraig; widestance
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1 posted on 12/09/2008 8:16:54 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Larry, go away.
2 posted on 12/09/2008 8:18:44 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: SmithL

Larry Craig? Who is he?


3 posted on 12/09/2008 8:19:30 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: SmithL

I would sure hate to be a Republican politician with restless leg syndrome in a public bathroom these days.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 8:20:25 AM PST by pikachu (Don't be dumb -- we have Democrats for that)
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To: SmithL
Sen. Craig loses appeal in airport sex sting case

Why? did they seal up the glory holes?..........

5 posted on 12/09/2008 8:20:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: SmithL

I’m not sticking up for this guy because I don’t care one way or another but... it’s illegal to indicate to someone that you want to have sex with them??


6 posted on 12/09/2008 8:20:39 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: SmithL

Great News! Now get the heck out of American lives. You are a complete buffon and embarrasment. This is good timing coming out the same day as Illinois Gov troubles. I am glad to rid Craig out of politics. Problem is now he will be free to molest and toe tap men trying to simply use the restroom anytime he wants to.


7 posted on 12/09/2008 8:21:06 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SmithL

Amazing how being involved in an airport bathroom sex sting will cause you to lose appeal.


8 posted on 12/09/2008 8:21:16 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: SmithL

Not that he had that much appeal to begin with (could be why he had a wide stance).


9 posted on 12/09/2008 8:21:46 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: MeanWestTexan

I appreciate your only posting the pic from the belly button up. Good posting etiquette and I can continue to use the same keyboard.


10 posted on 12/09/2008 8:21:50 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Apparently in a public bathroom, yes.


11 posted on 12/09/2008 8:22:56 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: SmithL

Odd on the MSM (esp CNNCBSABCNBCMSNBC) running this story being immidiately after the Blagojevich for “balance”?


12 posted on 12/09/2008 8:24:15 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: tennmountainman

“Toilet Boy”


13 posted on 12/09/2008 8:24:24 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SmithL
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig has lost his latest attempt to withdraw his guilty plea in a Minneapolis airport men's room sex sting.

What argument did he have to withdraw the plea other than "I only plead to keep it quiet. Now that it's public I don't want the plea anymore."?

14 posted on 12/09/2008 8:24:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Still Thinking

But seriously, why? What about freedom of speech?


15 posted on 12/09/2008 8:26:16 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: SmithL

Take a wider stance larry, a wider stance!


16 posted on 12/09/2008 8:26:26 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SmithL

All that toe tappin’ in the boyz room and ole gay Larry still can’t score.


17 posted on 12/09/2008 8:26:27 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: A_perfect_lady
You won't get much substantive discussion on your point...because nobody wants to be seen as defending bathroom buggery.

On the other hand..."Als die Nazis die Perverslinge holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Perversling...."
18 posted on 12/09/2008 8:26:54 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: SmithL

Senator Craig is not the only prominent Queen, there are still closeted prominent married Queens in the Republican Party, some married, some not. Remember there were also ones that left so suddenly, why? Connect the dots. The biggest Sappho Sister: Condoleeza Rice./Just Asking - seoul62......


19 posted on 12/09/2008 8:27:02 AM PST by seoul62
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To: A_perfect_lady
"it’s illegal to indicate to someone that you want to have sex with them??"

I have the same question, it seems like it would happen frequently.
20 posted on 12/09/2008 8:27:21 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: rrrod

Toe tappin’ alert.


21 posted on 12/09/2008 8:28:09 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: Red Badger

Well I, for one, NEVER found him very appealing


22 posted on 12/09/2008 8:29:02 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: beezdotcom

I’m no fan of bathroom buggery either. Ick. I just don’t know why it’s illegal to ask someone for sex UNLESS he was offering to pay for it. Was he? I’m not too up on this case; it’s not one that has really tweaked my attention until just now when I realized he wasn’t just exposed as a scandal, he was charged with a crime.


23 posted on 12/09/2008 8:30:11 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: SmithL

24 posted on 12/09/2008 8:33:40 AM PST by al baby (Hi mom IF DA BIRTH PLACE IS A LIE, BEING DA PRESIDENT AIN'T GONNA FLY!)
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To: seoul62

Heck, I’d name at least one male RINO as a wide-stancer, but I only suspect (and fear I am motivated because he is a pathetic RINO), so I won’t say.


25 posted on 12/09/2008 8:34:52 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: SmithL

I was probably in 7th or 8th grade when I first realized I was attracted to undercover cops....


26 posted on 12/09/2008 8:35:39 AM PST by billorites
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To: seoul62
Well we we see soon


27 posted on 12/09/2008 8:36:15 AM PST by al baby (Hi mom IF DA BIRTH PLACE IS A LIE, BEING DA PRESIDENT AIN'T GONNA FLY!)
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To: SmithL

The AP mentions his party in the second paragraph.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 8:36:17 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

My guess is that it’s illegal to do so in a public place. Probably a blind eye is turned to such an act in a bar but an airport restroom is not the same environment.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 8:39:14 AM PST by Burkean
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To: A_perfect_lady; SmithL
I don't know much about this case other than what I read on FR, but that won't stop me from giving an opinion.

When I first heard of this case I felt it was strange. Airport bathrooms are NOT an area that I could ever suspect as a “meeting site”. He does not seem to be the type of guy who engages in such activities (but truly, who knows), and in his 60’s, probably does not know much about the “gay signals” that need to be sent to join the club.

My first thought? A setup, not a sting.

Airport bathrooms are seldom clean and I have resorted to a wise stance myself to keep my shoes clean. Tapping? It could have been interpreted by the officer as anything, just looking for a way to arrest the easiest target.

It is just too strange the way this happened and was reported.

*****

Back in the 80’s a couple of local sheriffs depts in Texas started busting people for using highway rest stops as meeting places. It was later determined that NONE of the people arrested (at least by one sheriff in N Texas) was guilty. The arrested citizens pled guilty to a lessor offense and paid a fine rather than make the arrest public knowledge.

Whole scheme unraveled when an arrested citizen was beaten and raped while in the county jail. Sheriff knew they were bogus arrests but he sure had a way to strong arm cash out of travelers and businessmen.

*****

There is a local radio show that used to have a bit on Gay Rodeo where staff will get wired and try to get picked up in a local park. These radio jockeys don't go to the airport, or to rest stops. They go to a park in the middle of the metrosexual area in Dallas. It improves their chances of shock radio.

*****

All told, Sen Craig and Republicans get tarred by a broad brush by the media, while the MSM would never out one of their own.

30 posted on 12/09/2008 8:40:10 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
it’s illegal to indicate to someone that you want to have sex with them??

It is if you're a Republican.

However, it seems to be just fine if you're a Democrat, and even better if your "boyfriend" runs a gay brothel or is a top executive of a GSE that is behind the destruction of the US economy and you Chair the committee that has oversight of that GSE.

I agree that Craig needs to just away, but here's what it boils down to:

Larry Craig went into an airport bathroom,  tapped the guy next to him with his foot, then reached over with his left hand and touched the leg of the guy in the next stall. The guy in the next stall turned out to be a cop who accused him of soliciting. Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and paid a fine.

Here is what Barney Frank did. He answered a personal ad from a male prostitute, Stephen Gobie,  Frank began to pay Gobie for sex and even had Gobie to move in with him. When the relationship ended, Gobie revealed to the press that he had been running a full-service prostitution ring out of Frank's apartment. 

 

31 posted on 12/09/2008 8:45:36 AM PST by txroadkill (www.honorandremember.org)
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To: A_perfect_lady

While I try not to give it a whole lot of thought, it is my understanding that the illegal part is the public nature of the sex the bathroom boys engage in. I gather that it is illegal to have sex in the men’s room, and, by extension, to solicit for public sex is illegal.

Otherwise, they’d just be hitting on each other in the airport bar.


32 posted on 12/09/2008 8:50:29 AM PST by dmz
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To: MeanWestTexan

Ahh, a guessing game! Animal, vegetable, mineral... I’ll guess animal, part veg and from South Carolina.


33 posted on 12/09/2008 8:58:15 AM PST by kenth (It's now spend and tax. How's that for change?)
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To: dmz
While I try not to give it a whole lot of thought, it is my understanding that the illegal part is the public nature of the sex the bathroom boys engage in. I gather that it is illegal to have sex in the men’s room, and, by extension, to solicit for public sex is illegal.

Otherwise, they’d just be hitting on each other in the airport bar.

Ah. Okay, I guess that makes sense.

34 posted on 12/09/2008 8:58:19 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
...Republican's...

Second sentence. Compare to the stories out today regarding Illinois Gov. Blagojevich .

35 posted on 12/09/2008 8:59:26 AM PST by TankerKC (Wal-Mart haters: It IS NOT OK to trample someone.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Good.

He should be punished severely, just like Barney Frank was for having a homosexual prostitution ring running out of his basement by one of his occasional same sex partners.

Which of course he knew nothing about.

Just like he knows nothing about all the democrats (himself included) who wouldn't do anything FOR YEARS about the practice of loaning money to people that couldn't qualify to pay it back.

Let's use the same standard and give Craig pockets full of money for corruption.

36 posted on 12/09/2008 9:06:43 AM PST by Syncro (tagline)
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To: MeanWestTexan

When is this guy leaving office? Does his term end this year?


37 posted on 12/09/2008 9:13:29 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: SmithL

He’s leaving the Senate to spend more time with his family, namely his wife, George Michael.


38 posted on 12/09/2008 10:06:35 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: al baby

Day without a Gay...

I like this idea -let’s expand it for the additional 364 days of the year...


39 posted on 12/09/2008 10:15:31 AM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: beezdotcom; A_perfect_lady
"You won't get much substantive discussion on your point...because nobody wants to be seen as defending bathroom buggery."

OR a perverted predatory lying POS.

40 posted on 12/09/2008 10:20:03 AM PST by F16Fighter (Kenyan-born/foreign-citizen "Presidents" are now sanctioned by nine black-robed chimpanzees?)
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To: TankerKC
"Second sentence. Compare to the stories out today regarding Illinois Gov. Blagojevich ."

You mean the reference to Party affiliation HERE:

A three-judge panel of the Minnesota Court of Appeals on Tuesday rejected the Republican's bid to toss out his disorderly conduct conviction...

Versus NO mention by the MSM of party affiliation regarding Illinois Gov. Blagojevich??

Nope, hadn't noticed ;-)

41 posted on 12/09/2008 10:25:04 AM PST by F16Fighter (Kenyan-born/foreign-citizen "Presidents" are now sanctioned by nine black-robed chimpanzees?)
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To: SmithL

They should lock Craig and Stevens up together.


42 posted on 12/09/2008 10:25:59 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: seoul62
Senator Craig is not the only prominent Queen, there are still closeted prominent married Queens in the Republican Party, some married, some not.

Craig got arrested in a bathroom sex sting. No other Republican's in recent time have been nailed (no pun intended) in a bathroom sex sting.

I do not care who is a "Queen" and who is not, I only care that they OBEY the law and do not proposition other men (yuck) in the restroom.

43 posted on 12/09/2008 10:39:57 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Disgusted, Disappointed, Demoralized - Its causing me to post long ranting replies Sorry!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Actually, his real crime is in not knowing that as a sitting senator (ahem), he could not be arrested.

20 years in congress, and he never read the constitution.

Jail him.


44 posted on 12/09/2008 10:48:18 AM PST by patton (Vista malware delende est - Norton Antivirus)
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To: patton

As we speak about Craig, tapping his foot in a men’s room trying to get his kicks, The United States Constitution is being raped and America is being overthrown from within.

Turn off the stupid box.


45 posted on 12/09/2008 10:52:31 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: gathersnomoss

Turn off the stupid box?

Noooo....I find it rather entertaining, today. I love it when corrupt pols do the perp walk.


46 posted on 12/09/2008 10:55:14 AM PST by patton (Vista malware delende est - Norton Antivirus)
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To: patton

enjoy.


47 posted on 12/09/2008 11:08:10 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I’m no fan of bathroom buggery either. Ick. I just don’t know why it’s illegal to ask someone for sex UNLESS he was offering to pay for it.

Your instincts are correct. Unpopular here, but correct.
48 posted on 12/09/2008 1:53:26 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: F16Fighter
OR a perverted predatory lying POS.

Undoubtedly. But I'm usually all about punishing those who have actually committed the crime, not just those who act like they were thinking about it.
49 posted on 12/09/2008 1:56:40 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: A_perfect_lady
But seriously, why? What about freedom of speech?

Well, bear in mind I'm a fairly libertarian guy trying to think like a bureaucrat here, but I think the idea is they're trying to discourage public indecency (guys giving each other hummers in the restroom -- public park restrooms are infamous for this as well), and that therefore there is a sufficiently compelling public interest to justify limiting free speech. Or something like that.

50 posted on 12/09/2008 3:57:43 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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