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Why the media blackout on Obama's citizenship
Renew America ^ | December 9, 2008 | JR Dieckmann

Posted on 12/09/2008 9:02:22 AM PST by ckilmer

December 9, 2008

Why the media blackout on Obama's citizenship
By JR Dieckmann

It seems that everyone today is asking why there is no media coverage of the many legal challenges to Obama's eligibility to become president, based upon many valid questions regarding his citizenship. Instead of simply answering these challenges with documented proof of his citizenship, he has chosen instead to conceal from public view, every single legal document he has, and spend a half million dollars in lawyer fees to fight the cases in hopes of getting them dismissed or delayed indefinitely.

The documents he has had sealed that would answer this looming question are his original birth certificate, his passport, his college records from both Columbia and Harvard universities, his health records, and his original Selective Service registration — if it exists at all. Many inconsistencies in the Selective Service registration form, which has appeared on the web indicate it has been forged or altered. Obama seems determined to hide his true identity. Some investigators are even questioning the identity of his paternal father, based on his stronger resemblance to Frank Marshal Davis and Malcolm X than to Barack Obama Sr.

The electronic copy of the document posted on Obama's website, authenticated by the Hawaii Department of Health and FactCheck.org, and being called his birth certificate is not a birth certificate. The Hawaiian "Certification Of Live Birth" is a document available to any child in Hawaii over one year of age, regardless of where the child was born. The Hawaiian "Certificate Of Live Birth" is a Hawaiian birth certificate showing that the child was born in Hawaii, and Obama doesn't seem to have one. At least, not one he is willing to show us.

How could 44 million Americans vote for a man they really know nothing about other than what he has told them? Has any president ever before in history been elected without revealing the most basic of documents like a birth certificate and academic records? Remember how Bush's and Kerry's college and military records were highly scrutinized during their campaigns? For all we really know about Obama, he could be a space alien sent to Earth as a small child. Yet 44 million people voted for him based on nothing more than his campaign rhetoric of undefined "hope" and "change," and anti-American redistribution of wealth.

Two of the cases challenging Obama's citizenship have just been dismissed by the Supreme Court, but several more have already been filed for review. Citizens across the country are signing petitions, blogging, and posting on the Internet. They are demanding that this issue be resolved before Obama is elected by the Electoral College on Dec. 15, or at the latest by Jan. 20 when he is scheduled to be sworn into office. Yet in spite of this nationwide outrage, the media refuses even to mention what is likely to be a major news story of the century — people want to know why.

I suspect that the media aren't covering the story because they are convinced that Obama will become our next president, and they've decided to be safe, rather than sorry. We have all seen what happens to people who publicly challenge Obama or disagree with him — reporters tossed off his campaign plane; investigation of Joe the Plumber, challengers smeared, etc. Obama and his surrogates attempt either to shut them up or shut them down. Any mention of his citizenship status is dismissed as a conspiracy theory or a hoax. Yet we have only his word that he is an American citizen, and that seems to be all the evidence that his supporters have as well on which to base their cynical and arrogant assumptions about his citizenship and our grounds to question it.

Any media outlet that covers this issue will likely be denied a seat in the White House press room as well as any other access to White House staff and the presumed president. They would also be concerned about their broadcast license being threatened by an Obama administration. I suspect what has happened is that media outlet executives have given strict orders to their news directors and editors that this story is not to be mentioned for fear of repercussions by the proposed future administration should it actually become a reality.

MSNBC and perhaps NBC doesn't seem to share this fear, and for good reason. They have been deep into the tank for Obama all along and have been one of his best propaganda outlets. MSNBC is the only news channel that has actually giving any coverage to the controversy but always paints it as nothing more than a right wing conspiracy theory and laughs it off. We'll see who has the last laugh.

Fox News, which we would expect to take some interest in this story has been consistently and conspicuously silent on the issue. My suspicions mentioned above were reinforced yesterday during the Fox News Watch program when Eric Shawn was talking with Liz Trotta about some conservative writers on the Internet who "praised" Obama for some of his "centrist" appointments. As Trotta discussed the various articles, Shawn interjected that blogs were widely talking about Obama's citizenship. Trotta quickly and disdainfully dismissed it and changed the subject which was not referred to again. It was almost as though she was reminding him that the subject is not to be brought up.

Even talk radio commentators are afraid to talk about it. Rush Limbaugh stated that he is not sure if it "passes the smell test," and Sean Hannity has not even mentioned it as far as I know except when a caller brought it up. Hannity remarked that he didn't know enough about it and moved to another topic.

Hannity may be restricted by his bosses, but Rush is the CEO of his own broadcasting network and has nothing to fear except the possible loss of some of his franchise radio stations across the country which carry his show. Rush is known for facing down any amount of political pressure or politician so he must have his own reasons for not giving it credibility on the air. Privately, I suspect Limbaugh takes this matter very seriously but he has two relatives on the bench; Stephen N. Limbaugh, Sr., Stephen N. Limbaugh, Jr. and other friends who may have advised him to avoid the subject until the issue is officially in the hands of the courts.

Obama, or as Dr. Jack Wheeler calls him "Zero," has campaigned on transparency and uniting the country — a statement many of us laughed at from the start. It's time "Zero" showed some transparency of his own by disclosing his original birth certificate; his college records; his health records; his unaltered draft registration; his campaign contributors; his true connections, citizenship, and allegiance to Indonesia and Kenya; and show the American people that he is willing to come clean and be honest with us. In his brief political career so far, "Zero" has hidden more secrets from the American people than George W. Bush has in his entire 8 years as President of the United States.

On his To The Point News website, Jack Wheeler has divulged that he knows "the true story" about Obama's birth situation, and it is "wild," but he — and the contact person who also runs a major news site and told him the facts — are apparently not yet prepared to reveal this shocker to the public. Wheeler said he will let the source of the information reveal it in his own time. "...The details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild."

Any hopes of uniting the country will depend heavily on Mr. Obama's willingness to disclose the personal documents he has been hiding under lock and key, thereby erasing all doubts about his eligibility to become our president. Until he does that, he will be considered an illegitimate usurper of the presidency by at least half of the American people and will be given none of the respect and allegiance afforded to other presidents.

He will be viewed as a traitor to this country from the day he takes the oath of office and America will be considered a country without a president. Furthermore if the military has any patriotism for America, they will consider themselves to be armed forces without a Commander in Chief. There will be no uniting of the country, only further division and animosity toward the president and the government.

The consequences of not resolving this problem before inauguration day will be catastrophic for the country. Should "Zero" be found not to be a natural born citizen of this country after he takes office, it will be the duty of Congress to impeach him and the duty of the Justice Department to take him into custody on charges of treason and fraud. Those charges should also extend to Howard Dean and other leaders of the Democrat party as well as the state of Illinois Democrat party officials and the person who placed the usurper's name into the nomination for president. All of these entities should have vetted the candidate for eligibility before his name was ever placed on the ballot.

But there's more. It would mean that every directive, every Executive Order, every piece of legislation, every "signing statement" and 100% of his Cabinet plus thousands of other appointments would be unlawful. Any judicial appointees would have to resign. All of the above personnel would have to be immediately replaced as would his V.P. who would — under these tumultuous circumstances — NOT assume the office of the presidency.

Should this become the case, the Constitution does provide a procedure for resolving it by placing the Vice President in the position of acting president. The 25th Amendment states in Section 1:

But there is problem with this. It assumes that the vice president was legally appointed by a legitimate presidential candidate or president. If the president is illegitimate, then any selections to his cabinet would be invalid including the vice president.

The 20th Amendment provides for the case of a president elect and vice president elect being found unqualified for the office, but this applies to the candidate prior to being sworn in. Section 3 of Amendment XX states in part:

These may be helpful in determining a procedure for replacing the president and vice president, but neither one was intended to apply to the situation we face today, or may face after "Zero" is sworn in. But neither amendment applies to both president and vice president being removed from office. From other language in these Amendments, it would appear that it would be up to the House of Representatives to select an acting president until such time as a qualified president can be elected. God only knows whom this House would select.

Clearly such a turn of events would be cataclysmic for America, because it would lay us wide open for terror attacks everywhere in the nation, due to a temporarily leaderless country in utter turmoil — all due to the hubris and thirst for power by one man and his disgraceful minions.

We must also consider the very real possibility that "Zero's" citizenship issue will be ignored and the courts will permit him to serve as president in spite of his lack of proper natural born citizenship status. A precedent will have been set for any foreigner from anywhere in the world to assume control of the United States of America. Imagine President Soros — President Mugabe — President Assad — or perhaps even President Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

This issue must be pursued to it's legal conclusion. The public must not fall prey to the liberal media propaganda that attempts to paint conservatives, who believe and trust in the Constitution as the law of the land, as nutcase right wing conspirators. If Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States of America, then show us the proof. Release the critical documents. We will accept nothing less.

In 1959, Nikita Khrushchev said "We will bury you." He also said "We will take you over from within." Of course, he was talking about communism. Obama could very well be the final nail in America's coffin as a student of Marxism and a usurper of the presidency of the Untied States of America. His citizenship status must be verified and this issue resolved without delay or America may be facing a revolt like never before seen in the history of the country.

© JR Dieckmann



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; dareyoutosubmit; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; shadowparty; soros; stbc
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1 posted on 12/09/2008 9:02:23 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



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from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
2 posted on 12/09/2008 9:03:21 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

You can’t say “blackout” anymore. It’s racist.


3 posted on 12/09/2008 9:03:49 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("This is a good day to kill some savages." Suetonius 60AD)
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To: ckilmer

Looking forward to seeing the entire video of the Press Conference of yesterday when it is posted on FreedomMarch this evening! It will be a video worthy of sending far and wide. It will show the MSM in action, uncut, and unedited. The video will make you smile!


4 posted on 12/09/2008 9:04:40 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: ckilmer

Great article. BTTT


5 posted on 12/09/2008 9:05:05 AM PST by EggsAckley
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6 posted on 12/09/2008 9:05:35 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: ckilmer

Why the SCOTUS blackout on examining a piece of paper before handing over the most powerful office in the world?


7 posted on 12/09/2008 9:06:07 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: ckilmer

The ends justify the means in this case, and no liberal will stand in the way of hope and change.


8 posted on 12/09/2008 9:06:18 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: ckilmer

This issue must be pursued to it’s legal conclusion. The public must not fall prey to the liberal media propaganda that attempts to paint conservatives, who believe and trust in the Constitution as the law of the land, as nutcase right wing conspirators. If Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States of America, then show us the proof. Release the critical documents. We will accept nothing less.
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It will not happen since he cannot provide proof, because there is none. Simple really. Why else would he have spent so many lawyer hours and dollars suppressing this effort??? Even his relatives basically said he is not a natural born citizen. The media is nothing more than the red-as-hell leftwing propoganda machine for the socialists. They will support an illegal DemoRAT president until their doors close.


9 posted on 12/09/2008 9:06:49 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: ckilmer

Why? Because they know the truth, and it doesn't fit their agenda of anointing The Chosen One!


10 posted on 12/09/2008 9:06:53 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: CholeraJoe

OK... we will now use “whiteout.” How’s that?


11 posted on 12/09/2008 9:08:42 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: Yo-Yo
Because our Republic is about to come to a complete and total end, that's why.

The Supreme Court's cowardice and refusal to follow FEDERAL LAW is unlike anything I have ever seen in my life.

It makes me physically ill to know that Obama's people put out a phony birth certificate.

Obama's intentional deception makes me ill because no one is calling foul on him, and in so refusing to follow the law, our National identity and sense of Justice goes out the window.

12 posted on 12/09/2008 9:10:26 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: ckilmer
On his To The Point News website, Jack Wheeler has divulged that he knows "the true story" about Obama's birth situation, and it is "wild," but he — and the contact person who also runs a major news site and told him the facts — are apparently not yet prepared to reveal this shocker to the public. Wheeler said he will let the source of the information reveal it in his own time. "...The details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild."

This is BS. If he has the goods it needs to be released. If not then he needs to STFU!

13 posted on 12/09/2008 9:10:48 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: ckilmer

Why won’t his lawyers submit the “factcheck.org” documents in court?


14 posted on 12/09/2008 9:11:07 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: ckilmer

Good points, but one thing I will add: since when do we believe the words of the Kenyan ambassador? Even if there’s legitmacy to what he’s saying, and I’m defintiely not sold on Obama’s Hawaiian certificate, that’s the last guy’s word I’m going to take to heart. These Africans have been talking to any newspaper they can in the last few months, claiming any connection with Obama. One government official in Kenya keeps boasting that he’s a distant cousin of Obamas.... Their countries are so awful, they’ll do anything to claim some connection to America


15 posted on 12/09/2008 9:11:19 AM PST by mrclean5
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To: ckilmer
As citizen and savior of the world, Obama’s place of birth is immaterial. /s
16 posted on 12/09/2008 9:11:50 AM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: ckilmer
Instead of simply answering these challenges with documented proof of his citizenship, he has chosen instead to conceal from public view, every single legal document he has, and spend a half million dollars in lawyer fees to fight the cases in hopes of getting them dismissed or delayed indefinitely.

And now from Mr Transparency himself.

"Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us."

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama on the Confirmation of Judge John Roberts
17 posted on 12/09/2008 9:13:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: ckilmer
I have concerns about the birth certificate. For the record: i think something is there, and I hope the truth comes out.

However, bits like this:

On his To The Point News website, Jack Wheeler has divulged that he knows "the true story" about Obama's birth situation, and it is "wild," but he — and the contact person who also runs a major news site and told him the facts — are apparently not yet prepared to reveal this shocker to the public. Wheeler said he will let the source of the information reveal it in his own time. "...The details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild."

Are just plain stupid. To paraphrase: "I know the truth. The people need to know the truth. The truth will drive everyone wild. It's the most important story ever. But I'm not gonna say anything else."

Give me an effing break.

18 posted on 12/09/2008 9:14:00 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: TCH

I would agree, but I think that term is already taken....I just used some the other day on my essay paper!


19 posted on 12/09/2008 9:14:40 AM PST by claymax (Vote for a HERO...........not for the ZERO!)
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To: ckilmer

Although I largely agree with the author’s writing, I did send an email and nit-pick one point.

The 20th was the first amendment to address a President elect’s failure to qualify and covers exactly what we are facing today. Further, 3 USC 15 sets out the precise method by which the Congress at its Jan 8 joint session, may object to and challenge the qualifications of the PE.

Our nation is not screwed (yet), we have a carefully thought out remedy.
What we need is for as many members of Congress as possible to show us they have some...
courage.

See my About page if you have time for a letter.


20 posted on 12/09/2008 9:18:34 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Boardwalk
The ends justify the means in this case, and no liberal will stand in the way of hope and change.

Possibly control. The Democrat and Republicans think they can manipulate and control Obama with this information. By not putting it to rest, it really does him a diservice, but he will make a great "Uncle Tom" aka, house ...

21 posted on 12/09/2008 9:19:53 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: claymax

My guess is that he is a natural born citizen but his father is not who he claims it to be. It was sensationalized by the media that his father was from Kenya, thus making him a “real african-american”. If his real father were to be made public it would cause more meyhem than him not being eligible for the POTUS.


22 posted on 12/09/2008 9:23:17 AM PST by Cyclone59 (still speechless over the election)
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To: Yo-Yo
Problem Solved! DSC_0067sm
23 posted on 12/09/2008 9:27:07 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Yo-Yo
Problem Solved! DSC_0067sm
24 posted on 12/09/2008 9:27:12 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: ckilmer

“Should this become the case, the Constitution does provide a procedure for resolving it by placing the Vice President in the position of acting president. The 25th Amendment states in Section 1:

“In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.”

But there is problem with this. It assumes that the vice president was legally appointed by a legitimate presidential candidate or president. If the president is illegitimate, then any selections to his cabinet would be invalid including the vice president.”

I know Biden is the gaffe King, but does anyone wonder if he found out too late that this was a possibility and was trying to dissuade the election because this was his one shot and he might not even get in because of the ineligibility?

I swear at the end it seemed that he was trying to keep Obama from being elected.


25 posted on 12/09/2008 9:27:24 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: ckilmer; LucyT

Good article ping


26 posted on 12/09/2008 9:27:54 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine

If Biden becomes POTUS, you had better “gird your loins.”


27 posted on 12/09/2008 9:30:01 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Cyclone59

If Obama, Sr. claimed Obama, Jr as his son, then the issue of the Kenyan citizenship would still be a problem, I’d think, regardless of who the father really is. Legally, Obama would still have inherited his citizenship from his legal father who, we are told, is Obama, Sr.

Now if his natural father was someone else, as long as it isn’t listed on the birth certificate, then it would seem that Obama couldn’t get citizenship from an unidentified individual. And if he was born in Kenya, sired by an unnamed man, and if his mother was not old enough to pass on her citizenship.....then what happens?


28 posted on 12/09/2008 9:38:53 AM PST by Marty
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To: ckilmer

This blackout is a double edged sword because the MSM is up against a new trend of news and information that the public is using every day now on their PDA, Blackberry Zune etc. and they care not to listen to the talking heads, they care not to be captive audiences to commercial advertising, most people have options to record what they want to hear or see now, from music to movies America now has a choice.

And they chose to ignore the MSM, they are choosing to find internet news instead, America will not accept the censorship of the airwaves.

America will not support the MSM and WILL let them shrivel on the vine because of the lack of viewers being captive to advertising.

The steam engined powered media has just found out the Indians are cutting up the tracks and toppling the water tanks.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 9:39:15 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Americans should lead America, its the right way.)
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To: ckilmer

RE “I suspect that the media aren’t covering the story because they are convinced that Obama will become our next president, and they’ve decided to be safe, rather than sorry. “

Convinced??? LOL I only found one FRer that was willing to say that he thought otherwise. It’s not like it was a close election. By bringing it up now while he is popular, he will be able to claim it is old news when he becomes unpopular, if that happens (hopefully)


30 posted on 12/09/2008 9:39:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama says: "I only need to buy 40% of voters with handouts and trick another 11%")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good catch. I wish we could get a break from such nonsense. We just have to keep in mind that these guys make money by selling newspapers or advertising, or whatever it is they sell. So they hype things up, they try to get people to buy their product, and if they do land some kind of scoop they try to hoard it for themselves so that they alone can profit from it. That’s what business they’re in.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 9:42:20 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Yo-Yo

Because the case brought before them was stupid. The case hinged on the belief that Obama is not a natural born citizen because his father was a British subject at the time.


32 posted on 12/09/2008 9:47:19 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: ckilmer

The media may have slipped. By reporting that the SC refused to issue a stay in the Donofrio case, they alerted a lot of people that there MIGHT be a problem. The word is spreading and the only people fighting against Obama releasing his BC and other documents are the moonbats who worship Obama.


33 posted on 12/09/2008 9:53:16 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: TruthWillWin

I heard he has a real Bigfoot frozen in his basement, too.


34 posted on 12/09/2008 9:55:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

LOL! Good one! And they can submit the Internet URL of the Kos COLB, too. That ought to be fun to watch.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 10:00:26 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: ckilmer

Ping


36 posted on 12/09/2008 10:09:33 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Give me an effing break.

Absolutely.

If Wheeler has something spill it or be quiet.


37 posted on 12/09/2008 10:13:54 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: LucyT

Great read....ping


38 posted on 12/09/2008 10:20:17 AM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: ckilmer

You used too many words.

The Sheep will never read it.


39 posted on 12/09/2008 10:26:43 AM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The media may have slipped. By reporting that the SC refused to issue a stay in the Donofrio case, they alerted a lot of people that there MIGHT be a problem. The word is spreading and the only people fighting against Obama releasing his BC and other documents are the moonbats who worship Obama.

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I think this is spot on. It also shows that the case is being followed closely but it being deliberately unreported. Why? For a variety of reasons. Some reasonable. Some not so reasonable.

If SCOTUS takes up the issue then this story will be third page news.

And then its hard to know what will happen.


40 posted on 12/09/2008 10:28:27 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: frog in a pot

You said — “The 20th was the first amendment to address a President elect’s failure to qualify and covers exactly what we are facing today. Further, 3 USC 15 sets out the precise method by which the Congress at its Jan 8 joint session, may object to and challenge the qualifications of the PE.”

How is anyone challenging this in that forum going to get it past a majority Democrat Party who is going to insist on Obama... That ain’t gonna work... Just remember who is running the show now...

You don’t *really* think that Democrats are going to jeopardize their own political futures by admitting that they got it wrong with Obama, do you? LOL...


41 posted on 12/09/2008 10:29:13 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: EagleUSA

You said — “It will not happen since he cannot provide proof, because there is none. Simple really.”

And that’s why the new “mantra” will be “no proof needed; we all know Obama...” LOL...

Face it, Bush doesn’t want proof, McCain doesn’t want proof, Palin doesn’t want proof. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t want proof, the Republican Party doesn’t want proof, a lot of FReepers here don’t want proof (I’ve seen the comments saying to forget about this issue), many conservative media sites don’t want proof — and definitely the Democrats don’t want proof [... LOL...] ...

So, the only ones who are going to want proof are the “kookified ones”... :-)


42 posted on 12/09/2008 10:33:17 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: TruthWillWin

You said — “This is BS. If he has the goods it needs to be released. If not then he needs to STFU! “

This is getting to sound like the “Michelle Obama tapes” of the call to the African International Press, where she admitted that Obama was born in Kenya... LOL...

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/

We kept hearing, “We’ll release the tape soon....”

[P.S. — We’re still waiting... from before the election... :-) ...]


43 posted on 12/09/2008 10:36:03 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: CholeraJoe
You can’t say “blackout” anymore. It’s racist.

It's more of a media whiteout anyway. The information is there they just keep redacting and covering it up.

44 posted on 12/09/2008 10:49:13 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Cyclone59
Frank M Davis? Most people don't know who he was. Malcolm X? He was killed in '63. Zero can't help who his father was. And if Ann Dunham was married to 0 Sr., why would she put another man's name on the BC?

I don't see paranoia or deep embarrassment on his part if this is the case. Also, he would not have to show the world; just the Court so they would verify it. Then, we would say OK. We would accept it. And continue to fight the communism he & his cohorts are trying to force upon us.

46 posted on 12/09/2008 10:55:42 AM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: autumnraine; rodguy911
Regarding my statement about BO highly spurious birthfather and situation.....I may not be too far off.... ;)

From article -

"On his To The Point News website, Jack Wheeler has divulged that he knows "the true story" about Obama's birth situation, and it is "wild," but he — and the contact person who also runs a major news site and told him the facts — are apparently not yet prepared to reveal this shocker to the public. Wheeler said he will let the source of the information reveal it in his own time. "...The details of what he told me is for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild."

47 posted on 12/09/2008 11:03:20 AM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: ckilmer
The electronic copy of the document posted on Obama's website, authenticated by the Hawaii Department of Health and FactCheck.org, and being called his birth certificate is not a birth certificate.

Let me repeat, authenticated by the Hawaii Department of Health .

If anyone could provide a cite for that, I'd sure appreciate it.

48 posted on 12/09/2008 11:04:08 AM PST by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: ckilmer
This is what a Copy of a Certificate of Live Birth (some data redacted) issued by the State of Hawaii, Department of Health in July 1962 for the Birth of a male child in February 1962 on the Island of Oahu looks like. Note the State of Hawaii, Department of Health official embossed seal and official signatures of the then Director of Health, Leo Bernstein, MD and the then Registrar General, Charles G. Bennett. The State of Hawaii officials’ signatures and the date the document was issued are underlined in red. This document is a photographic copied image. It is a black background document with white letters which clearly were created by a 1962 typewriter. A document similar to this is what most of the lawsuits about the actual record of birth of Obama are asking to be released for public viewing. The second image is a copy of the Certification of Live Birth document which has been repeatedly “published” on a number of web sites as the Official version of Obama’s birth record from the State of Hawaii. This is no actual place of birth shown. If you had the responsibility to investigate, qualify and vet someone who is to be given a United States Military Top Secret, No Foreign Special Access Security Clearance, which document of the two images shown would you find acceptable as a genuine State of Hawaii government issued “Record of a Birth” in the State of Hawaii? You be the Judge (Roberts, Souter, Ginsburg, Scalia, Stevens, Alito, Kenny, Breyer, Thomas). Certificate-of-Live-Birth-Hawaii-1962 Certification-Of-Live-Birth-Obama-1961
49 posted on 12/09/2008 11:07:07 AM PST by NewEnglander
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To: NewEnglander

THANK YOU!!!!! That needs to be posted on EVERY BC Thread!!!


50 posted on 12/09/2008 12:57:50 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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