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Black hole found in Milky Way
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:45 GMT, | Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News

Posted on 12/09/2008 2:22:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach


A simulated Black Hole with the Milky Way in the background

There is a giant black hole at the centre of our galaxy, a study has confirmed.

German astronomers tracked the movement of 28 stars circling the centre of the Milky Way, using the European Southern Observatory in Chile.

The black hole is four million times heavier than our Sun, according to the paper in The Astrophysical Journal.

Black holes are objects whose gravity is so great that nothing - including light - can escape them.

According to Dr Robert Massy, of the Royal Astronomical Society, the results suggest that galaxies form around giant black holes in the way that a pearl forms around grit.

'The black pearl'

Dr Massy said: "Although we think of black holes as somehow threatening, in the sense that if you get too close to one you are in trouble, they may have had a role in helping galaxies to form - not just our own, but all galaxies.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackholes; stringtheory
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1 posted on 12/09/2008 2:22:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; Dog; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat; Fred Nerks; PhilDragoo; AdmSmith; SunkenCiv; ...
Taking a break from all the news of bankruptcy, indictments, missiles.,....etc!
2 posted on 12/09/2008 2:24:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Big deal. We have a black hole right here in America named Obama.


3 posted on 12/09/2008 2:24:48 PM PST by Commander X (Liberalism: Spurring the decay of the USA)
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4 posted on 12/09/2008 2:24:59 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush’s fault!


5 posted on 12/09/2008 2:25:08 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its Oprah’s Butt


6 posted on 12/09/2008 2:25:09 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom Mr. Obama, are you aware that Sarah Palin took on her own party’s establishment in Alaska a)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very cool -- sort of reminds me of this guy's eye:


7 posted on 12/09/2008 2:25:10 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I once found a rat turd in my Snickers.


8 posted on 12/09/2008 2:25:40 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There is a giant black hole at the centre of our galaxy, a study has confirmed.

Confirmation is always welcome, but this has been long suspected.

Oh, yeah:

RACIST!

:)

9 posted on 12/09/2008 2:26:01 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That looks like Barry’s campaign icon.


10 posted on 12/09/2008 2:26:27 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I fear Black Holes, Meteor Strikes and Man-Made Tectonic Collisions more than I do Man-Made Global Warming.
11 posted on 12/09/2008 2:27:35 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought this was confirmed years ago. Maybe just an generally accepted theory?


12 posted on 12/09/2008 2:27:54 PM PST by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought they’d find the black hole in Uranus.


13 posted on 12/09/2008 2:27:58 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Commander X
We have a black hole right here in America named Obama.

God willing, his legal relationship with the governor of Illinois will be his undoing. Biden is too stupid to be of concern and is too arrogant to be handled by the anti-American eminence grice handlers of the new fuhrer.

Let's hope and pray for deliverance.

14 posted on 12/09/2008 2:28:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: All
Related BBC Article:

Black hole star mystery 'solved'

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The researchers modelled how molecular clouds are sucked into black holes

Astronomers have shed light on how stars can form around a massive black hole, defying conventional wisdom.

Scientists have long wondered how stars develop in such extreme conditions.

Molecular clouds - the normal birth places of stars - would be ripped apart by the immense gravity, a team explains in Science magazine.

But the researchers say stars can form from elliptical discs - the relics of giant gas clouds torn apart by encounters with black holes.

They made the discovery after developing computer simulations of giant gas clouds being sucked into black holes like water spiralling down a plughole.

"These simulations show that young stars can form in the neighbourhood of supermassive black holes as long as there is a reasonable supply of massive clouds of gas from further out in the galaxy," said co-author Ian Bonnell from St Andrews University, UK.

Ripped apart

Their findings are in accordance with actual observations in our Milky Way galaxy that indicate the presence of a massive black hole, surrounded by huge stars with eccentric orbits.

The simulations, performed on a supercomputer - and taking over a year of computing time - followed the evolution of two separate giant gas clouds up to 100,000 times the mass of the Sun, as they fell towards the supermassive black hole.

15 posted on 12/09/2008 2:29:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SERKIT
Why not, they both represent an irresistible force that sucks the very existence from everything in its grasp.

That's a bit dramatic but cathartic none the less

16 posted on 12/09/2008 2:29:58 PM PST by JrsyJack (We Shoot, We Vote, We're angry!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why do black holes always look like they’re mad at something?


17 posted on 12/09/2008 2:31:21 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That has GOT to be the cheesiest imitation space picture ever!

(And I've seen Ed Wood movies!)


18 posted on 12/09/2008 2:31:42 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s called Congress.


19 posted on 12/09/2008 2:31:44 PM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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Black Holes Renamed 'Super High Gravity Locations'
20 posted on 12/09/2008 2:32:23 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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The Black Pearl?

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If it was a massive black hole, how come Sausage Franks didn't find it?

21 posted on 12/09/2008 2:32:57 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Black hole found in Milky Way

Obama's brain cavity?



22 posted on 12/09/2008 2:35:07 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like a mamogram


23 posted on 12/09/2008 2:35:11 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom Mr. Obama, are you aware that Sarah Palin took on her own party’s establishment in Alaska a)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They made the discovery after developing computer simulations of giant gas clouds being sucked into black holes like water spiralling down a plughole.

I'm a genius! I made that connection years ago while cleaning my bathtub. It's Universal Recycling.

24 posted on 12/09/2008 2:35:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Commander X
Quick! Give it a stimulus package!
25 posted on 12/09/2008 2:35:56 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Tasty donut holes good. Black solar system holes bad.
26 posted on 12/09/2008 2:36:03 PM PST by Funee Kat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That is a terrible simulation photo.


27 posted on 12/09/2008 2:36:09 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whoopi Goldberg is the center of the galaxy?


28 posted on 12/09/2008 2:36:30 PM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead

thats hoe not hole.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 2:37:29 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Did anyone read Singularity by Bill DeSmedt? We have a black hole inside the earth and it's going to suck us all and the earth into it and WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!
30 posted on 12/09/2008 2:39:39 PM PST by LiberConservative ("I would have looked forward to debating anybody." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Izzy Dunne
What they didn't show you...


31 posted on 12/09/2008 2:39:48 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Smithsonian Magazine had a fascinating article over the summer about how this effort was being accomplished. It’s staggering to me that it’s possible to do some of the things these folks are doing, such as measuring light deflections and interactions at the galaxy’s core.

They can’t see the black hole, only imply it’s presence, because there are billions of stars in orbit around the black hole and it’s blocked from any direct view. But the influence it’s gravity has on the orbits of the stars we can see is measurable...

I’ll stop there because we are getting into talking about the longest of long-haired theoretical mathematics here....


32 posted on 12/09/2008 2:41:04 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: Commander X
Big deal. We have a black hole right here in America named Obama.

You should be ashamed of yourself..... snicker, snicker.

33 posted on 12/09/2008 2:43:07 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WHY A BLACK HOLE? WHY NOT A WHITE HOLE? RACIST!!!!!


34 posted on 12/09/2008 2:44:10 PM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A Real Black Hole...
35 posted on 12/09/2008 2:45:26 PM PST by traumer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let’s send Algore to make sure it’s not emitting greenhouse gasses.

BEAM ME TO PLANET GORE!!!!!!!


36 posted on 12/09/2008 2:48:20 PM PST by pjluke (thank you Mr. Kalashnikov!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

ROFL!


37 posted on 12/09/2008 2:50:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Evidence for Ultra-Energetic Particles in Jet from Black Hole (Yale University, July 26)

THE MADNESS OF BLACK HOLES.

38 posted on 12/09/2008 2:51:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is really a secret message from other worlds giving their approval for electing the O.

Notice it is a Black hole. And the hole is shaped like an O, for Obama, black O Obama.

Wher’s my tin foil hat.


39 posted on 12/09/2008 2:54:19 PM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: Fred Nerks

Galactic warming...........


40 posted on 12/09/2008 2:54:24 PM PST by Cheryllynn
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To: traumer

No I think that is a real black hoe.


41 posted on 12/09/2008 2:59:41 PM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: reagan_fanatic

ROFLMAO.

That NOLA guy with the beer surely does get around. He got around a black hole.


42 posted on 12/09/2008 3:19:20 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Edmund Burke)
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To: evets

I would have thought sooner, but number four is pretty quick.


43 posted on 12/09/2008 3:35:48 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach.

44 posted on 12/09/2008 5:20:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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45 posted on 12/09/2008 6:36:22 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Heartlander

good one


46 posted on 12/09/2008 7:27:02 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred Nerks
Spitzer... black hole... Not going there...

-PJ

47 posted on 12/09/2008 7:29:42 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fear not the black hole that sucketh thee in, like Ye Olde Amway Distributor; but rather fear ye the white hole that speweth thee out as cosmic vomit carnage upon the universe.


48 posted on 12/09/2008 9:12:44 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Chandra Levy, so that’s where she went. :p


49 posted on 12/09/2008 9:16:39 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: dragonblustar

I wish he could call in gay to work for the rest of this century.


50 posted on 12/09/2008 9:17:49 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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