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Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in Catholic schools, say church leaders
Daily Mail ^ | 02nd December 2008 | Simon Caldwell

Posted on 12/09/2008 3:09:04 PM PST by Lorianne

Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, church leaders have said.

The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.

The demands go way beyond legal requirements on catering for religious minorities.

But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith - want to answer critics who say religious schools sow division.

The recommendations were made in a document, Catholic Schools, Children of Other Faiths and Community Cohesion. 'If practicable, a room (or rooms) might be made available for the use of pupils and staff from other faiths for prayer,' the bishops said.

'Existing toilet facilities might be adapted to accommodate individual ritual cleansing which is sometimes part of religious lifestyle and worship.

'If such space is not available on a permanent or regular basis, extra efforts might be made to address such need for major religious festivals.'

The Islamic cleansing ritual, called 'Wudhu', is carried out by Muslims before they pray.

Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

Wudhu involves washing the face, hands, arms and feet three times each, gargling the mouth three times and washing the neck and inside the nose and ears. Some Muslims also wash their private parts.Catholic schools would need to install bidets, foot spas and hoses to facilitate such extensive cleansing rituals, Muslims say.

Daphne McLeod, a former Catholic head teacher from south London, said it would be 'terribly expensive' for the country's 2,300 Catholic primary and secondary schools to provide ritual cleansing facilities.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
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Where are the Catholic prayer rooms in Muslim schools?
1 posted on 12/09/2008 3:09:04 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

So what if you break wind during a prayer? (I have often wondered about that while looking at the mass prayer pictures)


2 posted on 12/09/2008 3:12:15 PM PST by Technocrat (Palin-Romney 2012!! Or vice versa.)
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To: Lorianne

Goodbye, England. Hello, Londonistan.

I am so glad I took my family to see it before The Capitulation.


3 posted on 12/09/2008 3:12:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Lorianne

I think they should have Muslim prayer rooms in Catholic schools. They should start building them right after McDonald’s gets a victualler’s license to start selling bacon cheese burgers in Mecca.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 3:12:51 PM PST by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: Lorianne
Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

Too much information...

5 posted on 12/09/2008 3:13:22 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: Lorianne

Why not? Christendoms’ greatest cathedral, the Hagia Sophia, is now a mosque so why not convert Catholic schools into madrassahs?


6 posted on 12/09/2008 3:13:29 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember the 26th of November.)
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To: Lorianne

How about starting a Jewish Temple inside a Mosque.


7 posted on 12/09/2008 3:13:57 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: Lorianne
The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.

Then you get exactly what you deserve London/UK.

8 posted on 12/09/2008 3:14:36 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Lorianne
"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.".......God.

Christians and Muslims do not worship the same god.

You can bet Muslims would not think of allowing a prayer room for Chrisians.

9 posted on 12/09/2008 3:14:45 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Lorianne
F the rotten pig scum muslims.
WHEN WILL THE WEST LEARN?
THEY ARE SCUM AND WANT TO KILL US.
10 posted on 12/09/2008 3:14:45 PM PST by realdifferent1 (We've tried the soap box, jury box and ballot box. Only one box left.)
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To: Technocrat

Cracked me up with that one.

Wonder if there’s a scramble for the front row.


12 posted on 12/09/2008 3:15:01 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: Lorianne
Wudhu involves washing the face, hands, arms and feet three times each, gargling the mouth three times and washing the neck and inside the nose and ears. Some Muslims also wash their private parts.Catholic schools would need to install bidets, foot spas and hoses to facilitate such extensive cleansing rituals, Muslims say.

Whoa! They have to do this everytime they pass gas? Good grief.

13 posted on 12/09/2008 3:15:54 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Lorianne
The Catholic bishops of England and Wales ... should be removed from his position for requesting such a thing.
14 posted on 12/09/2008 3:16:23 PM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Technocrat

Yeah. . .along those lines I always wondered about a religion where you pray with your butt in the air and in the face of the guy behind you. . . but then again, given the sexual repression and homosexuality of that cult, perhaps it makes sense after all.


15 posted on 12/09/2008 3:17:04 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Lorianne

I would venture to guess that there are not enough Catholics going to Muslim schools for there to even be a demand for their own prayer rooms. This is probably the case for most other religions also. I really doubt that there is much demand for non-Muslim prayer rooms in any Muslim schools.


16 posted on 12/09/2008 3:17:04 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You make a great point that I was trying to make in my post.

You cannot be a Christian church or religious facility at all if you allow worship of other religions.

Why don’t the Catholic schools just start letting Satanists have Black Mass. I mean we wouldn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings or anything.


17 posted on 12/09/2008 3:17:34 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Technocrat
So what if you break wind during a prayer?

According to islamic tradition, if you feel a gastrointestinal burst coming on, you must immediately turn about and point your ass towards Mecca before the ill wind parts your cheeks.
18 posted on 12/09/2008 3:17:37 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: MahatmaGandu

Hagia Sohia is neither a Church or Mosque at this time. It’s a museum now.


19 posted on 12/09/2008 3:17:46 PM PST by SeanOGuano
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To: Lorianne

Muslims are allowed to attend Christian churches if there is no mosque convenient. And vice versa I suppose. Can’t do all the rituals of course.


20 posted on 12/09/2008 3:18:34 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Technocrat

You look at the person closest to you and say, “Stop that!”.


21 posted on 12/09/2008 3:18:46 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: autumnraine
"I, the Lord God am a jealous god."

Ain't gonna work.

22 posted on 12/09/2008 3:20:08 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: MahatmaGandu
the Hagia Sophia

It was for a while. Is it still?

23 posted on 12/09/2008 3:20:39 PM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Lorianne

Muslims don’t see such a thing as an expression of Christian love. They see it as proof that they are superior. They take it as their due.

Catholic schools fill a tremendous need. They can’t do it if they’ve lost faith in what they do. You have to wonder if the school’s leadership has lost faith in what they do, maybe they’ve lost faith in the God who directs what they do. If thats the case, they need to take a sabbatical and get someone in there who knows why he is there.


24 posted on 12/09/2008 3:20:40 PM PST by marron
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To: Lorianne

I got question what hell is Muslums doing in Cathoic school that question


25 posted on 12/09/2008 3:21:07 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: autumnraine

I bet there’s a whole lot of cheating going on. What think you?


26 posted on 12/09/2008 3:21:11 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: autumnraine

While it is written that they follow this procedure, like people in all religions, most do not do everything by the book.


27 posted on 12/09/2008 3:21:29 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: autumnraine

Well, I do suppose that they do seep a little when they pass gas what with all the hummus!


28 posted on 12/09/2008 3:21:56 PM PST by montomike (I'm a conservative...not a Republican.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; antceecee; TAdams8591
Christians and Muslims do not worship the same god.

Exactly right. And any Catholic, especially a member of the clergy, who claims so should be automatically excommunicated.

29 posted on 12/09/2008 3:22:26 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: Lorianne
But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith...

This is about nothing but money: non-Catholic/non-Christian enrollees are paying the bills, so their parents are making demands. And the Catholics are caving.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to receive...cash.

30 posted on 12/09/2008 3:22:28 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: autumnraine

Not all students in Catholic schools, are Catholic.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 3:22:39 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: autumnraine

The same type of Catholic bishops who shoveled millions in parishoner funds to support ACORN and elect baby killers in America.


32 posted on 12/09/2008 3:23:24 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: SevenofNine

Probably better than the public schools.


33 posted on 12/09/2008 3:23:55 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: autumnraine

The same type of Catholic bishops who shoveled millions in parishoner funds to support ACORN and elect baby killers in America.


34 posted on 12/09/2008 3:24:02 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Lorianne

Nowhere.

Just when I start respecting some of the bishops again when they stand up to 0bama, this happens.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 3:24:20 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: La Enchiladita

There is only one God for all.


36 posted on 12/09/2008 3:24:44 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Frantzie

... while preaching “peace” and “justice.”


37 posted on 12/09/2008 3:24:50 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: stuartcr

There IS only one GOD.

However, not all worship the ONE GOD.

The moslem allah is of Satan.


38 posted on 12/09/2008 3:26:09 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: Lorianne

Where are the Catholic prayer rooms in Muslim schools?
never!


39 posted on 12/09/2008 3:26:35 PM PST by omega4179 ( Those who can't write, write the news)
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To: Lorianne
You can't even turn to the church for common sense. Their out of thier minds, have they any clue what they do to young girls who are forcibly raped by family members? the father or sibling slits their throats, cuts thier heads off and displays it to thier neighbors, stones them to death in front of all in the town in the name of family honor. Women are tortured beaten raped enslaved and the catholic church wants to welcome them into thier family, I am truly sick!
40 posted on 12/09/2008 3:26:35 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( When CHANGE comes let me know, I'll put my tin foil hat on and sit in front of myTV)
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To: Technocrat

Let it out s-l-o-w-l-y


41 posted on 12/09/2008 3:26:49 PM PST by rahbert
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To: rahbert
Let it out s-l-o-w-l-y

S.B.D.

42 posted on 12/09/2008 3:30:07 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration: The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: Lorianne

The punishment for a muslim apostate....death. Religion of peace my A$$. No wonder it’s a fast-growing religion, nobody dares leave it.


43 posted on 12/09/2008 3:30:26 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: stuartcr

So? What’s your point?

They don’t have to be Catholic. They just don’t get to practice their religion in the school.


44 posted on 12/09/2008 3:30:34 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Lorianne

Haven’t many schools upened up Muslim foot washing centers?

Christian groups should meet there for prayer meetings and Bible studies.


45 posted on 12/09/2008 3:34:43 PM PST by earlJam
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To: Lorianne

Islam is paganism, plain and simple, and debating silly questions like this is where multiculturalism gets Christians. If an Islamic prayer room, why not a special area for Satanists or Scientology folks? They are less violent, just as Christian, and every bit as as valid as Islam. Allah may be an ancient pagan god, a mythologized, dead ancestor, (once known as Enlil), but he is no less a part of our pagan past than Satan, and a whole lot less real. I hope you Catholics who are smart enough to see this for the nonsense it is will get the Pope’s ear. The non Islamic world should recognize that Islam is out to reduce us to its primitive ignorance or kill us. We shouldn’t help them.


46 posted on 12/09/2008 3:36:41 PM PST by pallis
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To: Lorianne

The catholic church is having a nervous breakdown.


47 posted on 12/09/2008 3:39:49 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Lorianne
Sure. When madrissas have Bibles and chapels for Christian students.
48 posted on 12/09/2008 3:46:22 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Lorianne

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT


49 posted on 12/09/2008 3:47:30 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: Lorianne

50 posted on 12/09/2008 3:51:43 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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