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UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
US Senate Committee on Science and Public Works ^ | 12/10/08 | Marc Morano

Posted on 12/10/2008 9:32:36 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF

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To: PMAS

It’s Big Brother math: 2 + 2 = 5.


51 posted on 12/10/2008 11:59:07 AM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

This is gonna piss off Pelosi and Company who are heavily invested in the “green energy” markets.

This also puts a thorn in Obama’s “economic recovery” plan to make America Green.


52 posted on 12/10/2008 12:00:47 PM PST by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: missnry

There is the immediate reward of “study funding” -

but the real goal of promoting AGW is that it is a vehicle to global socialism.

If the AGW vehicle doesn’t work for them, they’ll try something else.


53 posted on 12/10/2008 12:01:16 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

bump


54 posted on 12/10/2008 12:02:24 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: enviros_kill

Is there more information on this conference? Is it available to the public?


55 posted on 12/10/2008 12:16:00 PM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: SouthTexas
You, me, and who else?

We'll all be paying for this scam for decades to come, if not longer. In the West we'll end up paying for carbon offset scams, excessive regulation, jobs destroyed and jobs never created. In poorer parts of the world it will be worse. At a certain level "Global Warming" is a regressive tax that targets the poor.

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

56 posted on 12/10/2008 12:22:41 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: pleikumud
By the way, CO2 is only present in trace amounts - the latest estimate being about 380 parts per million. Water vapor is far more common.

Agreed. And deadly dihydrogen oxide, which exists in the atmosphere in concentrations eight times as great as carbon dioxide kills thousands of people and causes billions of dollars in environmental damage every year!

If we are going to ban a greenhouse gas, I say we should ban this one! (Or at least dilute it by mixing it with 45% ethanol before drinking it.)

57 posted on 12/10/2008 12:38:22 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
I urge all fellow FR's that have a science degree of BS and up to check out the following petition to congress to steer clear of Kyoto. Perhaps we FR's should keep organized in some fashion, as it would be great to know how many FR's contributed to this petition.

Global Warming Petition Project

58 posted on 12/10/2008 2:18:50 PM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

I suspect a lot of readers don’t know you are talking about WATER. :)-


59 posted on 12/10/2008 2:34:44 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Haven’t these morons heard the debate is over! /sarcasm


60 posted on 12/10/2008 4:10:06 PM PST by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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To: Gene Eric

Global warming has become a new religion,that take Freedommm away


61 posted on 12/10/2008 4:42:25 PM PST by thetru
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

***FYI***Timeline to Global Governance ***FYI*** http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519045/posts


62 posted on 12/10/2008 4:44:37 PM PST by thetru
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Obama’s $845 billion U.N. plan forwarded to U.S. Senate floor
‘Global Poverty Act’ to cost each citizen $2,500 or more http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70308


63 posted on 12/10/2008 4:46:48 PM PST by thetru
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To: steelyourfaith

New World Order Rising? - Thoughts on the UN World Summit on Sustainable Development http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743512/posts?page=10


64 posted on 12/10/2008 4:48:24 PM PST by thetru
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To: fightinbluhen51

New World Order Rising? - Thoughts on the UN World Summit on Sustainable Development


65 posted on 12/10/2008 4:50:14 PM PST by thetru
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To: thetru

Interesting. That goes back a few years.


66 posted on 12/10/2008 4:50:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: PMAS

No unnatural acts by government to get us to change. That is the whole problem with the government trying to interfere with what type of cars we decide to purchase.


67 posted on 12/10/2008 4:55:54 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Great quote, thanks~!


68 posted on 12/10/2008 5:06:36 PM PST by SouthTexas (Remember, it took a Jimmy Carter to bring us a Ronald Reagan!)
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To: RightWhale

I believe SSN 1009 is the first group I’ve seen in the solar southern hemisphere. We are still a bit slow ramping up solar flux for this Cycle. Developing . . . . . . . .


69 posted on 12/10/2008 7:07:13 PM PST by Blue_Spark
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To: C210N

Does an engineering degree count?

BTW, again...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Ice_Age_Temperature.png


70 posted on 12/10/2008 8:22:14 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Sounds like “State of Fear” book


71 posted on 12/10/2008 8:31:14 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Then again, this viewpoint often prevails in poorer countries: “Build more coal fueled power plants!”

For example, in the Philippines:

“Proponent assures cheaper power rate with coal plant”

“AN OFFICIAL of Global Business Power Corporation (GBPC) assured Wednesday that Iloilo City will definitely have stable and sustainable electricity through a coal-fired power plant by 2011.

GBPC Executive Vice President Arman Lapus assured the Regional Development Council (RDC) that the coal plant project in the city will bring down the cost of electricity by some P2 to P3 per kilowatt-hour consumption.

In a briefing with members of the RDC infrastructure committee chaired by Mayor Jerry P. Treñas Wednesday, Lapus said the power cut will be triggered by privatization of some power plants of the National Power Corporation (Napocor) throughout the country.

He said there will be no more government subsidy for Napocor plants as soon as there will be a change in price structuring of its plants in Dingle, Iloilo which supplies power in Panay Island.

The National Government has sold two power plants in Dingle to the Singaporean firm Salcon Corp. for more than $5 million, and that electric power consumers will have to buy from the Wholesale Electricity Spot Market (WESM) in the Visayas Grid.

GBPC Assistant Vice President Adrian Moncada meantime said that power generated from the coal plant is much cheaper than those fired by bunker, diesel, gas and renewable or alternative fuel.

The sole private sector-funded coal power plant will be using a proven and tested mature technology, such as the circulating fluidized bed combustion (CFBC) and readily available raw materials like coal from Semirara, Antique and in surrounding countries like China, Australia and Kalimantan, Indonesia.

There will also be no danger to the underground water source since the coal plant will be using seawater and the so-called “desalination system of seawater” through osmosis reversion for its water needs in running the plant.

Treñas said two coal-fired power plants are to be established in Iloilo: one at Barangay Ingore with 164MW by GBPC and the other one at Barangay Nipa, Concepcion with 100 MW operated by the David M Consunji Inc. (DMCI).

Both plants are expected to be operational by early 2011.”

(Sunstar Online, Nov. 26, 2008)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/iloilo/proponent-assures-cheaper-power-rate-coal-plant


72 posted on 12/10/2008 8:36:04 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: cheee

Thank you for that. I may use it.


73 posted on 12/10/2008 9:25:50 PM PST by egannacht
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To: AmericanGirlRising

Don’t forget paying WAY more (and being seen) at Whole Foods...


74 posted on 12/11/2008 12:07:50 AM PST by MonicaG (Freedom isn't free!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

who can we sue...

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75 posted on 12/11/2008 10:15:08 AM PST by teeman8r
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To: wastedyears

yes and yes.

I’ve listened to all of the podcasts from the March 2008 climate realist conference and downloaded the available presos. Dr. Tim Ball podcast is exceptional as are several others.
Get them here:
http://www.heartland.org/NewYork08/proceedings.html

2009 conference info
http://www.heartland.org/events/NewYork09/background.html


76 posted on 12/11/2008 5:04:26 PM PST by enviros_kill
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To: enviros_kill

This guy Tim Slagle on the videos is really funny.


77 posted on 12/11/2008 11:13:14 PM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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