Skip to comments.St. Petersburgh Times Closes the Case on BHO COLB?
Posted on 12/10/2008 10:55:56 AM PST by jackofhearts
St Petersberg Times spoke with the DoH months ago.The St Petersberg Times fact checkers had running story on this back in June and actually contacted the HI DoH and were satisfied. When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.
Its a valid Hawaii state birth certificate, spokesman Janice Okubo told us.
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Yup, I’m to believe a MSM journalist.
Can you say “Dan Rather”?
So Obama sent them the real birth certificate? Could the state seal be seen on the back side? They are only going by what is on the front side. Again easily photo shopped if only the front side.
Yep, and Zer0 has not seen Blag since the election, nor have any of his thugs er guys.
O can get this monkey off his back by simply producing the birth certificate. I don’t see the problem...(/s)
Well, I’ve just read Okubo’s statement, and she does NOT say that it matches the original vault certificate or that it’s genuine. She says that it looks genuine. Gee whiz.
Or, to be precise, she says it looks like her own birth certificate FROM LAST YEAR (one of the problems with the forgery is that it uses last year’s border with this year’s date), and also that some flunky in the office thought he could see signs of the embossed stamp from the back (but that has been debunked by Polarik, too).
The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obamas birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.
I guess the big issue thats being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature, Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. Because they scanned the front you wouldnt see those things.
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.
Still, she acknowledges: I dont know that its possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.
What do you all think? No good, when has this party ever been right?
What is the financial viability of this rag?
So the copy the St. Pete Pravda examined is the same as the birth certificate under seal, right??? Then why have one sealed???
This is the paper that is owned by the Poynter Institute.
Knowing the arcana of Hawaiian state statutes governing such documents as we do now, this statement is meaningless. It doesn't prove or disprove anything. Most statements by Hawaii officials regarding this issue, not uncoincidentally, fail to prove or disprove anything. And, that is logical, given the controversy and the legal maneuvering occurring over the question.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama really was born in Hawaii and he’s just playing a game of teasing conservatives.
If he has no qualms about making the document public, why limit who has access to it?
Hand it to the judge in these cases where there are people claiming that the document has not been released.
Or maybe it isn’t THE document, but a notice of record.
If there was nothing to this, why are there even hearings?
Kerry never did release his military records to his critics either, let alone his diary.
No, it is the same “Certification of Live Birth” that factcheck.org supposedlyl handled.
And I wonder if they actually handled it or sent the downloaded image to Hawaii.
The second image is a copy of the Certification of Live Birth document which has been repeatedly published on a number of web sites as the Official version of Obamas birth record from the State of Hawaii. This is no actual place of birth (hospital, plantation, farm, etc.) shown. See boxes #6a through 6d of the document shown in the first image. There is also no Department of Health official embossed seal on this document.
On November 1, 2008, the following email was send:
To The Honorable Linda Lingle Dear Governor Lingle,
I ask that you release all information that the State of Hawaii Department of Health has on Senator Barack Obama's Certificate of Live Birth documentation.
Certainly over 100 million or so Americans, our countrymen, who will be voting on November 4th, 2008 deserve to have this information be publicly made available to them as part of the information they will weigh concerning a candidate as each of them places their vote for President on or before this date.
I can think of no higher purpose for any government entity or branch, than to ensure full, fair, and accurate information is given about a Presidential candidate.
As you well know, the "COLB" or other documents presented as true copies by the Barack Obama campaign website are false and have been digitally modified. As you must realize, this falsification of a presupposed State of Hawaii "official" record, directly and indirectly damages all State of Hawaii real birth records.
These falsehoods from the Obama campaign are a direct attack on the integrity of your governorship and on the integrity of all records kept by the State of Hawaii.
When you took your oath of Office as Governor of the state of Hawaii, did you not also swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States?
By not addresses this issue how and fully, you are also directly denigrating the official State of Hawaii recognition of the birth record of my son who was born in Hawaii just several months after the date of the record(s) in question.
This issue MUST be answered by the truth. By not addresses this issue, you are not fulfilling your oath of office.
Resident of the State of Hawaii
As a response the following statement attributed to the current Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, Chiyome Fukino, MD and the current Registrar General per their joint press release on October 31, 2008 was returned by email: in part: Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. Their complete public statement clearly made no references to the key data to be found in #6 boxes and well as the supporting data as in the #7 boxes in the first image.
In fact this response by the office of the Governor of the State of Hawaii was a very disingenuous and a fraudulent response to my original query.
If you had the responsibility to investigate, qualify and vet someone who is to be given a United States Military Top Secret, No Foreign Special Access Security Clearance including the nuclear weapons launch control codes, which document of the two images shown would you find acceptable as a genuine State of Hawaii government issued Record of a Birth in the State of Hawaii?
Did the article reproduce the text of the e-mail and, if so, what did it actually say and who signed it?
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