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Teens' nude photos get unexpected results
Boston Globe ^ | 10 December 2008 | Irene Sege

Posted on 12/10/2008 11:26:19 AM PST by Fractal Trader

The high school in Salem, N.H., was abuzz last month as a photograph of a topless 15-year-old girl was sent from cellphone to cellphone.

School staff intervened, and by the time they met with students in assemblies the next day they had discovered another compromising cellphone photo, this one of an eighth-grade girl. They soon found two more photos of naked or nearly naked girls on students' phones. Two weeks later, a similar incident occurred at nearby Sanborn Regional High School. The photograph in question was of a teenage boy.

A report being released today shows that these were not isolated incidents but part of a national trend. One-fifth of teenagers surveyed have sent or posted nude or seminude pictures or videos of themselves, usually to a boyfriend or girlfriend, and almost a third have received such images, according to "Sex and Tech," a new study by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unwanted Pregnancy and CosmoGirl.com.

Among young adults (ages 20-26), the numbers are higher: One-third said they have posted or sent racy images of themselves, and almost half have received them. TRU, a company that specializes in youth research, conducted the survey online with 1,280 teenagers and young adults selected from its database of research participants.

A spokesman for the National Campaign, a nonprofit group that advocates for sex education and access to contraceptives, said he is concerned about the link between what happens online and what happens in real life.

"What young people report is that this sort of online behavior contributes to a casual hookup culture," said Bill Albert, the group's chief program officer. "The overwhelming majority of teens and young adults don't do this, but when you get numbers like 20 percent and higher for young adults, that passes the threshhold of concern."

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Hmm...and no mention that these pictures are criminal, as in child pornography?
1 posted on 12/10/2008 11:26:20 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

This is why I don’t allow my daughter to have a cell phone with a camera in it.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 11:28:45 AM PST by RgnRepublic
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To: Fractal Trader

This type of stuff is illegal.

I say the schools need to have a strict no cell phone policy.

In emergencies, parents can always call the school. That’s what they did when I was a kid.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 11:29:28 AM PST by lmr
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To: Fractal Trader
One-fifth of teenagers surveyed have sent or posted nude or seminude pictures or videos of themselves

My daughter is still a half a dozen years to young to be participating in behavior like this, but I can only imagine the mortification a parent must feel when confronted with this.

That being said, where would one go to view pictures such as this? For informational purposes of course.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

4 posted on 12/10/2008 11:30:02 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: RgnRepublic

She can’t send but can receive................


5 posted on 12/10/2008 11:30:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Fractal Trader

Is this the one where some parents are actually suing the school for ‘passing around’ the pictures to other teachers to try to determine who was in the pic?


6 posted on 12/10/2008 11:30:48 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Fractal Trader

if it is kids sending to kids is it still considered child porno as it would relate to being passed between adults or adults taking the pics....??...then again this was northen new england right...??...nuff said...


7 posted on 12/10/2008 11:30:48 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Fractal Trader
Hmm...and no mention that these pictures are criminal, as in child pornography?

Well sure ... but apparently it's the kids themselves who are posting the pictures and videos. Can you call them "criminals" in the same sense as a NAMBLA mouth-breather?

8 posted on 12/10/2008 11:31:14 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Fractal Trader
"The overwhelming majority of teens and young adults don't do this, but when you get numbers like 20 percent and higher for young adults, that passes the threshhold of concern."

I think that the threshold of concern is a bit lower, some where around 2 to 5 percent.

20 percent is pandemic neighborhood.

9 posted on 12/10/2008 11:31:26 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: RgnRepublic
This is why I don’t allow my daughter to have a cell phone with a camera in it.

How do you control all of her friends and associates, who probably Do have a phone with a camera. Or a digital camera. Or a webcam.

If your kid wants to post nudie pics, he/she will, and there's little other than good parenting (and even that won't always work), you can do to stop it.

not knocking you, just saying...

10 posted on 12/10/2008 11:32:47 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: lmr

Some schools do have such a policy. Making it work is the problem. Even requiring parents to pay a fine to get them back does not limit them.


11 posted on 12/10/2008 11:33:22 AM PST by mathluv
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To: lmr
"I say the schools need to have a strict no cell phone policy. "

Exactly!

Other places of importance ban cell phones and so can the schools.

A couple of years ago I went and took the U.S.Postal Carriers exam, and we were told that if they heard a cell phone ring, that person would immediately be escorted out of the building and given an "F" on their test. There were two there who did not believe it...and when their phones rang, they were flunked and escorted out.

There is no need under the sun for a kid to have a cell phone at school. I don't think they even need one until they go to college, at least. It's become a national obsession.
13 posted on 12/10/2008 11:33:51 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
That being said, where would one go to view pictures such as this? For informational purposes of course.

County jail.

14 posted on 12/10/2008 11:34:09 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: mathluv

What was that the Pope said about technology?


15 posted on 12/10/2008 11:34:13 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Owl_Eagle

She’ll always be too young...


16 posted on 12/10/2008 11:34:33 AM PST by donna (Sarah Palin: A Feminist, not a Conservative.)
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To: Fractal Trader
Hmm...and no mention that these pictures are criminal, as in child pornography?

Under New Hampshire law, [Rockingham County Attorney Jim Reams] said, students disseminating an inappropriate photo of someone under 16 can be considered to be distributing child pornography. Come January, the threshhold in New Hampshire goes to 18.

I'm quite surprised that kids today would do this. I thought they were supposed to be "tech savvy". I mean, isn't it pretty easy for those cellphone pics to get on the Internet?

Aren't they worried about that?

17 posted on 12/10/2008 11:35:03 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: RgnRepublic

I don’t want my kid to be tempted to smoke so I don’t let him carry matches.


18 posted on 12/10/2008 11:35:27 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: mathluv

Where my wife teaches (Forest Park..arruughh..) they have the no phones policy but it doesn’t stop the kids, every time I’m up there I count dozens of kids with bluetooth headsets or phones to their ears. They will call friends in class and if she tries to take the phone, they will call their parents (which backfires 90% of the time)...and this is a middle school...


19 posted on 12/10/2008 11:35:40 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Red Badger; RgnRepublic
She can’t send but can receive..

I have email and text messaging blocked on my daughters cell phone.

Can you actually buy a cell phone with out a camera these days?

20 posted on 12/10/2008 11:35:45 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: massgopguy

I have no idea.


21 posted on 12/10/2008 11:35:51 AM PST by mathluv
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To: r9etb
Can you call them "criminals" in the same sense as a NAMBLA mouth-breather?

Possession of any pictures of nude children is a felony. The fact that they are juveniles does not play any role in determining guilt, though it might affect the punishment. But, remember, many teens have become convicted felons for their dealings with marijuana.

22 posted on 12/10/2008 11:36:24 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: mnehrling

Of course, I know the school. About two weeks ago, a student in Diana was caught texting during a test. They took up a lot of phones - just from the 6th graders.


23 posted on 12/10/2008 11:37:41 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Pontiac
Can you actually buy a cell phone with out a camera these days?

Yes........When my daughter, now 22, was 16 and wanted a cell phone, she asked for "Text Messaging" at the phone store. I said why? None of your friends can read, can they? I thought the clerk was going to fall on the floor he was laffing so hard........

24 posted on 12/10/2008 11:39:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Are you at it again?


25 posted on 12/10/2008 11:39:17 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: mathluv

I am surprised (ok, not really) the technology 6ths graders have at this so called ‘highest poverty’ school in the area. Of course, I think there is a lot of number fudging or ‘unreported’ income with many of them. Last night we had a choir dress rehearsal and you wouldn’t believe the number of these kids in poverty(sic) being picked up in Escalades or 300s with tens of thousands of dollars worth of stereo equipment and rims.


26 posted on 12/10/2008 11:40:37 AM PST by mnehring
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To: FrankR
There is no need under the sun for a kid to have a cell phone at school.

You can't see some type of natural or person-made emergency that might necessitate the ability of your child to be able to contact you (or the authorities) by cell phone from school? I can think of several scenarios where I want my son to have access to his cell phone at school -- even though it must be turned off and kept out of sight during instructional periods.

27 posted on 12/10/2008 11:42:38 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Owl_Eagle

Owlie, you soooo baaaaaaaaaad. You gonna gets a whuppin! :)


28 posted on 12/10/2008 11:43:07 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Fractal Trader
If she wants to get my attention,
she needs to send me pics like this!


29 posted on 12/10/2008 11:43:40 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: Fractal Trader
Maybe if they charged some of the kids who take the pictures (including those who take pictures of themselves) with production of child pornography charges, that would send a message that would stick?
30 posted on 12/10/2008 11:44:07 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: mnehrling
When the 'Angel Trees' have requests for games for the XBoxes, etc., I will question the 'poverty' of any place.

My grandsons went to Denmark this summer. The oldest came back with a comment of the obesity 'epidemic' in our country.

31 posted on 12/10/2008 11:44:27 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Red Badger
Red, you need a new group of friends...

LOL!

32 posted on 12/10/2008 11:45:20 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Red Badger
When my daughter, now 22, was 16 and wanted a cell phone,

I meant today. That’s six years ago.

33 posted on 12/10/2008 11:46:28 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

You’re TERRIBLE!....................., That being said, let me know if you find that link.......


34 posted on 12/10/2008 11:46:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

That’s funny. Good for you.


35 posted on 12/10/2008 11:46:56 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Red Badger
Not if you disable messaging on the kid's phones like I have (AT&T). They can only receive “service messages”, i.e. text messages from AT&T itself.
36 posted on 12/10/2008 11:47:05 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: mathluv

I always look for the angel tree requests where the kids want books or educational things like leap frogs.


37 posted on 12/10/2008 11:47:08 AM PST by mnehring
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To: VRWCmember

i agree, my 14 and 17 yos both have cellphones at school which have never been a problem. if your kid is trustworthy, having a cellphone will not matter one way or the other. if they aren’t, they are going to get into trouble, cellphone or not. Freepers are the first ones to scream about guns and SUVs being blamed for things, yet one can hear them screaming about cellphones causing shenanigans. SHENANIGANS will happen, if the flesh is willing, irrespective of technology.


38 posted on 12/10/2008 11:47:11 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Fractal Trader
Possession of any pictures of nude children is a felony.

It is.

My question had more to do with the scenario where some (say) 14 yo girl takes nude pics of herself and distributes them. Say some kid receives said pictures and reports the fact.

The question is: can you deal with the 14 yo girl in the same way you would if it were an adult who took/posted the pictures?

And if you have kids who receive the pics and did not report them -- would you prosecute them to the same level as if it were an adult in posession?

None of this is an attempt to excuse this sort of behavior -- which is symptomatic of cultural decay (abetted by technological advancement). It's more to point out the legal ambiguity of what's going on.

39 posted on 12/10/2008 11:47:53 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Pontiac

If you don’t want the camera, then take a nail to the lens and start scratching. Paint might be enough if they don’t try to scratch it off.


40 posted on 12/10/2008 11:48:18 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: lmr

In our town, Ridgefield CT, the high school is in a dead zone. Not sure if that’s by design or accident (well, the HS is not near the town center, so it probably was an accident at first, but now, I don’t think the town wants a cell tower in that area because of the High School).


41 posted on 12/10/2008 11:50:08 AM PST by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: mnehrling

One thing that everyone needs to remember about “poverty statistics” -

they never include gov’t benefits as “income”. So if you’re getting your housing, food, utilities, and child support paid, and then you have a 10k “job” on top of it for your spending money, you’re poor.


42 posted on 12/10/2008 11:50:10 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Fractal Trader

Nude pics of my kids in the bath tub or running around the house? I find that hard to believe.

That would make my grandparents and parents felons. That is too broad.


43 posted on 12/10/2008 11:50:20 AM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: r9etb
Well sure ... but apparently it's the kids themselves who are posting the pictures and videos. Can you call them "criminals" in the same sense as a NAMBLA mouth-breather?

There have been kids prosecuted for sending pictures of themselves out over the internet (despite what I think is a good argument that the laws were not meant to prosecute the actual, underage subject of such pictures).

Realistically, prosecutors aren't likely to go after the kids involved. There are plenty of real kiddie-porn producers that are higher on the list.

44 posted on 12/10/2008 11:50:55 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Alltel has an app online that allows parents to manage in detail text messaging or mobile web, blocking sites, sending or receiving or even allowing through specific senders, etc. Really great tool. This way you can filter it to allow text messages from yourself but block her friends.


45 posted on 12/10/2008 11:51:02 AM PST by mnehring
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To: RgnRepublic
This is why I don’t allow my daughter to have a cell phone with a camera in it.

It's her boyfriend you have to worry about.

46 posted on 12/10/2008 11:51:18 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: r9etb

In many states crimes by juveniles are adjuicated in juvenile or family court. If the child finishes the sentence, their file is purged and subsequently there is no conviction on record when they become adults. Also, the convictions of the juvenile court are often not considered felonies.


47 posted on 12/10/2008 11:52:42 AM PST by nufsed
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To: FourtySeven
I'm quite surprised that kids today would do this. I thought they were supposed to be "tech savvy".

They know how to use technology yes.

They are however still teenagers. Teenagers do not now and never have thought much about the consequences of their actions unless warned repeatedly and firmly by their parents.

These warnings by parents usually are most effective if previous warnings that went ignored were followed up by swift and sure punishment.

Too often today parents do not follow through on their warnings.

48 posted on 12/10/2008 11:53:14 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Citizen Blade
Realistically, prosecutors aren't likely to go after the kids involved. There are plenty of real kiddie-porn producers that are higher on the list.

And yet, there's a real need to prevent this stuff from becoming generally available, because there is a legitimate public interest in keeping it out of the hands of perverts. It's a tough nut to crack.

49 posted on 12/10/2008 11:55:27 AM PST by r9etb
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To: VRWCmember
You can't see some type of natural or person-made emergency that might necessitate the ability of your child to be able to contact you (or the authorities) by cell phone from school?

Post 9/11, I think pretty much every schoolkid should have a cell phone. Parents can disable a lot of the functions, if need be, but kids and parents being able to get in contact with one another in an emergency is crucial.

Schools should just require that cell phones be set to vibrate or silent during class time.

50 posted on 12/10/2008 11:55:44 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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