Teens' nude photos get unexpected results

Boston Globe ^ | 10 December 2008 | Irene Sege

[Hacklehead]

“A report being released today shows that these were not isolated incidents but part of a national trend.”

Slut-Nation

[Citizen Blade]

What I see is out of the millions of students that have passed throught American schools in the past, only this particular generation needs cell phones.

Well, people in the past didn't have cell phones, whether they needed them or not. Just because we made do without a specific technology in the past is not an argument against that technology.

Do you not think that parents and student have always had need to contact one another, and there is always a way?

When I was in high school back in the early 90's and my phone broke down on a road in rural Michigan, I had to walk a mile, at night in January, to get to a phone booth to call my parents and a tow truck. Given the choice of having my son or daughter do that or use a cell phone, I know which option I prefer.

Every classroom should be equipped with those cellphone jamming devices,

Jamming devices are illegal under Federal law.

cellphones - if allowed - should be left in students lockers, turned OFF.

Why, other than your personal preference?

[riverdawg]

At princess riverdawg’s (Catholic) high school, all cell phones are supposed to be turned off while the student is in the building or anywhere on school grounds between 8:00 am and afternoon dismissal, usually 3:15 pm. I assume if there was a Columbine-type situation, exceptions would be granted ...

[Travis T. OJustice]

One thing that everyone needs to remember about “poverty statistics” - they never include gov’t benefits as “income”. So if you’re getting your housing, food, utilities, and child support paid, and then you have a 10k “job” on top of it for your spending money, you’re poor.

Or child support. Child support is not considered income.

[JimRed]

Bet their mommies are proud of THEM!

[STONEWALLS]

“A couple of years ago I went and took the U.S.Postal Carriers exam, and we were told that if they heard a cell phone ring, that person would immediately be escorted out of the building and given an “F” on their test.”

.....if only white table cloth restaurants felt that way....also lecture classes...I really liked this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs6pxvFmrm8

[Citizen Blade]

At princess riverdawg’s (Catholic) high school, all cell phones are supposed to be turned off while the student is in the building or anywhere on school grounds between 8:00 am and afternoon dismissal, usually 3:15 pm.

I know lots of schools have the rule. I would tell my kids to ignore the rule and to keep their phones with them, set to either silent or vibrate. If I needed to reach them (or vice versa), that overrides such rule.

[Travis T. OJustice]

Not necessarily true. If you have viewed it,or even opened it, even if recieved erroneously, you could be prosecuted. Convicted? Not likely, but the prosecution process alone is very painful.

[DaveyB]

I say the schools need to have a strict no cell phone policy

Yes let's get children conditioned to giving up all responsibility, rights and liberty. Let them grow accustomed to the inability to call for help, communicate home etc. That way the schools will turn out even more institutionally dependent, government socialized workers in the peoples republic of Amerika!
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Better idea have a strict no public school policy and keep the socialist out of child raising!

[Citizen Blade]

Not necessarily true. If you have viewed it,or even opened it, even if recieved erroneously, you could be prosecuted.

You can be prosecuted for a lot of things, if there is a cowboy DA involved. It's actually not illegal to view child porn- if you walk into someone's house and they have child porn on their TV, you haven't comitted a crime. Knowingly producing, receiving or distributing child porn is illegal. Inadvertently or involuntarily seeing it is not.

[Pontiac]

Some parents still envision themselves as being 17 and want to be friends with their kids. Kids need stability, consistence, and reliable parents not more friends.

Very true.

Some parents are also afraid to be “mean”.

They are afraid their kids won’t like them.

Respect is much more important than being liked. Being liked can come later. If your kid doesn’t respect you they are never going to like you anyway.

[dmz]

Pete? Mr Townsend? Is that you?

[cynwoody]

This is why I don’t allow my daughter to have a cell phone with a camera in it.

I remember a story from long ago, when most phones had rotary dials, and none had cameras.

It was summer camp. The girls were at a class. So, the boys snuck into one of their tents and "borrowed" a Brownie Hawkeye belonging to one of the girls. Of course, there was no danger of the pix being flashed thru uninvented cyberspace. But this was even better, because the film had to be sent out to be developed ...

[Liberty Valance]

Technology has obviously outpaced the ability to ethically control it. That is the point where parental control/guidance is the last defense. JMO.

[JamesP81]

Maybe if they charged some of the kids who take the pictures (including those who take pictures of themselves) with production of child pornography charges, that would send a message that would stick?

As long as you're willing to pay taxes to keep these kids on welfare the rest of their lives, sounds great. Because that's where they're going to be when they have a charge on their record that prevents them from even so much as flipping hamburgers at Mickey D's.

[dan1123]

They can only receive “service messages”, i.e. text messages from AT&T itself.

I just got one of those "service messages". It was an ad to gift phone service to friends and relatives for Christmas. In fact, I think half of the "service messages" I have received are AT&T ads. I wonder when they'll start selling this revenue stream to other companies.

[Star Traveler]

Fractal Trader said — “Possession of any pictures of nude children is a felony. The fact that they are juveniles does not play any role in determining guilt, though it might affect the punishment.”

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You said in response — “Nude pics of my kids in the bath tub or running around the house? I find that hard to believe. That would make my grandparents and parents felons. That is too broad.”

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Yeah, it is not strictly so, as Fractal Trader said. If one takes pictures of, let’s say, a group picture of nudists (i.e., families together), in a closed setting — that sort of thing is not illegal. And, likewise, if the setting is such, in your home that it’s part of the family pictures and is not meant or designed to be sexual in nature, then it wouldn’t come under that kind of law.

I think some people in this area of the law have lost sight (sometimes) of normal situations, and they get paranoid about *anything* that resembles nudity — which is going overboard.

Having said that, I’m not a nudist... LOL... I would be too shy... :-)

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As a side note, I’ve heard in discussion of some professional photographers who have taken nude pictures of children for what is called “art” and have them published and one can buy them normally, without any problems. I don’t have one... :-), but as I said, that’s what I’ve read. I can’t remember any names of professional photographers, though.

[crghill]

Reason number 10,227 as to why we homeschool!

[Realism]

“If your kid doesn’t respect you they are never going to like you anyway.”

Yep, given the chance a teenager can seize control over a household and rule over the inhabitants with an iron fist. I've seen it happen to friends, and they have no idea where it all went wrong.

[riverdawg]

Back in the day, someone in the group always had a nerdy older brother or a semi-perverted neighbor who had a basement darkroom for developing such pictures ... or so I was told ...