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Store Owner Shoots Suspected Robbers
WSOCTV ^ | 6 December, 2008 | NA

Posted on 12/10/2008 5:36:58 PM PST by marktwain

CATAWBA COUNTY, N.C. -- The Catawba County Sheriff’s Office said a business owner shot and killed a suspected robber, and hurt another one.

Deputies said it happened at 3:15 a.m. Saturday. Randy Willis, owner of Willis Packaging on Highway 10, went to his store because the alarm was going off. When Willis got there, deputies said he saw a man coming out of his store with a shotgun.

Willis and the robber struggled, and deputies said Willis pulled out a pistol and shot the robber, killing him.

Deputies said another robber, 52-year-old Arnold Ray Jr., had broken into the store. Ray jumped Willis, and Willis shot him as well, this time in the shoulder.

Deputies said the two men had broken into the store through the front window. They also said a woman, Jean Holman, dropped the two men off. Holman is charged with breaking and entering and larceny.

The sheriff’s office said Ray was taken to the hospital. Authorities have not released the deceased man’s name. Authorities said Willis hurt several ribs during the altercations, but did not go to the hospital.

Ray is charged with breaking and entering, larceny, robbery and kidnapping.

Willis was not charged. Deputies said the case will be handed over to the district attorney.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ncarmedcitizen; northcarolina; robbery; store
Read the comments at the site. "Brittany" says that the robber who was killed was really a great guy. "Morgan" sums it up nicely, if he was such a great guy, why was he breaking in to a store at 3 am and then threatening to kill the owner?
1 posted on 12/10/2008 5:36:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good shootin.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 5:39:23 PM PST by bigbob
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To: marktwain

He won’t do it again.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 5:40:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: marktwain
If only 1% more robbers got shot and hopefully killed, I propose crime would go down 10% for each 1% in any given area.

Place your bets and load your guns.

4 posted on 12/10/2008 5:40:13 PM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger; bang_list

Sniff....I love a happy ending.


5 posted on 12/10/2008 5:41:06 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: marktwain

Let’s see, our hero Ray jumped a guy who was holding a gun? Dumb crooks file.


6 posted on 12/10/2008 5:42:19 PM PST by nufsed
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To: marktwain
"Brittany" says that the robber who was killed was really a great guy.

I agree with Brittany - a dead thug is the very best kind of crook. He's a much better guy now that he's dead instead of robbing innocent people, and given the contrast I'll go with her "great".

7 posted on 12/10/2008 5:45:53 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: nufsed

In the comments, it appears that the robbers had Randy Willis on his knees, with a shotgun to his head, when he acted, was able to divert the shotgun, draw his own gun, kill one and wound the other.

I would call him a regular hero, though I am sure he would not think of himself that way.

He went against the grain that the MSM and socialist teach. He thought about the situation, reached a nasty conclusion, and had the guts to do something about it, even though quite a bit of risk was involved. He was not a sheep.


8 posted on 12/10/2008 5:46:09 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
When Willis got there, deputies said he saw a man coming out of his store with a shotgun. Willis and the robber struggled, and deputies said Willis pulled out a pistol and shot the robber, killing him. Deputies said another robber, 52-year-old Arnold Ray Jr., had broken into the store. Ray jumped Willis, and Willis shot him as well

How can we get our language back?
9 posted on 12/10/2008 5:47:27 PM PST by caveat emptor ( De gustibus non est disputandum)
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To: marktwain

I thought it said the second guy jumped him. I defer to your detail.


10 posted on 12/10/2008 5:47:43 PM PST by nufsed
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To: marktwain

Good shooting by the story owner.
Bad guys/gal killed or in custody.

Another happy ending.


11 posted on 12/10/2008 5:50:34 PM PST by Cindy
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To: nufsed

“I thought it said the second guy jumped him. I defer to your detail.”


The story did say that, but after he struggled with and shot the robber that was killed.

The detail comes from the comments at the link. I cannot vouch for their veracity.


12 posted on 12/10/2008 5:59:46 PM PST by marktwain
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To: caveat emptor

Better: Store owner suspected of shooting two armed robbers who attacked him.


13 posted on 12/10/2008 6:00:04 PM PST by caveat emptor ( De gustibus non est disputandum)
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To: marktwain
Ray is charged with breaking and entering, larceny, robbery and kidnapping.

Did they forget 'felony murder', or does that just get charged in TV police dramas?

14 posted on 12/10/2008 6:02:41 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: marktwain

Then why would the guy jump him after he shot and killed the other? he should have run or assumed the begging position.


15 posted on 12/10/2008 6:03:38 PM PST by nufsed
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To: marktwain
They also said a woman, Jean Holman, dropped the two men off.

Maybe Britney was the woman driving the getaway car.

16 posted on 12/10/2008 6:09:14 PM PST by shiva
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To: nufsed
“Then why would the guy jump him after he shot and killed the other? he should have run or assumed the begging position.”

These situations often develop very rapidly, more complexly than newpaper accounts care to take the time to describe.

It sounded as though it went down like this:

Store owner sees suspicious activity at the store and investigates. He has a gun in his pocket but does not draw it. The robber with the shotgun gets the drop on him and orders him to his knees.

The other robber hearing the first call to him, comes to investigate. At this point the store owner, fearing he is to be executed, slaps aside the shotgun as he rises, struggling with the first robber. He manages to draw his pistol and shoot the robber he is struggling with, mortally wounding him. As this is going on, for perhaps two seconds, the second robber reaches the struggling pair as the first robber is shot. He is committed, so he continues the attack, but the store owner now has his pistol in his hand and is able to shoot and wound him and drive him off, in the next two seconds.

Total elapsed time from the decision to resist - maybe 4 seconds.

17 posted on 12/10/2008 6:12:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: caveat emptor
How can we get our language back?

Apparently that's just the way people who write television copy were taught to write in journalism school.

And if you think the story is good you should see the fine examples of English composition in the comments section. I thought California schools were bad.

18 posted on 12/10/2008 6:13:12 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: nufsed
I will give you another possibility as well. The store owner struggles with and shoots the first robber. He is then standing over him, fixated on the man who was just threatening to kill him, when the second robber comes on the scene and seeing him preoccupied, thinks he can take him, and jumps him, only to find that it wasn't as easy as he thought, and gets shot for his felonious efforts.
19 posted on 12/10/2008 6:19:56 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Thank you. I know how they develop. I can say there is no pattern that is discernible to me regarding this behavior.

I have read over 1,500 police reports of roberries and other shootings.

21 posted on 12/10/2008 6:23:32 PM PST by nufsed
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“I have read over 1,500 police reports of roberries and other shootings.”

Fascinating. You have discerned no trends? No predominance of alcohol or drug use by the criminals? No lack of education, jobs, or work ethic? No age differentiation?
22 posted on 12/10/2008 6:31:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You misread. I said as far as this type of behavior. You might want to re-read next time.


23 posted on 12/10/2008 6:33:24 PM PST by nufsed
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To: marktwain
No age differentiation?

The age of the surviving perp immediately got my attention.

52 years old and this guy is doing armed burglaries? Must be one of those career criminals with a very long record.

24 posted on 12/10/2008 6:35:42 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: marktwain

A “great guy”? Yeah - kind of reminds one of the common news footage of the aftermath of gang-bangers - and the poor old granma who gets on camera and cries about how he is “such a good boy”.... bleeeccchhhhhkkkk!!!!!!

Score 1.5 for the good guys.


25 posted on 12/10/2008 7:09:20 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: Travis McGee

Why is he called a suspected robber??????

Alarm sounding, store closed, man leaving closed store and man has shotgun in his hands.

I guess he was in the closed store to buy a candy bar.

He was just another common thief and paid the price for being a moron.


26 posted on 12/10/2008 7:41:15 PM PST by chiefqc
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