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California Set to Adopt Sweeping Global Warming Plan
NewsMax ^ | 12/11/08

Posted on 12/11/2008 7:42:36 AM PST by Sammy67

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And It's snowing in New Orleans today, what a way to destroy there economy further.
1 posted on 12/11/2008 7:42:38 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

that should do wonders for their economy.


2 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:05 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Sammy67

Great, just what we need, more freaking Californians packing up and heading to Texas.


3 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:08 AM PST by dblshot
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To: Sammy67

Real title should read: California to put another nail in the coffin of the state’s economy.


4 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:08 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Sammy67

Wow! Not one lawmaker in California understands how they have contributed to the mess they are in? It’s just unbelievable. Really.


5 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:29 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Sammy67

And down the drain we go..........the trickle has now become a river.


6 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:30 AM PST by EggsAckley (,)
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To: Sammy67

Sacramento as a requirement now that when you get elected and go there, you have to leave your brain at home.

This of course assumes a politician has a brain in the first place


7 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:50 AM PST by edcoil (Looking for a new tagline - do you have one I can use?)
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To: Sammy67

This is global insanity. Are we all going to drink the Al Gore’s Jonestown koolaid?


8 posted on 12/11/2008 7:44:54 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Army Air Corps

Aw shucks............you can’t blame them to much. They just like to spend money. The State never was good at looking at what is important. They will just use this to obtain more tax money.


9 posted on 12/11/2008 7:46:18 AM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certificate??????)
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To: Sammy67; Liz; calcowgirl
California Set to Adopt Sweeping Global Warming Plan

California is also set to go bankrupt, but I suppose that a realization of such a reality is beyond the mental capabilities of most of California's elected officials.

10 posted on 12/11/2008 7:46:34 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Norm,
is that “spare the air” thingie helping over there? My son is dying to have a fire in his fireplace, but they’ve got neighbors spying on neighbors.

Arrrggg.


11 posted on 12/11/2008 7:48:56 AM PST by EggsAckley (,)
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To: Sammy67
I wish California would secede from the rest of the USA.

It is so foreign it deserves to be it's own country.

12 posted on 12/11/2008 7:50:39 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: austinaero
Wow! Not one lawmaker in California understands how they have contributed to the mess they are in?

Oh, they understand - they just can't afford to be honest with their voters. They'll keep blaming Republicans/racists/homophobes/polluters/Big Oil until there is no one left to blame.

Arnold's trouble has been that he doesn't understand that his job is to be the clear voice that focuses public criticism and anger upon the inept and corrupt state legislature. He doesn't want to do that because his career in Hollywood has trained him to try to please everybody. Star power isn't enough if you aren't willing to crack some heads when necessary, as Ronald Reagan used to do. Arnold's nice-guy routine has ultimately made him a bigger failure than Gray Davis.

13 posted on 12/11/2008 7:51:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: austinaero

They’ll blame the collapse on a failure of uncontrolled capitalism.


14 posted on 12/11/2008 7:51:53 AM PST by DManA
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To: dblshot; Allegra
"Great, just what we need, more freaking Californians packing up and heading to Texas."

Dear Californian looking to move,
Texas is a hot hell hole filled with bitter clingers holding on to their guns while driving wildly on highways, shooting up the place. There are 10 to 20 gun fights a day for every square mile in Texas. There are 10 bibles for every citizen here (required). Tofu is illegal here in Texas. Butt-%$#ing at bus stops are also illegal.

The only reason I live here is that it is a penance for all of my past sins.

Please, do yourself a favor and DON'T move to Texas.

15 posted on 12/11/2008 7:54:08 AM PST by lormand
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To: Sammy67

“Sweeping” is right - all the remaining businesses in Kal-ee-for-nee-a will be “swept” out.


16 posted on 12/11/2008 7:54:58 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DManA

CA is also having a cold snap. Could be a 50 year low coming up.
The stark reality is,,even with a tax increase and budget cuts the state will go broke. People won’t pay more taxes.
If they raise the tax on auto registration people will stop buying new cars. When the tax was high before people took great pride in their 10 year old cars with little annual registration fee. More tradesmen will work for cash and even Professionals will do it more. Realestate will fall even more as taxpayers move out and the death spiral will continue.


17 posted on 12/11/2008 7:55:49 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I think it’s time for you to move...


18 posted on 12/11/2008 7:56:12 AM PST by sauropod (An expression of deep worry and concern failed to cross either of Zaphod's faces - hitchhiker's guid)
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To: Sammy67
The depressed state of Kalifornia has finally decided to put the gun in it's mouth. This should finish off the Libtard bastion once and for all. The inevitable outcome of Marxism in all of it's guises.
19 posted on 12/11/2008 7:57:47 AM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: DManA

They’ll blame the collapse on a failure of uncontrolled capitalism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

They actually will! That is possibly the worst part, it is Ayn Rand’s worst nightmare coming true. As the nation slides into hell on Earth caused by insane, anti-fredom, anti-capitalist, collectivist policies the people who caused all this will blame it on “free market capitalism”, something which has not actually existed in this country for...I leave it to someone more knowledgeable to say but it has been a long, long time.


20 posted on 12/11/2008 7:59:30 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: Oldexpat

How is the pot industry in California doing I wonder? Probably the last sector to get hit.


21 posted on 12/11/2008 7:59:43 AM PST by lormand
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To: Sammy67

I hope Charlie Crist doesn’t hear this.


22 posted on 12/11/2008 8:01:23 AM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: Sammy67; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


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California Set to Adopt Sweeping Stupidity Initiative..
23 posted on 12/11/2008 8:01:57 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Sammy67
Okay, let's do the math...

In Kuleeefornya , you can't have -

guns
cars
fireplaces
bbq pits
guilty verdicts
electricity

what else?

24 posted on 12/11/2008 8:02:24 AM PST by red-dawg (Bend over for CHANGE.)
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To: Sammy67

Something about putting down the shovel when you’ve dug yourself too deep a hole.

I have family in CA. I wish they’d move here to the USA.


25 posted on 12/11/2008 8:03:03 AM PST by ScottinVA (islam IS the problem!)
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To: red-dawg

Legal Residents


26 posted on 12/11/2008 8:03:50 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: red-dawg

What else? Police are not allowed to intervene in Black or Latino riots.


27 posted on 12/11/2008 8:04:34 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sammy67
But think of all the jobs this will create in CA. Lawyers are going to be needed to represent these polluters as they plea for help, go through bankruptcy, legal challenges.

Eventually there will be construction jobs that will be saved when the polluters buildings need to be demolished.

More movers and truck drivers will be needed to evacuate the employees and businesses from the state of CA.

There may even me a need for more guards and police officers as civil unrest rises.

You have to look at the bright side of things in CA.

28 posted on 12/11/2008 8:04:59 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Desron13
I never underestimate the ignorance of a liberal.

Most marxists believe that it only takes the right leader to make it work...so they keep up "hope" for one to come along. Ed Asner has said just a thing. 100 years of failure means nothing to these morons.

29 posted on 12/11/2008 8:05:40 AM PST by lormand
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To: Sammy67

Watch businesses and their jobs flee California when these laws go into effect. Gov. Arnold must be in some competition with the Governor of Michigan to see who can screw up their state the most.


30 posted on 12/11/2008 8:06:03 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: RipSawyer

I know. I was not being sarcastic, hyperbolic, or funny. It is exactly how they (the government/media complex) will explain it.


31 posted on 12/11/2008 8:06:46 AM PST by DManA
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To: Cicero

Maybe I should have included “sanity”.


32 posted on 12/11/2008 8:07:33 AM PST by red-dawg (Bend over for CHANGE.)
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To: Sammy67

I guess they really are insane in California. The Earth is getting colder and California is worried about global warming. Well just wait until California gets hit with the air mass sitting at minue 81 degrees in Sibera, maybe that will get there attention and wake them up. PS any Sun spots yet?


33 posted on 12/11/2008 8:07:50 AM PST by jpsb
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To: DManA

Actually, in the great Randian style I should have said

I know it.


34 posted on 12/11/2008 8:07:52 AM PST by DManA
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To: Sammy67

Solar flares are decreasing.
We are entering a 15 year cooling period.


35 posted on 12/11/2008 8:08:02 AM PST by griswold3
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To: Sammy67

Just by the sheer size of the natural generation of carbon dioxide from ongoing life processes, whatever feeble little amount that man produces shrivels to total insignificance.

Despite rulings to the contrary, carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, and attempts to picture the substance as being so, are either displaying willful ignorance, or knowingly propagating a falsehood. Carbon dioxide is so bound up in our very life processes, it cannot ever be disentangled. We are a carbon-based life form, for cat’s sake, and plants NEED carbon dioxide to even exist.

Water vapor is from some twenty to over 100 times as potent a “greenhouse gas” as carbon dioxide could ever be. And it would be totally pointless to regulate water vapor.

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Air Composition
The sea-level composition of air (in percent by volume at the temperature of 15°C and the pressure of 101325 Pa) is given below.

Name- Symbol- Percent by Volume
Nitrogen- N2- 78.084 %
Oxygen- O2- 20.9476 %
Argon- Ar- 0.934 %
Carbon Dioxide- CO2- 0.0314 %
Neon- Ne- 0.001818 %
Methane- CH4- 0.0002 %
Helium- He- 0.000524 %
Krypton- Kr- 0.000114 %
Hydrogen- H2- 0.00005 %
Xenon- Xe- 0.0000087 %

Water vapor is a highly variable component of the atmosphere, ranging from less than 1% to more than 4% of the volume of a given amount of air, and is expressed as “relative humidity”.
Source:
CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
by David R. Lide, Editor-in-Chief

1997 Edition


36 posted on 12/11/2008 8:09:38 AM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!")
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To: griswold3

“Solar flares are decreasing. We are entering a 15 year cooling period.”

And, when the cooling commences, watch the envirowhackos claim credit.


37 posted on 12/11/2008 8:10:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (islam IS the problem!)
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To: lormand
Please, do yourself a favor and DON'T move to Texas.

Heh,heh. Born in New Mexico, raised in Texas and Arizona. I like 'em all just fine, thank you very much. But I tell all my California Liberal friends who want to move to consider Chile and Argentina instead ;)

38 posted on 12/11/2008 8:11:10 AM PST by no-s
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To: The Great RJ
Arnold must be in some competition with the Governor of Michigan to see who can screw up their state the most.

Indiana has one of the strongest economies in our area right now. I believe, besides a good governor, we have to thank Michigan and Illinois. We have had several large companies move to IN in the past few years.

39 posted on 12/11/2008 8:12:35 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Sammy67
California's utilities, refineries and large factories must transform their operations to cut greenhouse gas emissions as part of a new climate plan before state regulators.

And they'll close their doors. Really smart plan when the state is already bankrupt.
40 posted on 12/11/2008 8:15:33 AM PST by CottonBall
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On Thursday, the California Air Resources Board was expected to adopt what would be the nation's most sweeping global warming plan, ... It would hold California's worst polluters accountable
The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves. Just who the 'heck' ELECTED this .. *California Air Resources Board*? Answer - NO ONE! Yet it alone, and the faceless bureaucrats who run it "will hold" all of California captive to their whims and edicts from on high, or on low.

This just doesn't pertain to California, but the entire USA. When some unelected bureaucrat working in the basement of some gubmint building can run things we are no longer the USA, but the USSR.

And yes I know, we're already down that road with the EPA, Dept of Ed etc. But it has to end somewhere and soon.

41 posted on 12/11/2008 8:15:58 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: dblshot
Darn straight. I just moved from California to Texas a year ago. Now that I've made it, Katie bar the door!
42 posted on 12/11/2008 8:18:10 AM PST by ThePythonicCow ( Mooo !!)
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To: Sammy67

Why should there be a bailout of California while they are acting so fiscally irresponsible AFTER they know what a mess they have dug themselves into? I say let them pay for it themselves. No bailout for California, or any state for that matter.


43 posted on 12/11/2008 8:21:25 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Sammy67

Coming soon to the State you live in...the air will clear, the oceans recede and the bills will get paid as soon as the One is our ruler uber all!


44 posted on 12/11/2008 8:22:20 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Sammy67
And It's snowing in New Orleans today

Algore is a shyster

45 posted on 12/11/2008 8:23:50 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (LIBERAL MEDIA PICKS GOP CANDIDATE STORY AT 11:00!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
There is a good Google Video on money and debt at Money As Debt.

The blurb with the video describes it thusly:

Paul Grignon's 47-minute animated presentation of "Money as Debt" tells in very simple and effective graphic terms what money is and how it is being created. It is an entertaining way to get the message out. The Cowichan Citizens Coalition and its "Duncan Initiative" received high praise from those who previewed it. I recommend it as a painless but hard-hitting educational tool and encourage the widest distribution and use by all groups concerned with the present unsustainable monetary system in Canada and the United States

46 posted on 12/11/2008 8:28:22 AM PST by ThePythonicCow ( Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Oops — my post just above was on the wrong thread — sorry.


47 posted on 12/11/2008 8:29:24 AM PST by ThePythonicCow ( Mooo !!)
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To: dblshot
Great, just what we need, more freaking Californians packing up and heading to Texas.

Hey, not all of us trapped in Mexifornia are libs! I'd love to move back to the good ol' U.S. ASAP.

Actually, we did move to Corpus a few years ago for a short time. But our property taxes there were criminal - triple what we paid in CA and more than covered the CA state income tax. And the sheer volume of illegals....no better than in Mexifornia. And no good scenery to make up for it all either.

What areas of Texas are better?
48 posted on 12/11/2008 8:29:44 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: Sammy67

I’m on a conference call with a range of sites in the U.S., including some gulf coast locations.

It must be snowing across the entire gulf coast. Reports are 2” of snow and frozen bridges in Houston TX also snow on the ground in LaPlace LA. (The gentleman from LaPlace was on his way to help his daughter who’d just called - she was in a ditch, having skidded off the road.)

Meanwhile, the sun continues to be virtually blank (one tiny little sunspot). The evidence AGAINST a coming human-induced global warming crisis is overwhelming. Apparently, however, facts don’t seem to matter.

When do the adults show up apply some common sense?
We have lots of politicians but few, if any, statesmen left...


49 posted on 12/11/2008 8:33:57 AM PST by cheee (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for 'bad hunter'...)
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To: Desron13
The inevitable outcome of Marxism in all of it's guises.

Actually, this proposal is out-and-out FASCISM. Marxism would involve the state taking the utilities over and running them directly into the ground.

When cowardly politicians try that they usually shy of actually being in a position where they could be blamed for any outcomes, so they stop at the safest waystation along the way: Fascism, where they can tell the utility bosses what to do and then blame them when it all goes to disaster.

Isn't politics fun?

50 posted on 12/11/2008 8:34:02 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (Sarah has That Vision Thing)
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