Skip to comments.California Set to Adopt Sweeping Global Warming Plan
Posted on 12/11/2008 7:42:36 AM PST by Sammy67
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Well put. Here’s a similar set of numbers that I put together on another posting. The idea is to put the numbers in a context that ANYONE can grasp the insignificance of the CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere...
One of the biggest problems we deniers face is that few real facts are ever given by the AGW crowd. This is intentional, of course. For instance, they throw around labels like green and clean but never define them. It can be demonstrated that the atmosphere is cleaner today that it has been in decades (in the U.S.), if not centuries (parts of Europe). How can something like CO2, necessary for life itself, be labeled dirty? It boggles the mind.
Ive come up with (what I think is) a simple, understandable-by-anyone concept to explain why folks should stop being afraid of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere.
Heres the line of thinking:
What are the molecules that compose air? Name them in order of most-to-least abundant. [By the way, few folks will get any of this right without looking it up.]
Nitrogen, Oxygen, Water, Argon, Carbon Dioxide, and Other.
If you take a random (or average) sampling of 10,000 molecules of air and assume that each molecule is worth a penny, approximately how much would each of the different components of the air be worth?
(Note: 10,000 pennies is the same as $100.00. If you couch the discussion in dollars and cents rather than, say, PPM - folks will have an easier time grasping the numbers. Even a second grader understands completely the difference between a $20. bill and 4 pennies.)
Oxygen: $20.00 (animals NEED this to live)
Water: $ 2.00 (this is the real GHG)
Argon: $ 0.95 (thats right, 25x the amount of CO2)
CO2: 4 cents (plants NEED this to live)
Other: 1 penny
As youve heard, Humans have pumped MASSIVE amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, yet it only makes up 4 cents of the entire $100.00 of the atmosphere. (Thats 4 CO2 molecules per 10,000 air molecules). How much of these 4 cents worth of CO2 has been added by Humans?
1 penny. (280ppm to 380ppm)
Lets say that Humans had subtracted a pennys worth of CO2 from the $100.00 worth of our entire atmosphere, instead of adding CO2. What would be the impact?
Plants would be severly impacted and dying.
There are many more points that can be made. For instance, if we continue to pump out CO2, we can probably only push the concentration of CO2 to about 5-6 cents worth. Also, the threshold level of CO2 above which the MSDS suggests CO2 becomes a problem for workers is 50 cents worth (5000ppm) - more than 10x the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Anyhow, you get the idea.
Feel free to steal the concept, if you find it useful...
Like they say, “Timing is everything.” It’s supposed to snow in Southern California this coming week. If they weren’t just so darned cute, it would be easier to put them up for adoption or in a home where they couldn’t hurt themselves or anyone else.
Spare the airheads.. I was all set to fire up yesterday and said, I better check. Damn.. My m-i-l and cat and dog are not happy with this crap... nothing like a nice fire to curl the whickers and warm the old bones.
my immediate neighbors burn too, so.. we’ll see..
I would be having a major amount of trouble handling the situation you’re in. It’s really getting scary. And now I hear they’re including Santa Cruz County in their announcements.
Hope is changes for you soon.
“What areas of Texas are better?”
Depends on what you do for a living. I’m in oil and gas so Houston is home base for me. As for property taxes, the initial cost and valuation is so much lower than California that the total cost of owning a house is lower and we don’t have an income tax (yet). I retired from the Coast Guard in Galveston and have been employed in Houston ever since. Texas is 5 distinct geographical regions, gulf coast, piney woods, hill country, west texas (Desert), and the panhandle. California is 3, so you get to pick what you want if you are retired. As for illegals, North Carolina and other non border states have just as much problems, at least in Tejas, we all get along.
The coming rainy weather will let folks burn a lot.. it is looking to be colder than heck too ,, soooo... I have a fresh load of red oak to test burn.. hate to have it just sit there and rot away. like our forests ;-)
Well, if you’re ever desperate for some dry oak, don’t forget about me. I’ve got lots........like 70 cords. I would never want to hear that you’re cold for lack of dry wood.
I’m pleased that they are the guinea pigs of Amereica. This will end any speculation as to the cost of “green” when BamBam is bailing their sorry asses out of total financial crises.
I know what you are saying. I am among those who fled California. What you cite is only one of the myriad reasons why.
I really saddens me to think of all the good people I know back where there. But they seem happy, so who am I to say otherwise?
The new plan is not just carbon credits, but also a heavy carbon tax which goes directly into the pockets of the government. You can’t trade your way out of the taxes.