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Prehistoric bronze hoard found off Greek beach (largest of its kind ever found in Greece)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/11/08 | AP

Posted on 12/11/2008 9:45:42 AM PST by NormsRevenge

ATHENS, Greece – Authorities say a hoard of 4,500-year-old copper weapons recovered off a northern beach is the largest of its kind ever found in Greece.

A Culture Ministry statement says the discovery includes at least 110 ax and hammer heads, but several more should be extracted from compacted masses of corroded metal.

The ministry says they were probably buried at a time of unrest or war. The hoard would have represented a fortune at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bronze; found; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; greece; hideyourweapons; hoard; preguns; prehistoric

1 posted on 12/11/2008 9:45:42 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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a bunch of news articles here from yahoo search, keywords 'copper weapons greece'
2 posted on 12/11/2008 9:49:21 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: NormsRevenge

The ministry says they were probably buried at a time of unrest or war. The hoard would have represented a fortune at the time.

I wonder if Obama has any Greek ancestors...hmmmm


3 posted on 12/11/2008 9:50:29 AM PST by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: NormsRevenge



We finally found those weapons of mass destruction!




4 posted on 12/11/2008 9:51:59 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bronze bodies on the beach? What’s unusual about that?


5 posted on 12/11/2008 9:54:21 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: NormsRevenge

This sounds like a crack heads dream...


6 posted on 12/11/2008 9:54:37 AM PST by shotgun
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To: NormsRevenge

Don’t you just hate it when you bury your weapons cache and then forget where you put it?


7 posted on 12/11/2008 9:54:38 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: NormsRevenge
I offer these statements to the scientists:

"This just goes to show that the populace was arming themselves for a massive conflict. They were not happy with Alexander the Great and these weapons were possibly to be used in an assault on the government. These Axe heads could have changed history and the entire direction cultures throughout the world. It is a significant find as the fate of history could have turned on this weapon cache. Significant funding is required for further analysis."

I hope that helps in some way ...

8 posted on 12/11/2008 9:56:16 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: TexGuy

Yeah ... I see your point ... the check’s in the mail.


9 posted on 12/11/2008 9:58:18 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: TexGuy

But how did they know Alexander would show up 2000 years later?


10 posted on 12/11/2008 10:00:16 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SunkenCiv

bronze hoard found Ping


11 posted on 12/11/2008 10:00:49 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: NormsRevenge

No PVC pipe in the Bronze Age?


12 posted on 12/11/2008 10:12:17 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
But how did they know Alexander would show up 2000 years later?

Details, details ...

13 posted on 12/11/2008 10:21:57 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The ministry says they were probably buried at a time of unrest or war. The hoard would have represented a fortune at the time."

Probably found while someone was burying their own valuables due to the unrest going on there now.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

14 posted on 12/11/2008 10:36:11 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


15 posted on 12/11/2008 11:26:00 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: NormsRevenge
Said to be 500 miles from Athens in northern Greece...a village named Mesi is mentioned. I'm not sure where that is--there is a village of that name on the island of Naxos but that's not really northern Greece and not far enough away from Athens.

Anyway, 4500 years ago is before anyone speaking anything resembling Greek was in Greece. It would be the so-called Early Helladic Period--the Greek-speakers are thought to have invaded Greece about the end of that period (somewhere in the vicinity of 2000 B.C.). Depending on where Mesi is, it could be an area which didn't have a Greek-speaking population until later (first millennium B.C.).

16 posted on 12/11/2008 12:16:31 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: NormsRevenge
The ministry says they were probably buried at a time of unrest or war...

Actually most cultures don't bury their weapons in times of unrest or war. It's possible that what they have is the remains of someone's peace ceremony - burying the hatchet.

17 posted on 12/11/2008 1:17:21 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I think “mesi” is the root for “middle” or “center”. If that’s the case there might be several of them scattered around Greece. I seem to remember reading something in Herodotus where he’s bad mouthing Thracians and mentions Mesi.


18 posted on 12/11/2008 1:28:34 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

“Burying the Hatchet” was my first though as I read the article. I was taken surprised at the idea that someone would bury their weapons during war and then lose them.


19 posted on 12/11/2008 1:37:19 PM PST by Flying Circus
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20 posted on 12/11/2008 2:12:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Yes, there is an ancient Greek word "mesos" ("mese" in the feminine form) meaning "middle" (as in Mesopotamia, etc.)...the villages with the name were probably perceived as being in the middle (there's one on Tenos that's kind of in the middle of the island).

Herodotus mentions Mysoi, the inhabitants of Mysia, an area in N.W. Asia Minor. Later on there's a group called the Moisoi or Moesi in the Balkans (in modern northern Bulgaria and eastern Serbia), who gave their name to the Roman province of Moesia, but the first mentions of them seem to be later.

21 posted on 12/11/2008 2:54:21 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: NormsRevenge

The wily invading Tribes said, “hey guys, lets bury the hatxhhet and have a feast together.”

They didn[t know they WERE the feast. (lots of cannibalism in our hidden past)


22 posted on 12/11/2008 8:14:38 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Verginius Rufus
"a village named Mesi is mentioned. I'm not sure where that is--there is a village of that name on the island of Naxos but that's not really northern Greece and not far enough away from Athens."

Mesi is a villiage located in the Nomos Imathia in Northern Greece:

Here's a picture of the weapons:

23 posted on 12/12/2008 8:44:23 PM PST by apro
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To: apro

Thanks. I don’t think that is 500 miles from Athens. Imathia is ancient Emathia (the first vowel is an eta, accent on the “thi”). It looks like it is near the Haliacmon (Aliakmon) River in southern Macedonia (that’s the river visible on the map as flowing towards Mesi from the direction of 7 o’clock), maybe not far from Beroea.


24 posted on 12/13/2008 7:37:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: stefanbatory

>>The ministry says they were probably buried at a time of unrest or war.

Considering all the riots in Athens recently, they could have been buried last week.


25 posted on 12/13/2008 7:50:58 AM PST by Betis70
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Perhaps it was the first “ weapon buyback” program. For each sword, axe or spear, you get x amount of grain or some other commodity.


26 posted on 12/13/2008 8:00:50 AM PST by csvset
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