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Amish Community Immune to Heart Disease, May Lead to Preventative Drugs
FOXNews.com ^ | Friday, December 12, 2008 | Reuters

Posted on 12/12/2008 1:18:15 PM PST by metmom

WASHINGTON — A rare genetic abnormality found in people in an insular Amish community protects them from heart disease, a discovery that could lead to new drugs to prevent heart ailments, U.S. researchers said on Thursday.

About 5 percent of Old Order Amish people in Pennsylvania's Lancaster County have only one working copy rather than the normal two of a gene that makes a protein that slows the breakdown of triglycerides, a type of fat that circulates in the blood, the researchers wrote in the journal Science.

"People who have the mutation all have low triglycerides," said Toni Pollin of the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore, who led the study.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: amish; cholesterol; heart; triglycerides
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Triglycerides can be lowered by cutting out carbs in the diet as well for those of us not fortunate enough to have good genes.
1 posted on 12/12/2008 1:18:15 PM PST by metmom
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To: neverdem

ping


2 posted on 12/12/2008 1:18:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

No cure like manual work and not sitting on your ass watching TV.


3 posted on 12/12/2008 1:19:42 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: BGHater

TV? What’s a TV?

There’s a clue.....


4 posted on 12/12/2008 1:23:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BGHater

I read of a study that had been done about the incidence of Type II Diabetes in the Amish communities and the one comment that stuck out was that the author said that you NEVER find a fat Amish child, ever.


5 posted on 12/12/2008 1:24:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I would also wonder if the induction of GH into the food chain to increase production has an effect.
6 posted on 12/12/2008 1:26:53 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: metmom

And they don’t “retire.” They work until they die.


7 posted on 12/12/2008 1:27:00 PM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: BGHater

GH?


8 posted on 12/12/2008 1:27:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BGHater

ROFLTMTO,,,you are right on, and the fact they raise and can their own food WITHOUT PRESERVATIVES and CHEMICALS. Gene my rear end. It’s the lifestyle. My grandparents and great grandparents did the same thing, and honored their parents too, as the Amish do and most lived to be almost a 100 back then when diseases were not easily treated. sheesh.

ALSO, the Bible says “honor thy father and mother that thy days may be long upon the earth”....
IT DOES NOT SAY “watch your triglycerides and cholestrol and you will live long.”..


9 posted on 12/12/2008 1:28:33 PM PST by Kackikat (.It's NOT over until it's over and it's NOT over yet....The Trumpet will sound....)
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To: metmom

Growth Hormones.


10 posted on 12/12/2008 1:28:36 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: metmom
From Action! staring Jay Mohr, Buddy Hackett...

Peter (Jay) is negotiating with the "Blood and Pi** Guy" to get drug-free blood and urine for a drug-addled actor he has just taken out of a Rehab center to star in his movie...

BAPG: "Don't worry. Your boy's gonna get the cleanest blood you can get."
Peter: "Wha-... what kind of blood is that?"
BAPG: "Amish."
Peter: "Amish? How do you get Amish blood?"
BAPG (coldly): "Traps."

11 posted on 12/12/2008 1:28:44 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: metmom
Amish Paradise courtesy of Weird Al.

It's friday, have some silly fun.

12 posted on 12/12/2008 1:28:58 PM PST by Loud Mime (Democrats: The most corrupt party in US history. Coming soon: Oath Fraud)
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To: metmom
"A few years after I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small Texas town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was quickly accepted and was around from then on.

As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind, he had a special niche. My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me good from evil, and Dad taught me to obey. But the stranger...he was our storyteller. He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with Adventures, mysteries and comedies.

If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he always knew the answers about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future! He took my family to the first major league ball game. He made me laugh, and he made me cry. The stranger never stopped Talking, but Dad didn't seem to mind.

Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to the kitchen for peace and quiet. (I wonder now if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)

Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home... Not from us, our friends or any visitors. Our longtime visitor, however, got away with four-letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush. My Dad didn't permit the liberal use of alcohol. But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular Basis. He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished.

He talked freely (much too freely!) about sex. His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.

I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger. Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked... And NEVER asked to leave.

More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you could walk into my parents' den today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.

His name?.... .. .

We just call him 'TV.' "

13 posted on 12/12/2008 1:30:55 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BGHater
Amen to what you said.

And of that manual labor probably includes growing their own vegetables and meat and dairy.

Aren't they pretty much a self sustaining community? If so, their lifestyle has to be a HUGE factor.

Nothing better than home-cooked veggies, home grown meat or poultry, eggs and milk, butter, cheese, bread. No damn additives too. But damn hard and rewarding work.

14 posted on 12/12/2008 1:32:20 PM PST by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: BGHater

Gotcha....

Well, my triglycerides are really low (62) and my HDL is high, but my LDL calculates high as well. So my dr wants me on statins even though ALL my other risk factors put me in the normal to negative risk factor category.

I’d rather not, really. I’ve looked into it some but still need to see if it’s worth the risk of going on statins.


15 posted on 12/12/2008 1:32:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
the author said that you NEVER find a fat Amish child, ever.

I was in an Amish market not too long ago near Lancaster. I've seen a few heavy girls, but you are right for the most part.

I bought a homemade blueberry pie and a shoo-fly pie. I'm the one getting fat...

16 posted on 12/12/2008 1:35:42 PM PST by Post5203 (Blago,Resko,Pelosi,Reid,Mahoney,Edwards,Spitzer,McGreevy,Kilpatrick. dems are a criminal enterprise)
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To: metmom

thanks, bfl


17 posted on 12/12/2008 1:40:53 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: metmom

What’s your Triglyceride/HDL ratio? It should be <5. I have had the VAP test ( a newer type cholesterol check that tests a bit more....and I have “Pattern B, small dense LDL - which is NOT good....but, I have great HDL and total cholesterol....I’d get a 2nd opinion before I took statins...JMHO.


18 posted on 12/12/2008 1:41:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (CAPITALISM is FUN.........SOCIALISM SUCKS - pass it on.)
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To: All

Couldn’t believe Fox messed up a word in their title but then realized they were forwarding a Reuters essay:

American is: Preventive

British is: PrevenTAtive


19 posted on 12/12/2008 1:44:27 PM PST by imintrouble
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To: goodnesswins

Triglyceride/HDL = .95

Less than one....


20 posted on 12/12/2008 1:48:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem

FYI


21 posted on 12/12/2008 1:48:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with a passion for evil.)
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To: metmom
Gotcha....

Well, my triglycerides are really low (62) and my HDL is high, but my LDL calculates high as well. So my dr wants me on statins even though ALL my other risk factors put me in the normal to negative risk factor category.

I’d rather not, really. I’ve looked into it some but still need to see if it’s worth the risk of going on statins.

I dont understand anything you just said there but I do know one thing. Cholesterol tastes good.

22 posted on 12/12/2008 1:48:34 PM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks for that info. I will certainly look into it further.

In googling high HDL, high LDL, and low triglycerides, I saw mention of the LDLa and LDLb.

The articles I found indicated that LDLa is the harmless kind associated with high HDL and low triglycerides.

If that’s the case, I see no need to go on statins.


23 posted on 12/12/2008 1:50:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BGHater

I believe that is the key. Plowing the south 40 is more helpful for your heart than denying yourself carbohydrates. Besides the Amish eat a lot of carbs.


24 posted on 12/12/2008 1:50:47 PM PST by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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To: metmom

They start working on the farms at an early age and walk to school or use scooters

I bike (pedal type )in Lancaster county Amish country about 15-20 times a year since 1985

I have NEVER seen a FAT Amish kid


25 posted on 12/12/2008 1:52:21 PM PST by uncbob
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To: metmom

It is the HDL/TRI ratio that is critical NOT LDLs

Since yours is good stay AWAY from the statins

My wife has longevity in her family —She is now 73 her LDLS are high but her HDLs and TRIs are great

Doc tried to get her to go on statins over 10 years ago

She told him NO WAY


26 posted on 12/12/2008 1:56:10 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Lobbyist
I believe that is the key. Plowing the south 40 is more helpful for your heart than denying yourself carbohydrates. Besides the Amish eat a lot of carbs.

It's the hats. Those cool hats. And the hot chicks.


27 posted on 12/12/2008 1:56:21 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: Lobbyist
Besides the Amish eat a lot of carbs.

And sell a lot of bakery pastries at their stands --so I assume they eat them
28 posted on 12/12/2008 1:57:42 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Post5203

“I bought a homemade blueberry pie and a shoo-fly pie.”

STOP IT !! I am an insulin dependent diabetic and you’re driving me crazy!!


29 posted on 12/12/2008 2:01:27 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: metmom

When God wants to call you home, He will. No matter what you eat or don’t eat, no matter how much you exercise or don’t, no matter what your genes say.


30 posted on 12/12/2008 2:04:32 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: metmom

Eating olive oil is guaranteed to make you live longer.


31 posted on 12/12/2008 2:07:05 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("A laurel, and hearty handshake ....")
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To: metmom
A Null Mutation in Human APOC3 Confers a Favorable Plasma Lipid Profile and Apparent Cardioprotection
32 posted on 12/12/2008 2:07:10 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Post5203

I bought a homemade blueberry pie and a shoo-fly pie. I’m the one getting fat...

Oh Man love that Shoo-FLy Pie have to get back up to PA again soon.


33 posted on 12/12/2008 2:07:58 PM PST by bikerman
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To: Post5203

I bought a homemade blueberry pie and a shoo-fly pie. I’m the one getting fat...

Oh Man love that Shoo-FLy Pie have to get back up to PA again soon.


34 posted on 12/12/2008 2:09:51 PM PST by bikerman
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To: metmom

Two centuries of intermarrying with close-ish relatives.


35 posted on 12/12/2008 2:11:42 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: TonyStark

"You mean that plowing hot chicks would be good for muh heart? I need to move my office to Amish country..."

36 posted on 12/12/2008 2:17:04 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you. Comment# 32 has a link to the a link to the abstract.


37 posted on 12/12/2008 2:18:50 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: metmom
Yes we all may be driving horse and buggy's before this is over.
38 posted on 12/12/2008 2:20:14 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: metmom
Intake of 1000mg of Fish Oil supplement (EPA and DHA) per day can do it, too. I lowered mine to 60.
39 posted on 12/12/2008 2:20:27 PM PST by CholeraJoe (In memory of Roland Tembo, Norway's bravest son.)
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To: metmom

The title of this is a joke; they don’t use drugs; that’s the reason for their health.


40 posted on 12/12/2008 2:22:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: uncbob

My grandmother lived to be 95 or so. She was overweight and I can only imagine what her cholesterol readings were.

I don’t think that my insurance will cover a consultation with the dr to just discuss the topic but I certainly will look into this other test the other FReeper mentioned next time I’m in for a cold or stitches on a sliced up finger :)


41 posted on 12/12/2008 2:24:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gator113

*sigh*. I have food allergy issues and some other food reactions, and can’t eat most any fruits or vegetables.

I hear you.


42 posted on 12/12/2008 2:26:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

My ratio (LDL/Tot Chol) is really low too....but, I still have the small pattern B LDL...I think you might want to look into VLDL .....hope that helps.....I was told to keep exercising....and drinking red wine and eating chocolate....LOL....evidently they are good for LDL


43 posted on 12/12/2008 2:27:44 PM PST by goodnesswins (CAPITALISM is FUN.........SOCIALISM SUCKS - pass it on.)
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To: metmom
Mandatory "Amish Paradise" Link.
44 posted on 12/12/2008 2:28:12 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CholeraJoe

I tried fish oil and didn’t feel good when I took it. I tried Evening Primrose Oil and think I reacted to it but it could have been something else.

At this point, I’m wary of taking anything out of the ordinary for me. I’ve yet to figure out what my reactions are, if they are indeed allergic. If they’re not, I have no clue and the doctors have not been much help.

But I don’t fancy any trips to the ER for anaphylactic shock. And even if the reactions aren’t that bad, I feel so crappy for a couple days, that it’s almost not worth the risk.


45 posted on 12/12/2008 2:30:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: goodnesswins

What’s VLDL? I’ve seen that mentioned.


46 posted on 12/12/2008 2:33:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

RE: VLDL...here’s what Mayo Clinic says about it...I noted what they said about alcohol intake, too....whatever...different docs....HA.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vldl-cholesterol/AN01335/


47 posted on 12/12/2008 3:01:28 PM PST by goodnesswins (CAPITALISM is FUN.........SOCIALISM SUCKS - pass it on.)
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To: metmom

I lowered my bad stuff greatly with flax seed capsules. Didn’t go anything for my tris though


48 posted on 12/12/2008 3:23:58 PM PST by Rannug
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks. My BP is fine, I’m not diabetic.
I’ve had liver function tests and thyroid tests and everything comes back normal. The ONLY thing I have is high LDL. It doesn’t make much sense to have high LDL, high, HDL, low TG, and no other health issues.

That’s what really makes me wonder exactly what kind of risk factors I really have.

And besides, if the cholesterol doesn’t get me, a bus could.


49 posted on 12/12/2008 3:26:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Rannug

I’ll look into that. I’ll see if I can get the flax seed itself and try little bits at a time to see if it bothers me.


50 posted on 12/12/2008 3:28:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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