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Mall of America Moves to Accommodate Minnesota Muslims
mshale.com ^ | 12/13/08 | Mohamed Hassan

Posted on 12/13/2008 9:14:39 AM PST by TornadoAlley3

BLOOMINGTON, Minn. – On the day Muslims around the world began to celebrate Eid al-Adha, Fatuma Mohamed was at the Mall of America (MOA), far away from where she would normally say her prayers.

But she and other Muslims needed to take time from the activities of the mall and find a quiet area to pray as Muslims do during the festival that commemorates Ibrahim's willingness to sacrifice his only son for God.

“I said my prayer right at that corner,” Mohamed said, pointing to the spot.

Another Muslim, Amran Ali, did the same.

“I had to say my prayer at a corner,” Ali said. “I was stared at, but no one bothered me.”

Every year, as Muslims in America are compelled to engage in business, work and shopping during the holidays, many find themselves away from mosques and other places where they can hold prayers without interruption. They are forced to seek privacy in corners and alleyways, places that often subject them to unwanted attention. Some Muslims also worry that their repetitive calls of “Allah akbar!” (God is great!) during prayers could be misconstrued as calls for Jihad.

“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

This year Muslim leaders from the Twin Cities area were able to persuade MOA, the largest enclosed mall in the United States, to set aside a room for prayers.

“I learned quite a bit from my last meeting with the community,” said Douglas Reynolds, MOA’s security director.

But Mohamed and other Muslims did not know there was a prayer room, even though MOA and Muslim volunteers had intended to have eight posters in three languages, (English, Somali and Arabic) to be displayed at all entrances to the mall.

“I didn’t notice any signs,” Mohamed said.

Reynolds said many might have missed the signs because MOA and the Muslim leaders did not advise the community about the prayer room before this week’s observance of Eid al-Adha. The signs also went up too late in the day, Reynolds said.

“It would have been nice to get the message out to the community earlier,” Reynolds said. “The signs were also not available until 4:30 p.m.”

He promised that MOA would “do a better job next time.”

Regardless of the glitch, many Muslims appeared excited that the MOA reserved prayer space for them and promised to continue doing so in the future.

“It is about time,” Jamad Barrow said. “I’m happy to hear that the mall is trying to accommodate and appeal to the Muslim community.”

Sheikh Neelain Muhammad, an imam at the St.Paul-based Da’wa Islamic Center, and five other volunteers from the center were among the many volunteers who were at the mall to make sure that day went on without incidents, especially from teenagers.

Reynolds, the MOA security director, said that community volunteers were very helpful.

“At one point, Sheikh Neelain Muhammad and his team were spotted talking to the youth and telling them to behave … and so, they did.”

The presence of culturally competent volunteers at the mall avoided the law enforcement solution that often leads to the arrest of Muslim youths.

“No one youth that was acting out that didn’t change after we talked with him or her,” Sheikh Muhammad said.

Mahmood Kanyare, one of the community volunteers, said the volunteers reminded the youth about good manners in Islam.

“They were all responsive to our messages and behaved well as a result,” Kanyare said.

The day ended with a positive note for both MOA and the Muslim community. No one was arrested and only few were asked to leave.

Reynolds, the director of security, said he hoped to continue building MOA’s relationship with the Muslim community.


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1 posted on 12/13/2008 9:14:40 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Just as the UK has fallen so shall we! I’m sick!


2 posted on 12/13/2008 9:16:58 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Is it time for my medication, reality is starting to set in.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Al Franken can be the greeter....
3 posted on 12/13/2008 9:18:06 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ronnie raygun

Where is the ACLU on this? Prayer in a public place? My goodness- the ACLU should be screaming bloody murder- oh wait- they only do that about CHRISTIAN prayer in public.


4 posted on 12/13/2008 9:18:55 AM PST by CottShop
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To: TornadoAlley3
Some Muslims also worry that their repetitive calls of “Allah akbar!” (God is great!) during prayers could be misconstrued as calls for Jihad.

Shopping Jihadis... economics over security.

5 posted on 12/13/2008 9:19:29 AM PST by BigFinn (islam IS what Islam DOES.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

Oh PUKE!

6 posted on 12/13/2008 9:19:33 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: TornadoAlley3

7 posted on 12/13/2008 9:19:55 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Christians pray at malls all the time. I’m sure the mall leaders would be willing to set aside another room just for us. YEAH, RIGHT!


8 posted on 12/13/2008 9:21:01 AM PST by Faith
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Mall of America Moves to Accommodate Minnesota Muslims”

I’m surprised there are any muzzies left in Minneapolis...I thought all those “missing” Somali muzzies were back in Somalia training to destroy the great satan.


9 posted on 12/13/2008 9:21:23 AM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: TornadoAlley3
“I had to say my prayer at a corner,” Ali said. “I was stared at, but no one bothered me.”

Could anybody, other than a Moslem, do this in Saudi Arabia? I'll leave the answer to your imagination.

10 posted on 12/13/2008 9:23:10 AM PST by melancholy
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To: TornadoAlley3

>> “Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

I feel the very same way...


11 posted on 12/13/2008 9:23:24 AM PST by max americana
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To: Towed_Jumper

They found them and brought them back... =-(


12 posted on 12/13/2008 9:23:24 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Faith

Christians should call for a prayer room for every one built at every mall, every airport, every crevice. The Fair-prayer Doctrine.


13 posted on 12/13/2008 9:23:51 AM PST by BigFinn (cHANgE! wE HAZ IT BEfORE WE HaZ IT!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

So long as the prayer room is available to all faiths and not just one, there is no problem with this.


14 posted on 12/13/2008 9:24:41 AM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
But she and other Muslims needed to take time from the activities of the mall and find a quiet area to...

...strap on their bomb vests.

15 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:01 AM PST by rickmichaels (WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN OBAMA'S TRUTH SQUADS RUN WILD ON YOU???)
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To: CottShop

The Freedom From Religion atheists are only against public signs of Christianity (we aren’t even talking prayer rooms). All other faiths get a pass.

And a private business can do what the corporation wants to do but this is a strange thing to embrace. How did the muslims in America go about their 5 times daily prayers until now? What has changed? Oh, that’s right we got attacked on 9-11 and now it is wrong to be critical of Islam.


16 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:01 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

I was educated on 9/11, thank you! /sarc


17 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:35 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Bahbah
“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.” What? It is peaceful as long as you submit to them!
18 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:46 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

Everything I needed to know about your “peaceful” religion I learned on 9/11.


19 posted on 12/13/2008 9:26:12 AM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: Grunthor

If it’s a private company, they should be able to do whatever the hell they want. As a country, we should require that our government prohibit individuals from entering it who are so entirely incompatible to the core of our beliefs.


20 posted on 12/13/2008 9:27:25 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: Grunthor
So long as the prayer room is available to all faiths and not just one, there is no problem with this.

I think I remember reading that Muslims don't allow infidels into their mosques. They probably wouldn't be as accepting as you, FRiend.

21 posted on 12/13/2008 9:28:03 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: TornadoAlley3
“Of course, out curiosity people will stare at you but don’t say anything,” said Shuuriye Ali. “I wish they would ask. I would love to educate them about my peaceful religion.”

Oh, it's OK. I live in the Middle East. I know firsthand just how "peaceful" your religion is, Shuuriye.

What I'd like to know is why such a "peaceful" religion has so many loud noises associated with it?

22 posted on 12/13/2008 9:29:10 AM PST by Allegra
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“They probably wouldn’t be as accepting as you, FRiend.”

Well, that’s what makes them muzzies.


23 posted on 12/13/2008 9:29:14 AM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

And wouldn’t MOA be a little upset if all their customers shopped some place else because of their decisions?


24 posted on 12/13/2008 9:30:04 AM PST by RC2
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To: TornadoAlley3

What, no footbaths?

Infidels!


25 posted on 12/13/2008 9:33:05 AM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
They are forced to seek privacy in corners and alleyways, places that often subject them to unwanted attention.

What a joke. Muslims don't want attention.

26 posted on 12/13/2008 9:33:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: TornadoAlley3
Reynolds, the MOA security director, said that community volunteers were very helpful. “At one point, Sheikh Neelain Muhammad and his team were spotted talking to the youth and telling them to behave … and so, they did.” The presence of culturally competent volunteers at the mall avoided the law enforcement solution that often leads to the arrest of Muslim youths.

From this, it appears to be a quid pro quo exchange. The mall provided the prayer space, and in return, the local sheiks kept their "youth" from rioting in the mall.

27 posted on 12/13/2008 9:34:45 AM PST by Tax-chick (If I can't go to Heaven right now, can I just go to Missouri?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Many places have those ‘family’ bathrooms where people can take care of their kids.....

Make it a ‘Family Bathroom & Prayer Kiosk”....
you could put candles on the baby diaper changing shelf./s


28 posted on 12/13/2008 9:39:49 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“The love of money...”


29 posted on 12/13/2008 9:40:03 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll (The easier it is to vote, the more stupid and lazy people will vote.)
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To: ronnie raygun

“Just as the UK has fallen so shall we! I’m sick!”

I doubt this is sign that we have fallen.

Want to see a sign? Go down to your local abortion clinic and see the “Christians” lining up. I would like to hear Christians demanding a quiet spot to pray, but we have different priorities.


30 posted on 12/13/2008 9:42:36 AM PST by smallbiz (Palin 2012)
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To: TornadoAlley3
there is a difference between tolerance and accommodation, I'd shop somewhere else
31 posted on 12/13/2008 9:42:41 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: RC2

I avoid that place like the plague anyway.


32 posted on 12/13/2008 9:42:49 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: TornadoAlley3

you know what I pray to my Jesus any where any time....I don’t need any special place carved out of some mall or any business place....My God hears our prays


33 posted on 12/13/2008 9:43:28 AM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Grunthor
Well, that’s what makes them muzzies.

That's so series!!!!!

34 posted on 12/13/2008 9:45:19 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I am SO tired of these Muzzie idiots! Will somebody please set up a pork B-B-Q next door and drive these idiots away!
35 posted on 12/13/2008 9:51:21 AM PST by WellyP
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To: BigFinn

>“Allah akbar!” (God is great!) during prayers could be misconstrued as calls for Jihad.<

The day will come that one of them goes BOOOOM!


36 posted on 12/13/2008 9:52:07 AM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Let me guess no Nativity scenes allowed because that would be putting a religious symbol in a public place. I’m just saying.


37 posted on 12/13/2008 9:53:25 AM PST by redangus
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To: TornadoAlley3

I wonder how many of the mall’s merchants are selling Christmas gifts a opposed to “holiday” gifts.....


38 posted on 12/13/2008 9:53:48 AM PST by clintonh8r (For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of my country.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Ibrahim's willingness to sacrifice his only son for God.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AND WORONG!

Abraham (falsely called Ibrahim here) had TWO sons during this incident. A bastard named Ismail and his legitimate son Issac. Moslems have twisted it and believe that Ismail was the one offered for sacrifice. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AND WORONG! IT WAS ISSAC, THE LEGITIMATE SON THROUGH SARAH HIS WIFE (not that little hussy of a maid) who was offered in obedience to God. At the last moment God stayed Abraham's hand and supplied the lamb. He always supplies The Lamb and it is That Lamb whose birthday we are celebrating now, God's only son, JESUS.

/sermon

39 posted on 12/13/2008 9:56:13 AM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT~~ The more I git to know some people, the better I laik ma dawg!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
But she and other Muslims needed to take time from the activities of the mall and find a quiet area to pray as Muslims do during the festival that commemorates Ibrahim's willingness to sacrifice his only son for God. If they would admit it was Isaac and not Ismael that Abraham took to sacrifice, and denounce Islam's violence against Jews, then, I might be more sympathetic.
40 posted on 12/13/2008 9:56:44 AM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: CottShop
"Where is the ACLU on this? Prayer in a public place? My goodness- the ACLU should be screaming bloody murder- oh wait- they only do that about CHRISTIAN prayer in public."

If you follow CAIR's campaign against U.S. culture, it seems almost certain they are being directly schooled by the ACLU.

41 posted on 12/13/2008 9:59:37 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: TornadoAlley3
work and shopping during the holidays

I'm sure they were shopping for CHRISTmas gifts.

What if someone trips over one of them praying in the mall, sues the mall and the people that caused the fall. Will disclaimers be posted "No Praying"?

42 posted on 12/13/2008 10:00:10 AM PST by chemicalman (We'll see if it was really all Bush's fault.)
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To: Jemian
not that little hussy of a maid

That "little hussy" was Hagar and it isn't like she had a choice in the matter (Sarah offered her to Abraham) so I'd be careful about calling her vulgar names.

43 posted on 12/13/2008 10:00:42 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

What? All they get is a prayer room? How about a place in the middle of the mall where they can stone teenage girls that are sweet on infidels? If they complain loud enough they could probably get the mall to chip is some nice round baseball size rocks, too.


44 posted on 12/13/2008 10:01:35 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: TornadoAlley3

“All Things Allah Aqbar Clearance! All items on sale now! It’s a blow out! Save up to 72% on virginwear, prayer rugs, suicide vests, and winter burkahs! We offer reduced fall profit in the name of our ridiculous false prophet! Our religion is fake, but our savings are real!”


45 posted on 12/13/2008 10:05:34 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: Jemian
"Abraham (falsely called Ibrahim here) had TWO sons during this incident. A bastard named Ismail and his legitimate son Issac. Moslems have twisted it and believe that Ismail was the one offered for sacrifice. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AND WORONG! IT WAS ISSAC, THE LEGITIMATE SON THROUGH SARAH HIS WIFE (not that little hussy of a maid) who was offered in obedience to God."

Muhammad claimed to be a direct descendant of Ismail, but there is no historical support that Ismail's progeny would have lived in the area of Muhammad's tribe---though the dark and hairy Arab people are likely generally descended from the dark and hairy Ismail, thereby making Muhammad a far distant relative.

Regardless, as you say, Ismail was the illegitimate result of Abraham's impatience and lapse of trust in God's ability to provide as promised.

Islam's claim that as first born Ismail's claim to their father's blessing over the legitimate son Isaac is based completely on the Arab culture of their false prophet and is totally bogus, making Islam built on a completely false foundation.

No surprises there to anyone with any real spiritual discernment.

46 posted on 12/13/2008 10:12:01 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Gone_Postal
My God hears our prays

That's because your God is real, which is a significant difference from the Muslim "god" who was reveled by a false prophet serial killer pedophile. The Muslim "god" sits on the throne of murder and is the master of thieves, if he exists at all.

47 posted on 12/13/2008 10:13:29 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: Yogafist
"What? All they get is a prayer room? How about a place in the middle of the mall where they can stone teenage girls that are sweet on infidels? If they complain loud enough they could probably get the mall to chip is some nice round baseball size rocks, too."

Did you sneak a peek at CAIR's agenda for Obama's second term???

48 posted on 12/13/2008 10:14:34 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Tamar1973; Jemian
Galatians 4:21

Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid , the other by a freewoman.

4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

49 posted on 12/13/2008 10:15:13 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Tamar1973

I am very familiar with the story.


50 posted on 12/13/2008 10:15:59 AM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT~~ The more I git to know some people, the better I laik ma dawg!)
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