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Political Scientist Says Electoral College Lacks What It Need To Elect Obama To White House
PR Web ^ | 12/11/08 | Dr. Mary Maxwell

Posted on 12/14/2008 9:57:46 AM PST by BP2

Marblehead, Mass. (PRWEB) December 11, 2008 -- Dr. Mary Maxwell, political scientist, said today: "Obama's silence about his citizenship is indefensible and unworkable. Next Monday, the 538 members of the Electoral college meet and they are at risk, themselves, of violating state election laws if they participate in a fraud."

"If a presidential candidate's claim that he meets the requirements are later found to be false," Maxwell said,"one or more of the 50 states could bring charges against him. But that would be a terrible thing if it comes after Inauguration Day. It would be better if a state would apply its law stringently as early as possible For example, the Election Commission of Alabama has authority to cite for contempt (http://law.justia.com/alabama/codes/16474/17-15-57.html) any person who refuses to deliver, upon subpoena, relevant items."

Maxwell said: "An Obama spokesman has called the eligibility controversy 'garbage,' and wants to keep pertinent records under seal." "Privacy is of great value," Maxwell acknowledged, "but when one signs the form to become a candidate for elective office, one swears, in most states, that one is eligible."

"For a presidential hopeful that means he has attained age 35, has resided here for 14 years,and is a natural-born citizen of the U.S." Maxwell stated, "If voters want proof of a candidate's eligibility -- and thousands have signed petitions and called Congress (http://rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/) seeking Obama's proof -- it follows that privacy must be sacrificed. How can Electors do their solemn duty of choosing America's executive for the next four years if they are in doubt about his qualification?" she asked.

"I've posted a current case, Keyes v Bowen, at my website (http://www.marymaxwell.us)," said Maxwell. "The plaintiffs are Electors who don't want to vote until they see Obama's documents," she said, "This case is making its way to the Supreme Court, but not in time for Dec.15th." Also, she reported,"there are some are military officers who understandably insist that their Commander in Chief be free of any suspicion of divided loyalties."

"This lays a shockingly heavy burden on Electors' shoulders," Maxwell said. "I believe that Obama's grammar school records, showing his citizenship as 'Indonesian,' are sufficient indication that he has an eligibility problem. So the presumption has to be against him. If Obama feels that is unfair he can simply submit the documents and put an end to the problem, " she said.

"Granted this approach is embarrassing," said Maxwell, "but so what? Don't Immigration officers frequently knock on doors of American residents and say 'Show your passport'?" She observed, "The Constitution protects all congresspersons from arrest on their way to or from their legislative sessions, but no one is immune from the law at other times. That is the core of our great system."

"If we create a cultural habit of exonerating government officials when they do wrong, or look the other way, it will soon be said that rule-of-law no longer works in our society and we need martial law," said Maxwell, "in fact I sniff it in the air now. What nonsense! We have a perfectly workable Constitution. But of course it can't work if the law does not apply to all."

"Failure to deal with Obama's issue is likely to cause an upset on Dec. 15th," said Maxwell. "Since Nov. 4th, the public has been told that the Electors will cast 373 ballots for Obama, and 165 for McCain. Typically, all Electors 'obey' their party but the Constitution does not require them to do so," she noted, "and in a 1992 case, Ray v Blair (http://vlex.com/vid/20012409), the Court ruled that political parties may give direction but they did not say the Elector is thus coerced."

"It is amazing to realize that if Obama drops out, the Electors are not obliged to choose his running mate, Joe Biden, or the next-best from the Democrat's summer convention, Hillary Clinton," Maxwell said. They can even choose someone that ran in a third party, such as Bob Barr or Cynthia McKinney." She remarked, "Indeed they are free to elect a citizen who never campaigned."

"Happily, panic need not occur if no individual gets a majority on Dec. 15th," Maxwell stated. "As usual, the Founding Fathers foresaw that outcome, and arranged for the House of Representatives to choose the president from the three highest on the Elector's list," she said. "and they would vote as states, with each state having one vote. The National Archives website (http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#270) says that would occur on Jan. 8th, 2009."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: BP2

“when one signs the form to become a candidate...”

I’ve mentioned this on previous threads.

He was APPLYING to be a candidate. As such, he is obligated to be able to prove ALL RELEVANT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE POSITION!!!!


21 posted on 12/14/2008 10:18:03 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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To: BP2
Free!! Clickable link!! Everybody Freep This !!!!!!

http://rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/

22 posted on 12/14/2008 10:20:14 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: BP2

“Obama’s silence about his citizenship is indefensible”

Now if only the Supreme Court would say that.


23 posted on 12/14/2008 10:20:26 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: OldEagle

Yeah, people are working the chronology backyards, looking to see who backed Obama when he became a Illinois state senator.

Many of those same people are tied to Blago...


24 posted on 12/14/2008 10:21:27 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Thanks for the post. Dr. Mary Maxwell lays out the information carefully and impartially. It’s a high quality article. She really knows her stuff. I bookmarked it.


25 posted on 12/14/2008 10:22:08 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: BP2

Conservatives are beginning to get a reputation of being sore losers. Could this sore loser reputation be a problem for us in the future?


26 posted on 12/14/2008 10:22:37 AM PST by gocats5
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To: BP2

Bump


27 posted on 12/14/2008 10:22:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: gocats5

Could being spineless be a problem for you when trying to stand up?


28 posted on 12/14/2008 10:24:22 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: BP2

Mary Maxwell home site
http://www.marymaxwell.us/

list of electors from 1 state toward bottom

must be avail. for every state on net


29 posted on 12/14/2008 10:25:56 AM PST by sbark
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To: BP2
Freeride

And the Main Stream Incompetent Media continues there defense of Obama... could we make Obama an "honorary Republican" for a day so they would demand he show proof of his elegibility? Just a thought...

31 posted on 12/14/2008 10:28:40 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; pissant

Although from West Virginia, Hawaii’s process for getting a “Certificate of Delayed Birth” is virtually identical:

http://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/hsc/test/Delayedbirth.Shtml

What is a Delayed Certificate of Birth?
If a birth isn’t registered with Vital Registration within the one year, then a normal certificate may not be filed for that birth. Instead a special type of birth certificate is placed on file. This type of certificate not only shows the facts of birth for the child but also shows the types of evidence presented to Vital Registration to back up the facts of birth. The facts of birth are

The Full Name of the Person at the Time of Birth
Date of birth
Place of Birth (City and State)
Mother’s Full Maiden Name
Mother’s Place of Birth (at least State or country)
Full Name of the Father
Father’s Place of Birth (at least State or country)

Note About the Name: If the name of the person on the birth certificate was established by adoption, legitimation, paternity acknowledgment or court action, the the delayed certificate will show that name (provided that the proper documentation is submitted.).
Note about Fathers: If the mother was not married to the father at the time of the birth, or during the ten months before the birth. In this case the father can only be added if paternity as been determined by legitimation, adoption, or an acknowledgment of paternity (provided that the proper documentation is provided.)

Who Needs to File for a Certificate of Delayed Birth?
Anyone whose birth certificate is not on file in West Virginia AND

The person was born in West Virginia AND
The person has no birth certificate on file in the county of birth AND
The person needs (or wishes) for a birth certificate to be on file for him or her at Vital Registration
Typically, if a child was born in a hospital, there is a birth certificate on file for them at Vital Registration.

And standards were A LOT more lax in Hawaii in the 1960s!


32 posted on 12/14/2008 10:29:46 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: gocats5

Trying to uphold the Constitution is the mark of a sore loser?


33 posted on 12/14/2008 10:30:04 AM PST by TommyTrojan
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To: Baynative

I wouldn’t bet against that, but I have a feeling that even with the most friendly of press, he’ll feel the need to control every jot and tittle.


34 posted on 12/14/2008 10:30:06 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: OldEagle
Absolutely and that is the problem! We don't know Jack about this clown and no one is questioning him,a true travesty of US justice of monumental proportions IMHO.
35 posted on 12/14/2008 10:32:43 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: BP2

I’ll treat Obama as nice as the leftists treated Bush. Obama is a liar. He was born in Kenya. He is a fraud. He will not be a legitimate president until he proves his eligibility. I don’t care who swears him in. Until comes clean, all he can be is a tyrant.


37 posted on 12/14/2008 10:36:04 AM PST by pallis
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To: sbark

must be New Hampshire electors.....problem is they are all “designated by the democratic party”...probably have been promised money to fight any lawsuits and or threatened with worse.....


38 posted on 12/14/2008 10:36:31 AM PST by sbark
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To: BP2
Political scientist from MARBLEHEAD!!!! Some times the jokes just write themselves. LOL
39 posted on 12/14/2008 10:36:36 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: gocats5

Conservatives are beginning to get a reputation of being sore losers. Could this sore loser reputation be a problem for us in the future

It hasn’t seemed to hurt the Democrats at all.


40 posted on 12/14/2008 10:36:41 AM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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